Talk:Mandy Patinkin

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Fired from Criminal Minds[edit]

You might want to rework the section on him "quiting" Criminal Minds over "creative differences". The fact is that he never voiced any of that to anyone at the show. There are many articles about him just suddenly not showing up for work and not telling anyone why for a week or more. In fact there are quotes from at least one co-worker, who said he (Mandy Patinkin) would see them back at work when the show started up again for the 3rd season. So it is not so clear that the guy planned to do this. He certainly never mentioned to any of his bosses that he would not be back, per quotes from them.
New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/19/arts/television/19mind.html
Chicago Tribune
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2007/07/mandy-patinkin-.html
Television Critics Association Tour
http://www.jackmyers.com/commentary/ed-martin-watercooler/8621347.html
99.190.71.126 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

George(s) Seurat[edit]

He plays Georges Seurat in Sunday in the Park with George. Hope it was ok that I fixed it.

Hebrew[edit]

That Hebrew doesn't read "Mandy Patinkin." Pretty sure it says "Minchas Mendel." Mandy would be a pretty rational nickname for Mendel, but this should be clarified.

PR[edit]

This article reads like his PR agent wrote it.

I agree. I feel like part of his image is that he is difficult to work with. About his time on Chicago Hope he even says “I struggled with letting in other people’s opinions,” he said. “During ‘Chicago Hope,’ I never let directors talk to me, because I was so spoiled. I started off with people like Milos Forman, Sidney Lumet, James Lapine, unbelievably gifted people. So there I was saying, ‘Don’t talk to me, I don’t want your opinion.’ I behaved abominably. I don’t care if my work was good or if I got an award for it. I’m not proud of how I was then, and it pained me.” [1] But to read this he's never been anything but a consummate professional. It reflects a fawning "speak no eveil" adoration that the man doesn't even have for himself. Gripdamage (talk) 19:49, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/25/magazine/mandy-patinkin-i-behaved-abominably.html

Buffy[edit]

I don't know if it's worth noting, but in an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (7x08, Sleeper), the character Xander is awoken early in the morning and says, "OK, OK, I'm coming. I'm up. It's 4:30 in the morning. Sweet Mamaloshen. (through door) Who is it?" This the only time I've heard of it. --Gero 19:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Relation to Sheldon[edit]

Is Mandy any relation to Sheldon Patinkin of Second City fame?--Twintone 17:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia[edit]

What happened to the trivia section? It seems it was sneakily deleted by a user named Tell-Tale Ghost with no explanation whatsoever. Is there a reason for this? If not, someone should put it back.

Likely as per WP:TRIVIA. Sigz (talk) 04:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but the trivia is not allowed to be deleted untill all trivia facts are placed in other appropriate sections. A fact that anti-trivia vandals ignore.--86.87.28.191 (talk) 22:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why, but I always thought he was Irish!! Mylittlezach (talk) 04:29, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Singing Voice?[edit]

The lead-in says refers to him as a "renowned tenor". Personally I find his singing voice grating, lacking in power and generally terrible -- are there any references for "renowned"? --ukexpat 20:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

webster's equates "renowned" with "fame" -- having nearly nothing whatever to do with a voice being grating, powerless, or terrible; and tenor can be an objective measurement. Fecklessthug 01:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Which version of Webster's? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/renowned has 'widely acclaimed and highly honored : celebrated' - which is much closer to the definition I have in my mind. I don't think anyone would call Hitler renowned, but he's definitely famous. Not that I'm equating Mandy Patinkin with Hitler, but I'd still like to see some evidence that he's held in high regard, as a tenor. --Oolong (talk) 13:01, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heritage[edit]

What region of Europe did his ancestors come from? Badagnani (talk) 06:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name question[edit]

It's very nice looking, but it doesn't seem proper to give the Hebrew spelling when the correct spelling of Mandy Patinkin's name in English is available, (as he has always been a American) not to mention the phonetic spelling of his name as well. It may sound nit-picky, but honestly, I think the Hebrew version should go on the Hebrew version Wikipedia, unless someone can provide a reference that he himself uses it commonly or some other reason.--leahtwosaints (talk) 22:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it was removed Dec 2009, but... It is not, in this case, just what the equivalent of his name would be in Hebrew. Here, the Hebrew name is his name just as much as his American name. For religious Jews, they are often given two sets of names, one is used in general (for the diaspora) public, while the other is used among family, neighbors, and religious life. When such a person is signing legal contracts within the public, the diaspora name is used, but for contracts within the Jewish community, it is often expected that the Hebrew name is used.
This dual name setup is similar (but a very insufficient comparison) to John Wayne; to the public he was John Wayne, but in reality his name was Marion Mitchell Morison. A better comparison is Esther in the biblical book of Esther. Esther was her diaspora name, while her Hebrew name was Hadassah. The closest there is to this in English speaking non-Jewish names is first name (so-called "christian" name) and middle-name, but it doesn't work the same. Bob Dylan (among many) is another celebrity who also has a Hebrew name (Shabtai Zisel ben Avraham). In his case, his Hebrew name has no apparent relationship to his birth name (Robert Allen Zimmerman).
Within Judaism, the Hebrew name is consider just as much of a person's name (some would argue that it is more so) as any part of a person's diaspora name. So, here, this isn't a "nicety", it is actually a part of his entire name.
In my opinion, we should bring the Hebrew name back. If not in the lede, then in the "Early Life" section (this is where many Wiki articles include it) particularly the first line of that section. A suggested change to the first line of the Early Life section would be to:
"Mandel Bruce Patinkin (Hebrew name Menachem Mendel) was born in Chicago, Illinois [...]" — and so on
— al-Shimoni (talk) 12:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense in Personal Section[edit]

In the Personal Section it says "he is noot from oakland". I assume this is nonsense. Could someone delete it?Grantsky (talk)

Che in Evita[edit]

David Essex originated the role of Che in Evita. Patinkin played this role on Broadway , he didn't originate it so I've deleted that part of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arfon-Illtyd (talk • contribs) 15:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chicago Hope[edit]

What type of psychiatric disorder did his Chicago Hope character, Dr. Jeffrey Geiger suffer from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.9.154.1 (talk) 04:09, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kenwood High School[edit]

The name of the high school, at the time when Patinkin attended, was Kenwood High School, not Kenwood Academy. The "Academy" name came much later, early 80s being my guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomaso (talk • contribs) 19:49, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Homeland (TV series) - Saul Berenson[edit]

see imdb
2011 Homeland (TV series)
Saul Berenson
Ronbarak (talk) 12:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New images[edit]

I have recent (1/13/12) images of the subject, now cleanshaven. Would it be a good idea to upload them? Bearian (talk) 17:52, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done, without objection. Bearian (talk) 20:00, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possible reference[edit]

I moved this from the article. It was put it in basically as just an external link. Wasn't necessary. Could possibly be used to add more info to article. Too many articles have become just collection of news/interview links already.

Article about Patinkin in Israel National News 5/22/2012: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11683

Thank you. -- JoannaSerah (talk) 20:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

'Best known for his work in musical theatre'[edit]

Are we sure about this? Here I thought he was best known for his work in The Princess Bride. Maybe it depends where in the world you are? I'm in Britain, and I only know he's done musical theatre because I looked him up on Wikipedia. When I've watched other things with him in, with other people, there's often a moment when the penny drops and they go 'Oh! It's him out of The Princess Bride!' --Oolong (talk) 13:06, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Performance in Personal Life[edit]

In the first paragraph of Personal Life there's a mention of his son Gideon joining him in a performance of Dress Casual--which isn't mentioned in the Career section. Is this the correct placement of this tidbit, or maybe should there be at least a comment about Dress Casual in the chronological spot in Mandy's performances as well?

2dlogans (talk) 12:07, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment[edit]

Meets criteria for narrative, tone, refs, coverage = B, EBY (talk) 18:11, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Running For Prime Minister of Israel[edit]

Mandy Patinkin announced last night on The Colbert Report that he wants to run for Prime Minister of Israel after the fourth season of Homeland. This announcement should either should be added to his "career" section or a new category added.

-Ben — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.34.120 (talk) 23:57, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the header at the moment, which I think is fitting until there is more information to be added about it. Human.v2.0 (talk) 11:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I did not see this interview, but it sounds like he was joking: first, he's a 61 year old who doesn't live of Israel, second, people can't just "run" for prime minister in parliamentary systems like you can "run" for governor of a state in the U.S., and third, he said it on the Colbert Report, which is a spoof show. Perhaps this should be deleted, or at least taken out of the lede, until there is a more credible news story. Has Patinkin said it since, to Meet the Press, or the New York Times? Has he said it anywhere other than a joke TV show?Purplethree (talk) 22:25, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm removing this sentence about running for Prime Minister of Israel because it seems like a joke (spoken on Comedy Central) rather than a real announcement.Purplethree (talk) 14:45, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Grammy nomination missing[edit]

I do not see any mention of the Grammy nomination Mandy Patinkin received in 1999 for Best Spoken Word Album for The Diaries Of Adam And Eve: Translated By Mark Twain (Album). Searching "mandy patinkin" on the Grammy website brings up a link to a page documenting this nomination. I would think this could be added to the Awards and nominations section. OKrescuer (talk) 02:20, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In general doesn't seem to be kept very up to date... I came looking for something about his new portrayal of Ben Franklin... Shanen (talk) 01:10, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ancestry[edit]

To add to article: according to the episode of Finding Your Roots tracing Patinkin's heritage, his maternal ancestry traces to Pruzhany, Belarus (as well as the nearby shtetl of Drahichyn). Source 173.88.246.138 (talk) 01:53, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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