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Misc[edit]

Is this RFID technology? - Mlaheji 09:01, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. ISO 14443 defines a type of RFID card, though I wasn't sure how to word this in the introduction. I added a "see also" link to the article anyway. — Christopher (talk) @ 17:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How would a MiFARE card appear to a "standard" RFID reader? And how would a standard RFID card appear to a MiFARE reader? --121.44.248.152 10:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, RFID is a method and MIFARE is a standard, so your question doesn't really make sense. There is no "standard" RFID card. 81.215.13.145 14:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure the Oyster card uses MIFARE standard and not desFIRE as shown in your document. Maybe its just the way its been laid out. User: Anon 00:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

May I suggest that you use those terms with care - after all, this is an encyclopedia project and not a blog.

  • "Standard" means a specification that has been ratified and published by a national or international body, like the ISO, IEC, IEEE, NIST, DIN and the like. MIFARE is not a standard, but a proprietary specification. It is very widely used, and the owner (NXP Semiconductors B.V.) has licensed it to other companies. MIFARE references (uses) some standards, e.g. ISO/IEC 14443 type A and ISO/IEC 7816-4.
  • "MIFARE standard" may be used to describe a certain generation of the MIFARE technology, or even a certain silicon chip. However, that term ("MIFARE standard") is so fuzzy it really curls my toenails. If you mean a chip, name the chip. If you mean application, name the application. If you mean a generation, reference the generation.
  • The term "RFID" is paired with a dangerously unspecific concept. RFID is not a standard. The term is often used to label any technology that uses contactless communication powered from the reader device's electromagnetic field, starting from logistics tags (sticker in WalMart warehouse) at the low end and ranging through microprocessors with sophisticated cryptography coprocessors at the high end (electronic passports with BAC/EAC). The term "RFID" tricks you into believing that these very different things are similarly complex and similarly "secure" (or "unsecure", depending on the point of view). This is far from being the case, however. May I suggest to replace "RFID" with a more exact description - like "ISO 14443 contactless communication", "contactless chip card" or the like. --Himbeerkuchen (talk) 14:52, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

How is it pronounced? Is it pronounced "my fare"? --EHiroshi (talk) 05:02, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, "my fare" (without a pause between the words). At least that was how it was pronounced in Australia, in the smart card company that I used to work for. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like it should be /mɪˈfɛə(ɹ)/ like "minute" "fare", since it originally stood for MIKRON FARE Collection produced by Mikron Gesellschaft für Integrierte Mikroelektronik in Austria, and Mikron starts with /mɪ/ in German 37.153.16.198 (talk) 08:04, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Variations[edit]

What exactly is the meaning/point of this sentence at the beginning of the Variants section: "(also referred to as a Proximity Coupling Device which is suitable to use)".

It does not link anywhere, nor is the term Proximity Coupling Device used in the article... Being non-native speaker, this might just be me misunderstanding 188.181.8.98 (talk) 05:28, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that it means "contactless" card. That is a clumsy phrasing, and I don't think it adds anything. I'll take it out. Nerfer (talk) 19:59, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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NPOV / Copyright issues[edit]

Hello, I'm not a Wikipedian but I see that the many contributions of Clipu to this page (Clipu who hasn't worked on any other page on Wikipedia) are not exactly NPOV - mainly because his texts seem to have been pasted directly from Mifare's website. Somewhere he writes "our industry-leading MIFARE", where "our" obviously relates to the company. I was first alerted when I found this page and it read like an advertisement. As I said, I am not a Wikipedian and certainly not an expert on this subject so I'm not getting into this; however, somebody else probably should... 77.172.143.56 (talk) 18:52, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, phrases like "offers solution developers and operators the maximum flexibility for their ticketing schemes" seem very biased. 129.21.245.213 (talk) 14:44, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Variants section is a bit of a mess[edit]

First, it says there are 7 different kinds of cards, then has a list of 9 items. One of which is the SAM, which is not a card type, the others are a mix of card families and specific card types. Then each item (approximately) is repeated below with more detail. That's the part that has NPOV/copyright issues. It seems SAM at least should be pulled out and some distinction made between family and specific types. Nerfer (talk) 20:54, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hyperlink Consistency[edit]

Hello! I am relatively new to editing on Wikipedia, so, sorry for any mistakes I will make. I am wondering whether each row/column on the "Places that use MIFARE products" section should have consistent hyperlinking. For example, I often see the locality column being formatted as "Country (City)", with the city being hyperlinked to the corresponding Wikipedia article. Is this formatting preferred, or should a different approach be used, e.g. hyperlinking the country and city together? Just a small thing, -KonlyandhisBeer (talk) 03:36, 19 September 2023 (UTC)![reply]

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