Talk:Loyd Grossman

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The current revision of the article includes an image of the "Arms of Loyd Grossman". What entitles him to use these arms, and who granted them? Trilobite 00:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The College of Arms granted them to him on the 5 March 2004. Craigy (talk) 23:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, an actual picture of him is much better. Iolakana•T 20:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tags[edit]

This page is tagged as resembling a fan site, and as having disputed neutrality. I see nothing to justify either criticism, and whoever tagged it hasn't bothered to explain their thinking here. Unless anyone objects, I'll remove the tags. Rojomoke (talk) 19:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Upper Canada College[edit]

Thealbear has removed the reference to Upper Canada College ostensibly because Loyd Grossman has denied ever having attended this institution. I cannot find a reference for this denial, but nor can I find any reference that he ever attended UCC either, so I will remove the alumni category too. Has anyone else any information about this? Rhebus (talk) 13:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Loyd Grossman's denial is in this Cambridge Varsity Profile of him, along with his denial that he invented the McFlurry.[1] --Genie (talk) 04:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link, and although it's not specific about which college, it seems pretty clear. Glad to be vindicated in my edit! :) rhebus (talk) 15:28, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Advertising campaign since 2008?[edit]

I've not had a TV for 3 years and I can still remember his adverts for Lloyds Grossman sauces. Something seems wrong here! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.4.150 (talk) 11:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Chef qualification[edit]

This article mentions that Loyd Grossman is a chef. I can see training in art, history, journalism and food criticism, but I see no evidence that Grossman is a chef. Can any proof of this be provided? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.104.165 (talk) 00:04, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He is known as a gastronome rather than a chef. I don't remember him ever cooking anything in any of his food related TV shows. I won't change the article as I know little about LG beyond his TV work. --Ef80 (talk) 18:10, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

I feel the current image isn't a good one. Sure, Grossman plays guitar, but it's not what he's known for best, he's much more widely known for his TV presenting, Masterchef hosting and adverts. It doesn't suitably reflect the person the article covers. 86.129.206.128 (talk) 00:37, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Musician?!?[edit]

Ask anyone in England and Loyd Grossman is known as a bespectacled, eccentrically voiced commentator on food and interior design. That's about it. He may very well have been in a punk band in his youth but weren't we all? He's not a musician and the current photo serves only as a parody of his actual persona. Twizzlemas (talk) 21:57, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the photo is somewhat misleading. LG is quite well known as an amateur guitarist but this is still a minor part of his public persona.
Agree - I've yet to meet anyone who knows that Grossman is a hobby guitarist, whereas everyone knows him for his very unusual (unique?) accent.

In my country (England) he is best known for being part of the presentational team of a television programme called Through the Keyhole. The article does actually mention that he was on this programme, but if he held a less well known career of musician years ago, it could go in the article - after all, these articles are meant to be informative! 15:14, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

New Edits[edit]

Hi,

I work in Loyd Grossman's office. I hope that I can work with you all to maintain the Loyd Grossman Wikipedia article, ensuring that information is updated regularly and is factually accurate.

I've outlined a few changes below that could help improve the existing article, but I’d like to run them past you first and get your approval before making any edits. (I've put some possible internal Wikipedia article links in bold to make things easier.)

Early Life & Education[edit]

  • Loyd was born in Boston, Massachusetts [2]
  • His mother’s family settled in Buenos Aires before immigrating to Boston in the early twentieth century.
  • Loyd graduated from Boston University (BA History) in 1972, before arriving in the United Kingdom in 1975 to study at the London School of Economics from which he graduated with a M.Sc. Econ. [3]
  • Loyd is a former member of the Council of the LSE and is now an Emeritus Governor. He was elected a Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries in 2003 [4]
  • In September 2008 Loyd Grossman took up a place at Magdalene College, Cambridge a received an MPhil in History of Art from Cambridge in 2009 . [5]

Honours[edit]

  • In November 2007 Loyd Grossman received a Doctor of Letters degree honoris causa from the University of Chester in recognition of his work with historic churches [6]

Music[edit]

  • Jet Bronx And The Forbidden reached number 49 in the UK singles chart in December 1977 with "Ain't Doin' Nothing".[7]

TV and Radio appearances[edit]

  • Loyd Grossman co devised and presented Through the Keyhole (1987 to 2003), [8] a television programme examining the homes of public figures.
  • Loyd also presented MasterChef (1990 to 2000) and Junior Masterchef, competitive cooking programmes; the History of British Sculpture (2003); [9]

Sauces[edit]

  • Loyd Grossman’s has developed a number of food products, including pasta and curry sauces manufactured by Premier Foods. [10]

NHS Sauces[edit]

  • In 2000, Loyd Grossman was appointed to head a project to improve the quality of sauces served in British NHS hospitals [11]

Philanthropy[edit]

  • Mr Grossman is also involved in charity work. He is particularly associated with the work of museums and heritage bodies in the UK, being a former chairman of the Blue Plaques Panel, the Campaign for Museums, the Public Monuments and Sculpture Association, National Museums Liverpool, the vice-chair of the Liverpool Culture Company, and a trustee of St Deiniol's Library. He has also served as a Commissioner of English Heritage and a Commissioner of the Museums and Galleries Commission.In 2007 he was appointed Chairman of the Churches Conservation Trust. He is also Chairman of the Heritage Alliance, the umbrella group which represents 92 heritage related NGOs. [12]

Personal Life[edit]

  • Loyd Grossman married Deborah Puttnam, the daughter of movie producer David Puttnam, and has two daughters. The couple divorced in 2004.[11] His current partner is British aristocrat Lady Jane Wellesley, a daughter of the 8th Duke of Wellington.[12][13] Mr Grossman’s Mid-Atlantic accent reflects his Boston origins as well as the many years he has spent in the UK. It sounds strange to many Britons and Americans. It is often the subject of parody, including in ads for his own sauces, where home cooks imitate his speech as they use sauces that are promoted as having a "distinctive voice."[14]

Let me know if I can proceed with making the above edits.

Thanks, Lgwikirep (talk) 20:43, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, could someone get back to me on the proposed edits above? Thanks Lgwikirep (talk) 11:32, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for declaring the potential conflict of interest up front, that is very much appreciated. Most of what you suggest seems fine to me, but there are a few issues with some of the edits. Firstly, although many of them are tied to reliable, independent, third party sources, there are quite a few that are not. Sourcing information from his own Linkedin page and a food company directly associated with him is original research, and as such isn't suitable for a Wikipedia article. Also, the Society of Antiquaries' directory is a primary source and so can only be used to support the simple statement about his election date. I don't see any information there on his relationship, past and present, with the LSE. Finally, some of the sources don't support some of the facts associated with them. The University of Chester source only states that he is an honorary graduate; it makes no mention of the degree awarded, the date, or the citation for such. The BBC Wiltshire article states that he had "chart success" but doesn't mention where the single reached. The Telegraph article mentions that he had enrolled at Magdalene, but makes no mention of his final graduation. Other sources will need to be found to substantiate these claims. Other than that, most of these proposed changes are improvements. Pyrope 13:51, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RETAIN[edit]

Based on the first available edit, with the spelling "programme", I am invoking WP:RETAIN and aligning dates to dmy format. Please discuss and revert if there are objections. Radiopathy •talk• 15:40, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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