Talk:Live at the Matrix 1967

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Original Research Dispute[edit]

I deleted the unreferenced section. If proper sources are provided, it's naturally going back in, I guess. For as long as no sources are provided, the section stays where it is, ie. in the page history. 128.214.133.2 (talk) 09:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • I see the OR "Master Tape boys" are back in business, and this article is all the worse for it. (It strikes me as mildly odd these boys are seemingly enraged and deeply hurt because the Doors have released an album. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's called capitalism, and like it or not, that's how it works. And please, no "the Doors, like, owe us, dude" comedy routine, ok? Unless you've sold them something and they never paid you, they owe you zip.) Additionally, wikipedia is not a forum. 82.181.201.82 (talk) 21:57, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Forum[edit]

This article seems less focused on the release than on the technicalities regarding. Mind you, Wikipedia is not a forum. "Wikipedia is not a soapbox, a battleground, or a vehicle for propaganda and advertising." 128.214.133.2 (talk) 10:04, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'd put this article up as a candidate for deletion. Whaddya say? 82.181.201.82 (talk) 03:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it makes sense. This article is pointless and seems to attract troublemakers who delight in picking fights. But how does one delete an article? I'm new to this.

  • Just include a tag for "candidate for deletion". Voting commences. 128.214.133.2 (talk) 07:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dates[edit]

Might it make sense to include the actual date that each track of this release was recorded on - i.e., March 7 or 10? I'm not confident I know this for every track, so I'm going to hold off for now.User:Oxocube (talk) 16:24, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Without sources that'd be original research. Even if mssrs Densmore, Jampol, Manzarek, Krieger and Abram would come to your house and tell you every single detail of the gig(s), you could not include it in the article, due to there being no published sources. Strange, innit? 128.214.133.2 (talk) 07:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright[edit]

There's been some back and forth editing on this article, with one user acting upon the concern "Removed copyrighted info, info from copyrighted sources, and illegal posting of sound files which violate coyright." I'll concede that the sound files linked by another editor are an issue and should be not explicitly linked. But I question whether public statements made by Jeff Jampol and Bruce Botnick on a public forum are to be regarded as copyrighted material. I will be OK with the inclusion of those quotes unless I hear a more compelling argument otherwise.Oxocube (talk) 16:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oxocube, Wikipedia is not a forum for venting your personal disgruntlement w/ the Doors, who seem to have -- for some reason -- angered and hurt you deeply. Abram's involvement is hardly the main issue in the minds of the majority of people reading about the 60's band. You're doing us all a disservice by pointing out one minor aspect of the topic. Stop. 82.181.201.82 (talk) 03:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree this article is a dud, my review of ox's edits show that s/he's been more concerned with the mechanics of the article: adding the artwork that is usually found for album entries, the song titles, putting references into the proper format, etc. If anything, his/her other edits have tempered what some others have contributed in recent days. Sheesh, cut him/her some slaque

  • Sure thing, I agree the article is sorely lacking. However, even w/ unmoderated entries -- which are fine in and of themselves -- proper citations and sources should always be added. I do not contend there wouldn't be issues w/ the release, I'm merely pointing out the weaknesses and flaws in the article proper. It can all stand as is, as long as citations and sources are given. 128.214.133.2 (talk) 07:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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