Talk:Mark of the Christian

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Reads Like a Sermon[edit]

User:Anthony.bradbury - can you give me some specifics please so that I may correct the article so that it can stay in Wikipedia. I look forward to your suggestions, comments, and/or questions :-) --Awinger48 22:22, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that as an issue. It could use more material about the book and more citations to the secondary literature upon the text. I deprodded while coming along on prod patrol. Maybe their are issues with tone, but I don't see them. GRBerry 00:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GRBerry Thank you Sir. Your suggestions are much appreciated, and if you want to participate in the editing (read your User page), you are most welcome :-) --Awinger48 11:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflates Two Different Love Commands[edit]

Thanks for all who have contributed to this article. As Schaeffer's final new disciple at Swiss L'Abri before he died, I carry on his development of his "final apologetic." The specific Mark of the Christian is purely intra-ecclesial love within the church for other Christians. That is Schaeffer's focus in this book. He mentions love to all humans as a concession to show that love is not restricted only within the Church, but that does not change the topic of love within the Church (the "mark" of the Christian).

There is more than one love command (cf., e.g., Augustine's ordo amoris, the ordering of different loves). C. S. Lewis points out the problems caused by disordered loves. Jesus taught some loves as more important than others. And the title and main topic of Schaeffer's book is the one love command dealing particularly with that of Christians for one another. Thus it is a categorical confusion to say, as does the article, that this mark-of-the-Christian love deals with those outside the Church.

Schaeffer's book observes this distinction, and this article inaccurately presents otherwise. "So, when Jesus gives the special command to love our Christian brothers ["The Mark of the Christian"], it does not negate the other command. The two are not antithetical. We are not to choose between loving all men as ourselves and loving the Christian in a special way. The two commands reinforce each other" (http://www.ccel.us/schaeffer.html).

I suggest our revising the text of the 1st line of the 3rd paragraph in order to preserve Schaeffer's nuance between the specially intra-ecclesial love that is the topic of the book and any other loves that he must mention in order to prevent accusations that he is trying to limit love. Perhaps something like ". . . that, while this particular category of love is just for other Christians alone, Christians are also to love all men as well." Olorin3k (talk) 13:59, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]