Talk:More Than Words

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Not romantic[edit]

This song is not "romantic" at all. The guy is pressuring his girlfriend to sleep with him.

Maybe you're in that habit. It's a somewhat desultory musical composition with words made to fit. Both your take and the gist of the article itself can only be classified as puerile or 'tweenage'.
Interesting interpretations here, but not really backed up by the song. "What would you do/if my heart was torn in two?/More than words to show you feel/that your love for me is real/What would you say/if I took those words away?/Then you couldn't make things new/just by saying 'I love you'". It's clear the singer believes his lover's repeated "I love you" is just a phrase, and not sincere. He does want something more, but that's not exactly "pressuring" for anything. (As far as the song goes, the lovers could already easily be physically involved, but there's no real love on one side.)
Exactly why I'm doing song interpretations on Wikipedia talk pages at 4 AM when I should be working on an overdue project is beyond me, but there you go. JRM · Talk 01:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Our unknown friend above has a point, though. Not only do the first lines spell it out: "Saying 'I love you' is not the words I want to hear from you. It's not that I want you not to say, but if you only knew how easy it would be to show me how you feel. More than words is all you have to do to make it real." He may indeed love her, or think he does, but all he wants right now is sex. The issue of pressuring is arguable, but he's certainly trying to talk her into it. Listen to the concept album this song was released on. The 1st-person character is a misogynist and, at this point in the album, all he wants is laid. The beauty of the music misleads the message of the song in a way similar to The Police's Every Breath You Take. wbm 13:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, though it could be seen (and seems to be most widely interpreted) as a plea for emotional intimacy. Anyway, at the risk of being OR, I put a line about the disagreement in the main text. Unfortunately, it would take a bit of sleuthing to properly source this, since the song predates the establishment of reliable sources for popular culture on the Internet.... Calbaer 04:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not a power ballad[edit]

I would like to argue this song's classification as a power ballad. According to the definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_ballad#Format), it is a far cry from being one, and I would argue that, even though Extreme is classified as a metal band, any mellow song performed by them (or any metal band) does not automatically make it a 'power ballad'. As the link above indicates, a power ballad has a distinct instrumental arrangement, and More Than Words does not resemble one. wbm 14:12, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I agree with the above comment, it certainly isn't a power ballad.

Also, this paragraph (which I've removed) is mind-boggling drivel:

"The song itself is a plea for intimacy. Given its context as a song on Pornograffitti, a concept album about a decadent and corrupt society, it could be interpreted as a cynical plea for physical intimacy, though most listeners interpret it as an earnest plea for emotional intimacy." Palefire 00:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about replacing it with something that addresses the discussion on the top of the page? I find it mind-boggling that people are so paranoid to actually state what a song is about for fear of seeming WP:OR. Thank goodness some articles about songs (e.g., The One I Love (song)) don't have this problem (although I wouldn't call something "a parody" just because it has irony ... Gotta fix that ...). Calbaer 01:49, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed that it's mind boggling drivel. Can't there be any prerequisites for publishing here? Perhaps if it was an in depth study of Sesame Street characters - but then again not even that. But instead of merely calling it 'mind boggling drivel' - why not edit it or remove it. It's pure rubbish and all are agreed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.221.97.3 (talk) 20:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, you very often can't "state what a song is about", they're often so wide open to different interpretations. I mean, obviously some of the other tracks on this album have an obvious (and quite silly in my opinion) message, but this is just a generic romantic song. You don't seem to grasp the kind of state an artist is in when he or she is writing this kind of pop ballad - they've got a nice tune in their head, and they pick the right-sounding words to carry the tune. I suspect the meaning is actually very thin - but as with other great pop songs, the lyrics give a good illusion of being meaningful, which lets people pin their own interpretations onto the words. Palefire 05:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This song is definitely not a power ballad.--Folksong 05:04, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to know who put this song on there as a post-grunge song.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.81.243.250 (talk) 03:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is a power ballad, not a hard rock or rock song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.213.47.133 (talk) 19:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another cover version[edit]

There's a version by an acapella group called 'AC Rock' from an album called 'UR what UR'. Good version IMO, but I guess this is one of the most commonly done acapella songs ever. Perhaps that could be emphasised more in the article too (if it is indeed widespreadly the case). 58.107.201.208 15:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC) Andrew[reply]

this is the worst subject and discussion. i was just proving a point and ended up here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblechaser33 (talk • contribs) 13:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider adding:

"The 2017 science parody titled More than Birds, describing birds as modern dinosaurs. By Tim Blais, performing under the name A Capella Science."

FYI: Other Wikipedia references to Tim Blais and A Capella Science include:

— SoSaysSunny (talk) 02:59, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

soft rock[edit]

the song should be classified as soft rock —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feedmyeyes (talk • contribs) 19:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Clapton version?[edit]

There seems to be a myth that Eric Clapton performed this song, with recordings of Extreme attributed to him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.234.6.177 (talk) 04:13, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Adding the genre "glam metal" to this song[edit]

hey all,

Just wanted to know if I could add the genre "glam metal" to this song. Explicitly stated as being a part of this genre at this source: [music.mxdwn.com/2019/06/21/news/watch-marissa-nadler-and-stephen-brodsky-put-a-unique-spin-on-extremes-more-than-words-live/amp/]music.mxdwn.com/2019/06/21/news/watch-marissa-nadler-and-stephen-brodsky-put-a-unique-spin-on-extremes-more-than-words-live/amp/

Thanks! AgentKozak (talk) 17:30, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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