Talk:Marc Bell (entrepreneur)

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notes[edit]

There was previously COI editing by the subject of this article, see here.
There was previously an article on this subject, which was deleted by Jimfbleak
this article sprang into existence perfectly formed by an editor with no prior edits. Looks like paid editing to me. I have listed it at COIN to see what others say. 01:02, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

sources[edit]

going through sources...

therichest.org/therichest.com[edit]

per here and here this is not a reliable source, especially not for a BLP. removed it. Jytdog (talk) 01:07, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

bio posted in website advertising event at Lynn University[edit]

This is clearly something the university got from Bell; is a website advertising an event. This is not a WP:RS for biographical information for a BLP. Removing this as a source. Jytdog (talk) 01:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

fandango[edit]

used a source about movie production. Very unclear if this is reliable, and movie listings in it actually gave no role to Bell. removed it. Jytdog (talk) 01:14, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

review status[edit]

reviewed all sources and took out bad ones. got through globix.

from friendfinder on down needs review. his career running porn sites is dramatically underplayed. typical COI-driven bullshit. i'll be back later. COI tag needs to stay until the article is fully reviewed. Jytdog (talk) 02:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Jytdog, I just logged in and saw messages about the article I was doing for Marc Bell. I saw the conflict notice, I am an intern for Marc Bell Capital... I was wanting to put up something for Marc Bell Capital, but it didn't have one for me to link to and I found a lot of news to work with for an insert.

I have been IP editing since college, but this is my first experience making an article from scratch.. and look how that went....... I definitely understand that Wikipedia encourages community-developed articles and I welcome your help to fix the issues with this article. You can cut down the information that you dont think is relevant. I saw it was deleted before, is that an issue too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaxHall (talk • contribs) 01:43, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good to hear from you. Did you read WP:COI and do you understand that you violated the Terms of Use and the COI guideline when you created this article? Jytdog (talk) 01:51, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

COI tag[edit]

I think this has been addressed by now with the amount of edits since the creation. Any thoughts?--LedgerTom (talk) 22:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would be more comfortable if someone (or me) did a search for sources to see if there is negative stuff that is still left out of here. The framework was laid by a paid editor who was here to promote Bell. If that is done I would be OK with removing the tag - what is here is OK. The question is what is not here. Jytdog (talk) 23:52, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I sort of agree but to say an entry has to have X amount negative is really not what it is all about. A simple Google search should reveal all his crimes and misgivings.--LedgerTom (talk) 17:33, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As an example one of the conflicted editors completely removed his associations with porn. Completely. Yes spending some time on a google search would be fine. It is not about slathering the guy with dirt it is about making sure nothing that should have WEIGHT is omitted. Jytdog (talk) 20:43, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Completely agree. Thanks for clearing that up for me.--LedgerTom (talk) 01:41, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

IMO this still very much reads like a paid editing article. Mvolz (talk) 02:40, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life[edit]

User:Mvolz please explain how content about his marital status has anything to do with this person's public life, and why you believe it is encyclopedic and not a violation of WP:BLP and WP:NOTGOSSIP. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 02:43, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Jytdog It is basic biographical information. And a matter of public record. It's pretty much part of *anyone's* biography. Please explain why you think it doesn't have anything to do with this person's public life? I'm really having trouble understand why this would be controversial. Mvolz (talk) 02:53, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree. I find dragging family members into people's bios to be tawdry; you need to have some reason why it is relevant to their public life. They are notable for their business activities. So how is his marital status relevant to that? Jytdog (talk) 02:55, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]