Talk:Mabel Barltrop

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 02:00, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

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Olivia (Mabel) Barltrop

• ... that the Panacea Society believed in God the Father, God the Mother, Jesus the Son and Olivia (pictured)? Source: here
  • ALT0a: ... that the Panacea Society believed in God, Jesus and Olivia (pictured)?
  • ALT1: ... that after dying of diabetes, the followers of Olivia (pictured) waited for three days to allow her to resurrect? Source: here

• Reviewed: Cueva de las Manos
• Comment: Quite a large fork but much more than 1500 chars of new text

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 18:23, 17 November 2021 (UTC).

• Comments by Tbhotch

General eligibility:

• New enough:
• Long enough:
• Other problems:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems:

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed:
• Used in article:
• Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Victuallers: A new article that is long enough. No copyvios detected ("Violation Unlikely 18.7%) and no close paraphrasing from offline available sources. I'm torn between ALT0 and ALT1 as both are interesting. Also, ALT1 link doesn't say this, but the sources are in the article. The picture looks OK , however, the license reads: "the date of creation of the work was over 120 years ago, and it is thus a reasonable assumption that the copyright has expired". It says that it was created circa 1925. 1925+120=2045. So I suggest running it without the file. (licence replaced) QPQ done. I made a few adjustments and left a {{page needed}} tag (this doesn't affect the nomination but needs to be solved eventually). (CC) Tbhotch^™ 02:21, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

• @Victuallers: how would you feel about the slightly quirkier ALT0a that I've placed above? No pressure, of course, I'm happy to promote either of the other hooks. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 07:56, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm OK with that (as an alternative) although it implies that they still had a holy trinity and it was a holy quartet (mother made four) Victuallers (talk) 17:50, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Promoter's comment: I'm just going to take ALT0. Besides, the only holy quartet is The Beatles. Thanks for humouring me! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 02:00, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

ALT0 to T:DYK/P4 without image

Olivia

Victuallers, forgot to ask this, was she "Olivia" or "Octavia"? I read several times that it was Octavia, but the DYK hook and this article mentions the name of Olivia sometimes. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 02:16, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Victuallers, I came to ask the same question - should Olivia in infobox and hook (which is currently in next queue) actually be Octavia? JennyOz (talk) 16:57, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

TbhotchJennyOz Oh thats (v prob) my mistake - it should be Octavia for the 8th prophet (or Mabel) Victuallers (talk) 17:11, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Victuallers, I tweaked infobox. JennyOz (talk) 17:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)