Talk:Marie Besnard

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M. BESNARD was judged and the jury said she wasn't guilty... How can you write: "M. BESNARD was a serial poisoner".....

The lines of the article are their author's personal opinion about Marie Besnard, not an encyclopedic article. So, if you understand French, please go to http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Besnard Denis.Reboul

These links have been removed from the article for not being neutral until proved otherwise :

Please refer to French article to get more information. Starus

I agree with the previous poster. This is one of the most delusional articles I've ever read on Wikipedia. Marie Besnard was acquitted, as there never was any proof that those people had been poisoned. She was the victime of people's jealousy and of rumor mongerers.

I'll edit this article when I have the time. --Avari 16:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article appears to be biased in tone, contains errors and presents unverifiable opinion as fact. Marie Besnard's verdict was the equivalent of the scottish "not proven", ie insufficient evidence to convict, which should not be construed as being the same as either "innocent" or "guilty". She was accused of killing twelve people, not thirteen. The author cannot know that Marie Besnard "felt herself to be invincible". The French Wikipedia entry, linked above, is much better. ÷

This article needs to be completely rewritten - and posted under a different heading. The only evidence against Marie Besnard, apart from vicious gossip, was the presence of arsenic in the corpses. It turned out, at the retrial, that the owner of the garden uphill from the cemetery had been using arsenic as a pesticide... so the whole cemetery was polluted. Faced with this evidence, the court had no choice but to declare that she was not guilty. Listing Marie Besnard as a poisoner only perpetuates a disgraceful judicial error.

It's a pity that the article does not mention Mme Besnard's autobiography, published in French and in English, and reviewed by The Trial of Marie Besnard, Told by Herself by Denise Folliot, (review by H.A. Hammelmann), The Modern Law Review, vol. 28, no. 1 (Jan. 1965), pp. 132-133. http://www.scribd.com/doc/25328834/The-Trial-of-Marie-Besnard. These Wikipedia articles, and perhaps the talk page, ought not to take the arguments of counsel, and even less the drama of the two motion pictures, as fact. And to say that "the court had no choice but to decloare that she was not guilty" reflects a lack of understanding of civil-law penal procedure. The law review article, while brief, stands on its own as a measured discussion in a juridical, and hence one hopes unbiased, context. Andygx (talk) 09:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I rewrote the article, trying to remove NPOV content, sourcing, etc. I also removed tags. If you still feel it's NPOV, or not sourced well, please add. Zelmerszoetrop 12:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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