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Other Nazz[edit]

Nazz was the guitarist in Scottish rock bands Lixx and Sons of the Shaking Earth In 2018 the pre- Sons lineup LIXX reformed and are producing new music today.

Name: The or not The…[edit]

2010[edit]

Just heard a a segment on XM where Todd Rundgren is talking about why they broke up and 3 times he refers to the band as The Nazz. That he brought a foriegn influence into The Nazz and so on... so whats the deal with that "mistakenly" part? Is that something from somewhere verifiable?

Did you pay attention to the article? It clearly states that the band is known as "Nazz" on all official recordings and press materials. I thought that settled the issue once and for all? Todd was not the only member of the group. You are beating a dead horse. --70.58.82.115 (talk) 05:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No dead horse beating going on here. As written, the article is (or was—see my rewrite) going out of its way to make an unreasonable, unverifiable, and (seemingly) incorrect claim, namely that it's an error to call the band "the Nazz." No one's disputing that the band's name was usually (or even always) styled "Nazz" in print—on album art, in press materials, etc. The objection is to the use of the word "mistakenly," which seems to be entirely out of place here and a case of insupportable prescriptivism. It's clear that in spoken usage, many people, including but not limited to Todd, referred to the band as "the Nazz." Listen, for instance, to the track called "Nazz Commercials" on the rarities collection Nazz from Philadelphia. At approximately 1:05, a band member (unclear if it's Todd) playing a character called "Tommy Truckdriver" can be heard saying: "You remember last week me and my friends were beating up those long-haired creeps the Nazz." And again at 1:58 (and similarly at 2:17 and 2:34): "Hey, ain't that the Nazz singing and playing over there?" If it was considered incorrect to refer to the band as "the Nazz," why would the band members themselves repeatedly make this mistake in their own radio spots? For the purposes of establishing what the band wanted itself to be known as, radio commercials would seem to be as legitimate a primary source as other promotional materials.

Pointing out that it was always "Nazz" in print seems like a perfectly OK idea, but insisting that calling them "the Nazz" is an error seems both wrongheaded and wrong. Danny oldsen (talk) 19:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After a little thought it occurred to me that the discussion of the definite-article question would seem to naturally belong not in the article's intro but in the "Origin of the band's name" section below, so I've moved it there. Danny oldsen (talk) 20:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2019[edit]

Please don't remove factually accurate information that has been backed up with EVIDENCE, properly sourced and documented. The group's official name has always been NAZZ. Those who try to ignore the facts are simply biased and misinformed.

As clearly stated in the article the band's official name is "NAZZ". This is backed up not only on RECORDS, but also on the group's OFFICIAL PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS and in the Wikipedia article, etc. Why there are some folks here that insist the group was ONLY KNOWN "The Nazz" is just bizarre because it is false. 97.113.57.79 (talk) 04:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • @97.113.57.79: Your recent edits, which imply that "Nazz" is the official name and "the Nazz" is only used by fans is demonstrably false. The article quotes Todd Rundgren directly; he states in no uncertain terms that the name of the band was "the Nazz", and that's how they're almost always referred to. Todd Myers, author of the "definitive" biography A Wizard, a True Star, also uses a definite article when invoking the band. "Nazz" and "the Nazz" are equally valid. Your formatting is also redundant, we already know that they're not credited with the definite article since the "the" is not bolded. See: Ramones, Buzzcocks, and WP:FIRSTSENTENCE Ilovetopaint (talk) 01:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry again but you are just simply wrong. The official name of the band is and has always been NAZZ. It is incorrect to delete this from the article. You have continually ignored the fact that this is the name on all PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS issued by the band and their management. The group's RECORDS is not the only place where the official name has been used regularly. Members of the band and fans can call them anything they want but other forms of the name are NOT OFFICIAL.

ILOVETOPAINT has not provided any evidence to back up the position that any form of the name is official. I guess evidence doesn't mean much if someone else happens to disagree.

Go back and check the history of this article. It was correctly written for many years. It only changed when ILOVETOPAINT inserted his clearly biased opinions and constantly removed correct information. By CONSENSUS the article was previously correct as written. Constantly deleting accurate information without regard to truth or consensus is what WIKIPEDIA calls VANDALISM.97.113.57.79 (talk) 04:03, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is no question that "Nazz" is how they're credited on the records, just like the Ramones and the Buzzcocks are simply credited as "Ramones" and "Buzzcocks". But we still refer to those bands as "the Ramones" and "the Buzzcocks".
Todd Rundgren: "We were formed in the late sixties, so most every band was the something. It was always 'the This' or 'the That,' so we were looking for some the thing to be something kind of simple and iconographic, I guess." [1]
WP:THE: "[...] some bands – such as Eurythmics, Eagles, Pixies and Odds – do not have the in their names, even though they may sometimes (or even often) be referred to as "the (Name)" in everyday speech. In all cases, default to the form of the name that is actually used by the band themselves"
Ilovetopaint (talk) 01:09, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But we still refer to those bands as "the Ramones" and "the Buzzcocks".

I call Nazz "Nazz" because that is their name. When you use the word WE you are referring to yourself, you are not referring to the way others use the name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.113.57.79 (talk) 17:06, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Case closed - the name is NAZZ[edit]

OK folks this is the final word on the name issue. In 2019 two of the remaining members of Nazz stated in an an interview that the correct name of the group was and always has been NAZZ with no article. Of the three living members only Rundgren callsx the band The Nazz. For proof here is a link to the full Youtube video interview with Thom Mooney and Robert "Stewkey" Antoni. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b23JwnL4-7c

"Open My Eyes" on Nuggets[edit]

As far as I can tell, "Open My Eyes" wasn't the lead track on Nuggets, as we had it. According to the Nuggets article, it was track 5 on side 4; an image search for the album cover backs this up, although admittedly the only back-cover image I found was for the 1976 Sire reissue, not the original on Elektra. (It definitely wasn't the lead track on the Rhino single-LP reissue from the 80s—there it was side 2, track 5.) So I've removed this claim from the article; if someone has a source establishing that there was some version of Nuggets that led off with "Open My Eyes," please modify as appropriate. Danny oldsen (talk) 19:34, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a missing song here....by James Gillespie In "Tucson Arizona, about May of 72, I came across a 45 single that was by the band 'The Nazz' and the cut, forgot the other sides title, was 'Under the Ice'. It is not mentioned anywhere in the article. The song was ultra heavy for the time. AND the article failed to mention Todd's other big early hit on the same release as Hello, Its Me and that was " I See the Light (in your eyes) and there is his biggest hit, played on every cruse ship commercial, "(I just wanna )Bang the Drum All Day". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.202.135 (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edit[edit]

I reworked this sentence - "It is unlikely that this did not at least subliminally influence the adoption of the name Nazz, even if the other citations are valid." - to reflect the original writer's intent. I am making the assumption that the intent was that it WAS possible that the construction company may have been a subliminal influence on the band's name choice. If this is in error, please feel free to revert.THX1136 (talk) 21:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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