Talk:Moyasimon: Tales of Agriculture

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Episode Summaries[edit]

Hm, anyone wanna write episode summeries?--Jopojelly 04:12, 11 November 2007 (UTC)jopojelly[reply]

Subtitle[edit]

"Tales of Agriculture" isn't actually a translation of "Moyashimon", it's just a subtitle or tagline for the series. So really the article should be called Moyashimon I think. I don't know for sure what Moyashimon means (if anything), but it's been suggested that it could mean "yeast culture", or be the name of Sawaki's family's yeast-making business. Samatarou (talk) 19:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I was wondering about that too, but in Anime News Network page, it is listed as Tales of Agriculture. Perhaps, it is planned to be released in U.S (either in manga or anime) and that might be the chosen english title.Stevefis (talk) 03:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
About the title "Moyashimon (もやしもん)" - Yes, it has its (vague) meanings and I think I understand them to some degree, but I guess it's extremely difficult to "translate"; to say the least, it's more than translating "Good Will Hunting" (the title of the movie, of course) into other languages without losing its meanings. - Well, I'll try anyway. It's basically "moyashi-mon" and "moyashi" usually means "bean sprout" but it's originally a nominalized form of the verb "moyasu(萌やす)" (make something shoot/bud/grow/etc.) and the usuage here is the original one, I guess. - Or is it an adnominal dative, not really a noun? By the way, the jargon "moé" also is originated from this word. And, the "mon" is an informal form of "mono" (者 or 物) which means "thing" or "one" or maybe similar to the English suffix "-er". So, I guess the title vaguely refers to the microbes surrounding Sawaki and us. 210.151.207.174 (talk) 01:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Moyasi(もやし)" is the jargon of a mold starter in Japanese brewing industry. Because the mold hypha of the aspergillus is similar in appearance to bean sprouts (Incidentally ,that called "moyasi" in Japanese,too) . In addition, "tane-kouji-ya(種麹屋)" that managed by Sawaki's parents is also called the alias "moyasi-ya(もやし屋)". Although Masayuki Ishikawa had not declared the origin of "Moyasimon", he said that it was related to "moyasi-ya".[1]--220.15.32.84 (talk) 13:08, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Tales of Agriculture" is, as Samatarou said, the original sub-title (or a part of the title) of Moyashimon; it's like "Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb" or "Stardust Memory" (Gundam 0083 you know) and I think I can safely conclude it is simply wrong as the title of this article now. Well, as for the ANN page, I guess they are not free from errors, as well as editors of Wikipedia. Anyway, I'm going to move this page. Darksider (talk) 23:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kei[edit]

Why does the character description mention absolutely nothing about the fact that he is a crossdresser? Question2 (talk) 03:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a high-traffic page. You can add this yourself, you know. TangentCube, Dialogues 03:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And probably you need to add the spoiler tag when you do it. 218.227.184.204 (talk) 05:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:SPOILER, spoiler tags are not needed anymore in clearly marked sections of an article where a reader is bound to find spoilers, such as in a characters list; as such, the {{spoiler}} template was deleted and therefore isn't being used in any articles.-- 06:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's because she isn't a cross-dresser, but a transsexual. Phildog (talk) 23:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Even if that's true, that doesn't make him any less male biologically.-- 02:35, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And it isn't true; certainly not supported at all by the text of the manga through volume six. Doceirias (talk) 05:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen no evidence that Kei is anything other than male, even though he seems to be more comfortable dressing and acting like a girl. Being feminine and gay doesn't make the term 'her' more accurate than 'him'. Samatarou (talk) 01:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gender Identity versus Sexual Classification is not a topic discussed explicitly in the Manga or the Anime. It should not be discussed here either. While it is of some minor importance to the plot, and while Gender is different and separate from Sex, and while there might be confusion over his "sexual preferences," one should realize that all such labels are essentially a waste of time in anything other than an individually-oriented psychological discussion with one's very own psychologist. Finally, Kei and Todayasu were both completely fine with whatever was going on there, so who cares? (Yeah I know, the debate is a year old.) -- MilquetoastCJW AKA 24.207.133.185 (talk) 14:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

second season?[edit]

Has there been any news of a second season? or that one season is all there will be? 59.167.86.82 (talk) 01:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's also a 3 episode OVA called Moyashimon Deluxe. CFLeon (talk) 09:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moyashimon Chapters[edit]

I've created List of Moyashimon chapters and added a link to it on this page. The spot for the US release date is mostly wishful thinking.Grapeofdeath (talk) 22:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mushishi[edit]

Would it be noteworthy to mention that Moyashimon is extremely similar to Mushishi? Herorev (talk) 03:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the similarity, but even if there was one, it would be original research. It would have to be sourced to a review in the reception section, and even then, I'd recommend sticking to quotes that are talking about Moyashimon specifically. Doceirias (talk) 03:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's easy to find people comparing Moyashimon and Mushishi. Although I don't think a few random comments scattered across the internet will make a very good source. Herorev (talk) 01:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fansites are not acceptable sources, no. Doceirias (talk) 01:54, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Review(s)[edit]

Mania.com Drama stream: Ep 01 Ep 02 Ep 03 Ep 04 Ep 05 Ep 06 Ep 07 Ep 08 Ep 09 Ep 10 Ep 11 --KrebMarkt 16:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mania.com: Manga vol. 2

ANN: Right turn only vol. 2 Shelf Life drama stream Ep 1-2

ANN summer 2010 previews: 1 2 3 4

Others: 365 Days of manga CWR vol. 2

US Manga Release Info out of date[edit]

DelRey has released volume 2 in the US and changed the release date for volume 3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.89.215.42 (talk) 16:20, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moyasimon or Moyashimon[edit]

Why must the article be called Moyasimon instead of Moyashimon? Can't we just use Moyashimon instead? Alphapeta (talk) 16:26, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[2] Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 05:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was not moved.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:01, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Moyasimon: Tales of AgricultureMoyashimon: Tales of Agriculture — I was gonna move this to help the newbie, but here's something peculiar: The book spells "S", the TV shows apparently spells "SH". Now what? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 06:02, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Going by WP:MOS-ANIME#Article names and disambiguation: If there are multiple official titles, use the one that is best known and that has contributed most to the work's becoming known in the broader English-speaking world. I don't know which spelling is more notable, but generally we go by the title of the original media, in this case Moyasimon, as this is the official spelling for the English-translated version.-- 07:36, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose unless the page is badly out of date the anime was never released in any English speaking country. Assuming that is accurate this would mean Moyashimon has never been used in any English release so it is highly unlikely that it is better know to an English speaking audience that Moyasimon.--76.66.189.59 (talk) 22:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requesting Move 2![edit]

Moyasimon: Tales of AgricultureMoyashimon: Tales of Agriculture
It's time to move the page, folks. Moyasimon is used on two volumes of the manga. Moyashimon is used on the drama released by FUNimation, and for the second season from Crunchyroll. If you google, "Moyasimon" almosy every result is talking specifically about Del Rey's manga release; while googling "Moyashimon" gives you a broader search.

As noted above from WP:MOS-ANIME#Article names and disambiguation: If there are multiple official titles, use the one that is best known and that has contributed most to the work's becoming known in the broader English-speaking world. These two series are what have contributed most to the series becoming known in the English speaking world, not Del Rey's two volumes of manga. XScar (talk) 17:17, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Character structure discussion[edit]

I suggest to put the "voiced by" and "played by" in prose form. This isn't a requirement for B3 but I believe it's more organized and modern that way. (Characters of the Final Fantasy XIII series, Characters of Smallville). Meanwhile, the microbs section is why I'm holding back on B3. Are they like pokemon, can be summed up in volume or episode summaries? They don't really seem significant right now. I don't have an idea fix in mind either. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 00:41, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The microbes is similar to Pokemon as in new microbes are introduced every chapter/episode and only last for one episode. However Aspergillus oryzae is like Pikachu in Pokemon, in that it shows up in pretty much every episode to introduce other microbes. Extremepro (talk) 01:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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