Talk:List of heritage buildings in Vancouver

Opening comment

I started this as a jumping off point to improve the coverage of Vancouver's historic buildings in some kind of systematic way. Ideally it should be expanded to include all the entries in the heritage register (not just schedules A and B), since many important structures are missing, such as everything in Chinatown and Gastown. Alot of these entries don't merit their own articles, but the important info can be included here. Also note that a lot of important historic buildings are not included in the official registry or have been demolished that should eventually find a home on the Vancouver Project. Still to be done:

• add information and correct any misinformation (details seems to fluctuate depending on the source).
• take and add photos.
• Sort. This is the order I found them in, which apparently follows some kind of city bureaucrat bean-counting logic. I'm thinking alphabetical by street would be the most user friendly (a lot don't have names, so alphabetical by name wouldn't work). I believe that's how the registry is ordered.

Some tedious work ahead, of the type that makes me think there should be a paycheck involved. bobanny 20:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Will see if I can get out and knock off some pictures of a couple of the east Vancouver and downtown sites. Can't guarantee it'll be anytime soon though. RichMac (Talk) 05:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Great. No rush. I'll do the same, but it's not high on my priority list right now. Mind you, this is the perfect time for photos in this city: skies are bluer, and the leaves are only beginning to appear on the trees. I like leaves, don't get me wrong, but in another month they'll be obstructing the view of a lot of buildings :) bobanny 08:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I Was going to take some pictures of some of the 10 highest in the city on the weekend but the weather was horrible for it. RichMac (Talk) 08:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

List of demolished buildings in Vancouver

Seeing and linking Theatre Row Vancouver) touched me off...this from a formerboard member of the Music Undergraduate Society - we were part of hte opening charge on the Orpheum, and also someone who marched in the "funeral" for the Birks Building. Many others come to mind that deserve articles, above and beyond the Hotel Vancouver (1916):

• Coronet Theatre
• Strand Theatre (Vancouver)
• Lyric Theatre (the original Orpheum)
• and all the rest of teh theatres now gone, plus:
• Exhibition Buildings (PNE) - I'll find a pic, demolished for structural reasons in the '20s
• British Columbia Building/BC Building, PNE and Challenger Relief Map
• Big Dipper Roller Coaster OK OK it's not demolished, the idea is that it's notable and needs an article; oh, officially it's "Coaster" so Coaster (Exhibition Park, Vancouver) might be the title; see Talk:List of roller coaster records.
• Orillia Apartments
• Anglesea Lodge and otheres like it, on the water side of BEach
• English Bay Bathhouse - maybe has an article already? Also not demolished but worth mentioing; and the old Crystal Pool (Vancouver) - where teh VAC is now.
• Grovesnor Hotel
• Devonshire Hotel
• Alcazar Hotel
• not sure what to title it as - the previous CPR station, at hte foot of Granville, in Chateau/Railway Gothic; and the old Great Northern Station (Vancouver)
• And the zoo buildings? Has the bear grotto been demolished? Not taht it's heritage, but it's certainaly a notable structure; as also teh old seal/monkey enclosure....and what's that footbridge over Park Drive at hte park end of the Causeway called? And Royal Vancouver Yacht Club and its sisters and Vancouver Rowing Club presumably all have articles already....Skookum1 (talk) 22:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Neighbourhood labelling

Wouldn't it help to have a "neighbourhood" column or maybe a way to break the table up by neighbourhood/area; at present the order seems haphazrd.Skookum1 (talk) 05:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

MacBlo "concrete waffle"

I know it's not on this list, thoguh architecturally notable; wondering what it's called now as I just added mention of it to the MacMillan Bloedel page. If it is heritage (and no doubt one day it will be, because it's "an Erickson") and is already on the list I didn't notice as I'm unfamiliar with what it's called now. And it's still jsut as ugly as ever, too.... Skookum1 (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

• so far as I can see, it's not on the list of heritage buildings in Vancouver, and I haven't seen the heritage plaque on the building. But, another landmark (might not be the building) is the large neon Bowmac sign. Doesn't seem to have a catagory, for the historic neon signs that Vancouver lost. Iota 9 (talk) 22:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but it still sucks, both as design and as a building. Neo-brutalism at its worst.24.81.25.127 (talk) 09:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Hastings Mill Store pic

The caption should probably say "at its old location", and I'm not actually sure that that is the original building/location, but rather another building built in the 1890s; looks new, don't it? And not something that would have been thirty years old at the time, too, huh? Compare to the actual building now at Jericho Park and you'll see waht I mean; the architectural style - false-front - in the picture fits the 1860s, but also the 1890s, and that siding looks new, as does the boardwalk.....Skookum1 (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Vancouver Club pic is wrong

That may be an earlier buildling on the same site, but to me it looks like it's the Arbutus Club (but I've never been in the grounds to see it from that angle), which was a "branch plant" of the Vancouver Club originally; hte Vancouver Club is on West Hastings just east of Burrard, on the harbour side of the street, next to the mini-park at the foot of Hornby; its ballroom faces over what is now the Waterfront/Coal Harbour devleopment and used to be a bluff; easy enough to get a pick of the Hastings Street facade, and of the huge bay window of the ballroom/clubroom overlooking the harbour (you'll note that their view of the mountains han'st been blocked). The comment in the box should say "the most prestigious gentleman's club in Vancouver". Is the Terminal City Club heritage too? (just west of the Marine Building on Hastings).Skookum1 (talk) 06:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

List of heritage buildings in Greater Vancouver

This seems necesary, given there's so many in New West and North/West Van but also around Richmond, Maple Ridge etc; maybe "Lower Mainland" would be better so as to include Mission/Abby...either that or the scope of this list should bexpanded beyodn the City of Vancouver but that would get kind of unwieldy....Skookum1 (talk) 06:33, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Second thoughts on that, having just added heritagecvancouver's listing of New West to the New Westminster page's external links:

• • List of heritage buildings in New Westminster
  • List of heritage buildings in North and West Vancouver (or separately?)
  • List of heritage buildings in Burnaby
  • Less important:
    • List of heritage buildings in Richmond, British Columbia
    • List of heritage buildings in Surrey, British Columbia
    • not so sure that Delta, Coquitlam/Port Coquitlam, Maple Ridge-Pitt Meadows, Langley, would have "worthwhile listings". New West's in particular are of heritage/historical importance at the provincial/national level. Port Moody's list might be small, also, but quite likely notable enough to bother with....Abbotsford has a bit of a list, too, notably the first Sikh temple in BC
  • The combined solution would be List of heritage buildings in the Lower Mainland, so as to bridge the urban municipalities with the Central/Upper Valley ones and avoid (as I prefer to do) invocation of the "regional district"=based geographic division. Unless Metro Vancouver maintains such a list; but if it did I suspect it would only apply to buildings in the electoral areas, not in incorporated municipalities.....Skookum1 (talk) 00:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Pantages Theatre (Vancouver)

Would this article qualify for the list? -- œ^™ 05:53, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Name / purpose of the article

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The result of the move request was: No consensus. Ucucha 13:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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List of heritage buildings in Vancouver → List of designated Vancouver heritage buildings — Relisted for further input. Jafeluv (talk) 08:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

This article's name does not match it's focus. If it is only designed to include Schedule A and B buildings, designated "M" for legal protection, under the City of Vancouver's pre-2003 heritage bylaws, then the grandiose title of "List of heritage buildings in Vancouver" is too broad, as it implies a list of all heritage buildings of any kind within Vancouver. A better title would be List of designated Vancouver heritage buildings or somesuch (suggestions encouraged). There should then be a background article explaining that all three levels of government provide heritage designation, often several different kinds: Heritage buildings in Vancouver (viz Heritage buildings in Edmonton). --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 19:14, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

• Comment. I'm not sure adding the word 'designated' would further clarify things much for those unfamiliar with the relevant bylaws and how the word 'designated' is related to those bylaws. The majority of readers would still need to read the explanation in the lead paragraph to understand the scope of the list whether or not we include the word "designated" in the title. My only suggestion would be to leave the title as is and expand the lead paragraph to more narrowly define the scope. -- œ^™ 03:29, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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Demolished buildings

there's already an article on teh 2nd Hotel Vancouver (but not the first) and a pic of the 2nd CPR station (the Gothic Chateau one at the foot of Granville) and various others; I found ==old exhibition buildings== I found this on VPL's Historical Photographs site tonight; totally public domain, which is of a set of exhibition buildings at Hastings Park....these really nice buildings were structurally unstable...what a pity huh? They were about where the Food or ShowMart Buildings were/are and were taken down by the end of the '20s. There's other shots in VPL, public domain, that have pics of items such as the English Bay Pier and the neighbouring Anglesea Lodge, the Devonshire Hotel, the Royal Alexander Hotel, the Denman Arena, various old theatres, the China Creek bicycle-race track, the Inns of Court, the old courthouse (at Victory Square), mansions on the old Blueblood Alley (West Pender) and probably the Orillia, the Birks Building and other famous-but-vanished structures that exemplified the Vancouver/Edwardian era of which only traces remain today; and then there's items like the old palm-leaf palapas which were built as rain pavilions around the Stanley Park ring road. I don't have the resources (being currently in Nova Scotia) to begin scribing up an article about them, but just a thought for someone to take and run with some day....Skookum1 (talk) 22:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

819 Granville

Either the photo is wrong, or the address is wrong. Granville and 12th, shown in the picture, would have a street address in the 2800 range; 819 Granville is on theatre row, roughly at Granville and Robson, and it is an art deco style two-storey business building with terracotta decorations. Not listed as heritage though it should be.24.81.25.127 (talk) 09:45, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

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Alphabetize?

I know the table is sortable, but shouldn't its initial view-state be alphabetical?Skookum1 (talk) 15:13, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Needed: List of heritage buildings in New Westminster

Please see Talk:New_Westminster#Needed_List_of_heritage_buildings_in_New_Westminster. I'm hoping that the heritage-minded editors who built this list do a similar table-list for New Westminster. Queen's Park is not just the park, but also an official heritage district within the city, and so that article needs a split between the park and the neighbourhood.Skookum1 (talk) 08:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

no plaques - remove that column and have larger images?

The plaques column is empty in all sections; wouldn't it be better to delete that column and have room for larger thumbnail images?Skookum1 (talk) 07:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Very much so. Text and photographs of plaques are both copyright violations. According to policy we can't use fair use images in list articles which is probably why some don't have images at all. Pantages Theatre I uploaded for the article but can't use it here.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:00, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Interesting, and weird......if I get a chance today I'll plod through the table and take out that column.....what size d'ya think the pics should be?Skookum1 (talk) 01:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

220px wide should be fine. That is the normal size in the body of articles. Infoboxes allow up to 300px but MOS recommends not sizing them in infoboxes because some browsers have problems with them.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

I used 250px as you can see....you want to do the honours this time? - that was a copy-paste into a text editor I have (EditPad, which I have an old freeware version of, unlike EditPad Lite where the same functions are now pay-for) and did it last night......just ballparked 250px, think it looks fine, unless you'd like to see 220px. Any interest in cooperating on building the New West list, by the way? Need public domain pics of them, I'm not around to go take them, but so many important heritage buildings such a list/table is long overdue.....Skookum1 (talk) 02:24, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

And just to comment that the list itself is a large project, but it behooves the creation of other articles, particularly the old Government House, the Law Courts and former older courthouse, certain mansions (and Irving House) and such; like the heritage and historic lists for Vancouver some will just be unlinked houses, but the Burr Block and such need articles also. The absence of the major churches in New West is also at issue re List of places of worship in Greater Vancouver and its AfD discussion....q.v.Skookum1 (talk) 02:35, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

found good heritage pic, but....

It's of buildings long-demolished, but didn't know where else to put this for now, located it in the new British Library collection on the Commons. Edwardian Vancouver at its pinnacle; note that the "new" Bay isn't on the near left corner, and also note the theatre awning on the right, just beyond the Hotel Vancouver; that's the old Lyric. Obviously not to scale/perspective, and the Birks Building looks taller and more imposing than I remember it. Also this one's centre-frame could be cropped; I guess all for the Hotel Vancouver (1916) article, but it does bring to mind a List of former buildings in Vancouver, by whatever name.Skookum1 (talk) 15:14, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

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