Talk:List of deadliest Storm Prediction Center days by outlook risk level

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A few points of dispute[edit]

It appears that the severe weather outlooks section is including some events that were non-tornadic. This makes sense to me, since tornadoes are just one part of convective outlooks, the others being straight-line winds and hail. Thus I'm fine with including the Table Rock Lake duck boat accident, which was caused by high winds. However, I'm leaning against including the 1993 Storm of the Century because it appears that most of the deaths in Florida were due to flooding, which is not part of the convective forecast. The number of convective fatalities is at least 5 (due to tornadoes), but I'm not sure if there's a source out there that specifies how the other 42 people died.
The "25 deaths" figure for the 2020 Washington Labor Day fires is referring to all fires that were burning in a given week, per this source. So it includes some of the August 2020 California lightning wildfires, which had started a few weeks earlier and continued to spread during this time. I suggest that we should instead only include fatalities from the fires that actually started on the Extremely Critical days (September 7-8). According to the list in 2020 Western United States wildfire season, there were 3 people killed in the September 7 fires (Slater/Devil and Holiday Farm) and 8 killed in the September 8 fires (Santiam and Almeda Drive).

Ionmars10 (talk) 02:50, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ionmars10:

Yeah I thought about that as well. But at the same time, I feel like the Storm of the Century was a very unique situation. The severe storm surge caused by the system seems to have caused most of the deaths in Florida. But the squall line with this system was exceptionally powerful. Widespread straight line winds well over 100 mph, similar to a landfalling hurricane. Derechos this powerful seem to almost always occur in inland locations where there is more instability, so we never get to see the effects of storm surge from them. The 2013 East Coast meteotsunami is another example, albeit much less extreme instance of a derecho affecting the tides. Basically, even though the SPC doesn't explicitly warn of storm surge as a risk, this was a unique case and the squall line was directly responsible for the storm surge and henceforth the deaths as well. For this reason I think that it should be included.
The problem is that the 2020 Western US wildfire season list omits all the other 25 deaths that occurred from the event over that one week period. I wish that I could find a source stating the exact daily breakdown of the 25 fatalities for the event over the one week period of September 7 to the 14, but I can't find one anywhere. I feel like the figures of 3 deaths on September 7 and 8 deaths on September 8 are most likely innacurate and misrepresentative and don't portray the true scale of the event. Some sources even say that 35 people died in fires that week, and most of them probably occurred on September 7 and 8, but how can we know for sure? Maybe we can add a footnote to the 25 deaths explaining that a daily breakdown is unavailable? Undescribed (talk) 12:23, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marginal risks[edit]

Hello weather wikipedia!, im wondering why there isn't a list for marginal risks. since it is the "List of deadliest Storm Prediction Center days by outlook risk level". anyway have a great day people! ModdiWX (message me!) 17:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]