Talk:List of countries and territories by motor vehicles per capita

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Table[edit]

Ideally this would be a pivot table showing number of vehicles and population of each country as well as the vehicles per capita, and maybe even accidents rate. I don't have this data, nor am I inclined to find it at the moment, plus I don't know how to make a pivot table... TastyCakes (talk) 22:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC) It has to be considered also if the statistic refer to 'registered vehicle' or 'vehicles in use'. Which of these are the 'vehicles per capita' refering to? --Addnid65 (talk) 16:37, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Iceland[edit]

The number for Iceland is wrong. The 2010 number provided by Iceland Statistics (see: hagstofa.is) is 643 vehicles per 1000 inhabitants, putting Iceland a bit lower on the list, next to Canada).

Going by the same numbers the numbers for 2015 would be 787, see http://px.hagstofa.is/pxis/pxweb/is/Sogulegar/Sogulegar__sogul_samgongurogfjarskipti/SOG17000.px/table/tableViewLayout1/?rxid=43df512b-a96a-467d-b0c3-c8205a631eaa
But those are private cars, not total vehicles those numbers can be found here (end of 2016), http://bifreidatolur.samgongustofa.is/?nid=1322
That would add up to 1018 vehicles per 1000 (344.664 / 338.349 * 1000) and would be inline with how the US numbers are achieved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.181.112.65 (talk) 16:31, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the data from the Icelandic Transport Authority refers to the number of 'registered vehicles'. Data from the EU is refering to 'vehicles in use'. 'Registered vehicles' and 'vehicles in use' are not compatable. The percentage of registered vehicles in use in Iceland are ca. 83%. --Addnid65 (talk) 16:37, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Egypt[edit]

Cairo alone has 4.5 million cars, and Alexandria has ove 1 million, so Egypt as a whole would likely have about 10 million cars, or in the range of 160 per thousand of population, and the table shows 30, i.e. is off by a factor of 5 or 6. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.166.208.139 (talk) 16:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guam[edit]

Is there any figure for Guam? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.218.218.109 (talk) 13:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here you are. http://www.populstat.info/Oceania/guamg.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.118.130.55 (talk) 11:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sweden[edit]

why is not Sweden in the list? Sweden 456 from source 1

Hmm people are changing data in the list without updating map... Don't know why Sweden wasn't in the list, sorry I guess I didn't compile it very carefully. TastyCakes (talk) 22:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate data[edit]

The data seems inaccurate, I am afraid. Because within the year 2007 only, Chinese market sold 8.8million vehicles. In 2006, this number was 6.5million. Only these two years combine, it would far beyond the 10 per 1000 data. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wensi w (talk • contribs) 12:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm yes it seems quite possible that the NationMaster data is out of date for fast changing countries, and I can't find nay indication on the site and its source when the information was current. If you have a more up to date/accurate source, please change the data. TastyCakes (talk) 18:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Distinction between vehicles and cars[edit]

I'm wondering if there's a distinction between vehicles and cars in these statistics. The number for Malaysia seems a bit high if it's cars only.Venug22 (talk) 15:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • the source is unreliable, Malaysia is not a rich country. The country annual car production is less than half a million. Are the added all kind of vehicle including motorcycle and water vehicle? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.50.155.116 (talk) 04:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What the article claims to be showing is a little confusing - the title is "List of countries by vehicles per capita", but the text says "This article is a list of countries by the number of cars per 1000 people" (my emphasis), with the note that some figures include motorcycles. So is it motor vehicles (which is more than just cars and motorcycles), cars, cars and motorcycles only (no buses and lorries)? I think a little clarification would be useful. Oscroft (talk) 11:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This list needs to be edited to show vehicles or just cars, now its giving wrong impression as it includes both styles --Typ932 T·C 13:14, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Discussion[edit]

A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 12:48, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Malawi number is simply wrong[edit]

See: A strip mall parking lot in LiLongwe. That photograph alone shows 11 identifiable automobiles, and if I'm to believe the main page here, there are only 14 cars in the entire country.

I call shenanigans! - 63.107.91.99 (talk) 22:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm yes that does seem to be a mistake. Probably the data (from here) is simply not very reliable for some countries. At a guess it does it from government registered cars or something and this is simply not done in countries such as Malawi. (incidentally, the site says 0, but I think somewhere you can download the data as an excel file and it gives the 0.001 number) TastyCakes (talk) 23:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


China's Number has to be wrong too[edit]

The Number for China, 18, can't be correct. I remember some weeks ago the number was many times higher. There were sold millions of cars in China alone in this year, over 7 Million and I think about 8 Million until the End of the year. So 18 vehicles/1000 population can't be correct. 1 Car/1000 would be ~1,35 Million if you take 1,35 billion people living in China. In the last 4 years there have been sold almost 20 Million cars. Together with India its the strongest, important, growing market in the World. I would say something around ~100 is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.185.116.103 (talk) 11:30, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. If China had 17 cars per 1,000 people that would mean 17 million cars per 1,000 million people....not 170 million as the article says...THE NUMBER IS WRONG.--213.96.251.70 (talk) 20:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Also, the URL has conflicting number from a more recent story http://www.spacemart.com/reports/China_to_have_200_million_vehicles_by_2020_state_media_999.html 07:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


The source http://news.xinhuanet.com/politics/2017-01/10/c_129440197.htm says that in 2016, there were 290M motor vehicles and 194M cars. The source doesn't explain what is included in the motor vehicle category.

One digit missing?[edit]

Given the number of vehicles produced in Iran, it seems likely that one digit (perhaps, the last one) is missing from Iran's value. I wouldn't change it myself as I am not too sure. But it requires the attention of someone with knowledge of this issue.Xullius (talk) 08:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


I feel that most of the numbers are wrong. It seems like the person who came up with the numbers assumes that all Asians and Africans excluding east asia are tribal. China has 170+ millions vehicles and it has 130+/1000 but India has 120 million vehicles and it has just 12/1000. Barring few countries in Africa most of the countries have vehicles in the range 100-500/1000. The difference is in countries like India you find more motorcycles than cars while it is the opposite in other, say European countries.

Other Reference[edit]

Here are some statistics I got from International Road Federation(IRF), World Road Statistics 2008.

Vehicles per 1000 people Passenger Cars per 1000 people
Country 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006
Canada 582 582 584 585 600
China 16 18 21 24 28
France 591 592 595 595 598
Germany 571 576 580 585 598
Hong Kong 82 82 81 82 82
Italy 659 — — 667 —
Japan 581 581 586 — —
South Korea 293 303 311 320 329
Singapore 134 133 134 142 147
Taiwan 263 271 282 293 295
United Kingdom 499 496 510 517 —
United States 797 796 808 819 816
Country 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006
Canada 559 561 — — —
China 8 10 12 15 18
France 489 492 494 494 496
Germany 541 541 546 550 565
Hong Kong — 52 53 — 52
Italy 584 — 590 595 —
Japan 428 433 441 — —
South Korea 205 214 218 230 240
Singapore 97 97 99 101 105
Taiwan 222 229 238 247 249
United Kingdom 446 440 451 457 —
United States — 467 465 461 —

However, I don't have complete data, and this book is not free though. Is anybody has the book? (and maybe spend sometime to type everything out??)

The current article don't have the date (of statistic), and I'm not sure where did NationMaster get these data..., maybe we should use a more reliable source. --Kerry7374 (talk) 02:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kerry7374 You are absolutely right. Looking at data from NationMaster it is out of date and not properly referenced. NationMaster can also be freely edited and even though it states that it's "compilation of data is from such sources as the CIA World Factbook, UN, and OECD" it never states what data it is using, where it is getting the data from, when these statistics were released, who or what agencys released them nor the level of credibility of these agencys. Until better references are added, such as a source from International Road Federation(IRF) it would be unwise to use the data from this page. I'm going to add an "unreliable source" tag to the NationMaster reference in a day or two. If you disagree, please discuss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewtss (talk • contribs) 01:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the NationMaster data is problematic because there are many dubious entries as outlined above and the original source isn't given. It'd be great if we could get up to date data from another source. TastyCakes (talk) 16:07, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Hong Kong missing from this list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.118.130.55 (talk) 17:28, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thailand data[edit]

After calculated, the result is about 416.7 vehicles (include motorcycles) per 1000 capita, or 160 vehicles (exclude motorcycles) per 1000 capita.

The number of vehicle registered in Thailand as of 31 Dec. 2009 is published, http://www.dlt.go.th/statistics_web/st1/whole_Dec09.xls , there are 27,184,577 vehicles.

--Love Krittaya (talk) 20:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2012[edit]

503 vehicles (include motorcycles) per 1000 capita, or 206 vehicles (exclude motorcycles) per 1000 capita

--Love Krittaya (talk) 12:47, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Slovakia[edit]

Actually, I found different numbers. According to Slovak assosiation of insurance companies (see http://www.skp.sk/?lng=eng&MODULE=7&SECTION=7), there were 2,024,000 cars insured in Slovakia in 2008. Compared to country population of 5,463,046 citizens it gives the ratio of 370 cars per 1000 citizens, which is comparable to Czech republic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.24.7 (talk) 21:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request to move page[edit]

This is a request to move this related article to List of countries by motor vehicles per capita, by appending the word 'motor' into the title. The term 'vehicle' covers (in the UK and other European countries) pedal cycles and horse-drawn vehicles; vehicles that are not propelled by mechanical means. I, therefore, state that the article title is misleading and propose a move; please discuss. Kevin Steinhardt (talk) 22:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Corrections in Panama[edit]

Census 2010 in Panama, reflects that the present population, is smaller to the estimations. Then I actualize the data of the 2010 population, that is of 3,322,576 habitants, (annual growth of 1.48%). So the 2009 population is 3,273,401 habitants. Travieso94 (talk) 14:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where is Vietnam?[edit]

Vietnam seems to be missing on here. I was looking up information on it and it is not here. I noticed the same with Thailand. Ruggles the Editor (talk) 13:50, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Correction of US Data[edit]

The table was highly misleading, counting only passenger cars for Europe and motorized vehicles (including buses, trucks, delivery vans, etc.) for the US. I have corrected the US data based on official sources and clarified where possible what is actually being counted. Now, the same classification of vehicles is being counted for both European and US data. However, in interpreting the data, one needs to keep in mind that even though the same vehicle category is being counted now, usage by vehicle type is still different and classifications may differ as well. What the table actually might want to show is "vehicles used for personal transportation", but that data is not available. This update also is now more consistent with the other sources mentioned above: International Road Federation(IRF), World Road Statistics 2008.

Jcarnelian (talk) 00:52, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Table duplicates[edit]

UAE is listed twice as 43rd and 58th. It is clear from the source of the world bank's database that 43rd is the correct position. However, I am interested to see weather there is another updated source that "might" justify the duplication in this table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hala014 (talk • contribs) 18:18, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Liberia is also mentioned twice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.167.120.208 (talk) 00:21, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bias in title?[edit]

Be aware that bicycles are also considered to be vehicles. The 'vehicles per capita' in the title of this article shows a motor-centric bias and should be changed to List of countries by motor vehicles per capita. SaltyBoatr get wet 17:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Guam, Puerto Rico, and Hong Kong are not countries[edit]

This is meant to be a list of countries. Hong Kong is not a country but part of China. Guam and Puerto Rico are territories of the US. These do not belong in this list. If nobody has any objections I will remove them. MisterZed (talk) 22:31, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

True, Macau is not too. But since they have a very special status and I think Hongkong just returned 1998 under chinese controll (but not into the chinese state!), Macau is the Las Vegas of Asia, and Hongkong is a large port and airline city with a lot low-budget Tourism afaik, I think you can not count Hongkong or Macau to China, same as you can not count Guam or Puerto Rico, and people who are looking here are interested in numbers... and for example taking these microstates into the often far over 1,000 times as much populated country which has claim on the territory... it would mean nothing to the Chinese amount, maybe a 0.0x digit would change and a .05 which than maybe would be rounded up to 0.1...
But so you see how much the small Guam, Puerto Rico and Hong Kongo (and Macau ;)) motorization they got. Often on small islands there are some with quite a high number, but extreme limited land area... Singapore is the best case, extreme much cars, and area is like 40% of my home town Berlin, Germany... that is why the very special tourism offer (saw a docu once about it on Youtube) had 3 out of 10 tourists from Singapore... it is a "Porsche Driving holiday". They got their fleet of Porsche and I think some AD for porsche, and since they are noticed in every location they drive to with their 12 Porsche (10 drives + 2 "guides", both female :D), they drive from easy rural road, over normal highway,
than the Alpine region where you have to push the gas a bit stronger to reach a nice speeding up while driving it up... than the ultimate event for most "driving tourists" are the areas where you can drive as fast as you like, the Porsche are known near their "headquarters" (a large garage xD with some rooms to rest), the filling stations in a radius of a few kilometers "fought" for a long-term contract of gasoline for example ;) The one said, instead of 1,419€ per liter (~1.55 US-$ or so back than in 2012 or so) I offer you 1,409, the next goes for 1,399... but I think its more like maybe a 1.405 or so if allowed by law, since all prices at station always show the 9 as 9/10th of a cent, means taking exactly 1 liter you would lose your 0,1 cent since up to 10 liter there is no possible way to pay out the 1 cent than... all users in the report (Kazakhstan, Singapore, USA, Brazil) were satisfied, especially the rich man from Singapore said in his home there is no space to drive fast and going to Malaysia he does not like, and the strange but effective way to prevent "gasoline tourism" to Malaysia (since prices there are only ~50% of singapore prices), so you only can leave Singapore to Malaysia in a car with at least 2/3 (or 66.67%...) filled tank, I do not know much about cars and their technique, but I guess stretching it with water would lead to a fatal disfunction or in best case to a massive reduced speed which only could be somehow higher than walking speed if you would give all the time gas (so many of the mixture would be brought to the motor, and than at the next Malaysian station filling up, after this it woould be better but I think still limited?!
So its okay this way I think! Greetings Kilon22 (talk) 22:31, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hongkong is 100% countries. Check country article in Wikipedia man. - vc06697 - 16:39 Hongkong Time 8th Oct, 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vc06697 (talk • contribs) 08:39, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reviving this thread, I just came here and see Puerto Rico listed in one of the top 25. This is especially problematic since two different sources are used for U.S. and P.R. so it's not clear if the former includes the latter. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clear Definition of the scope[edit]

Hi. Can you all kindly clearly define the scope of the article? It includes for example trucks, buses or boats?

I think, as Eurostat, the purpose of this article should align with: Motorisation rate - Cars per 1 000 inhabitants Short Description: This indicator is defined as the number of passenger cars per 1 000 inhabitants. A passenger car is a road motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, intended for the carriage of passengers and designed to seat no more than nine persons (including the driver); the term "passenger car" therefore covers microcars (need no permit to be driven), taxis and hired passenger cars, provided that they have fewer than 10 seats; this category may also include pick-ups. Check this link or this document

If you want to be broader like the title refers "list of countries by the number of motor vehicles per 1,000 people. All figures include automobiles, SUVs, vans, and commercial vehicles; and exclude motorcycles and other two-wheelers." you shall clearly say land vehicles, otherwise you have to includes planes and boats.

Please clearly define the scope of this article.

Thank you João Pimentel Ferreira 08:17, 19 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joao.pimentel.ferreira (talk • contribs)

I changed the scope of definition to road motor vehicle because is the true purpose of the main reference. João Pimentel Ferreira 08:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joao.pimentel.ferreira (talk • contribs)

Does the 1000 people include everyone, regardless of age?...or is it every 1000 adults. 86.171.175.152 (talk) 06:59, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

India data was mis-interpreted[edit]

Somebody had mis-interpreted the data for India in this table, and listed it as 148 vehicles per 1000 population for India. He or she gave the website reference as http://indiatransportportal.com/2012/11/vehicles-in-india/ . I was highly intrigued by this huge number, and when I checked, this number of 148 was found out to be the global average, not Indian average. Please consult the website, which in any case is non-official for India. So I changed it to 41 vehicles per 1000 for India. The data is obtained from the official website of Indian Ministry of Statistics and Programme Implementation, whose reference I have already cited. The data is obtained, for 4-wheelers, by subtracting the number of two-wheelers from total number of vehicles (117 - 76 = 41). Sorry, but I could not manually update the rankings in the table yet. Cygnus_hansa (talk) 03:11, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The nationmaster source says it got it's data from this page[edit]

So the citation used by 90% of the article isn't really valid. I don't know what to do about it, (I mean, I think we should remove that citation, but what do we replace it with?) 66.193.45.162 (talk) 20:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I made the same observation. This is highly problematic, as such a reference doesn't validate anything. Looking at the discussion above 1) that source has been pointed out as problematic before, as open for edits and not giving clear sources 2) earlier on, it seems to not have referenced Wikipedia. I'll add a template as a warning. 786r (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil[edit]

I think the "total" section is new and that it is quite useless if only 5-6 countries have a number and 150 or so don't... and than Brazil... Population estimate for 2016/2017: ~207 million, 249 vehicles per 1000 is almost exactly 1/4 or 25% ... but "total" is 35,601,099 ... when I divide over 200 million / 4 I get over 50 million, means over 15 million cars are missing.... Kilon22 (talk) 03:24, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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China[edit]

The data from China seems way inacurate. If we go to the wiki page in Chinese , then the source is different and gives 141 cars per 1000 people. This is due to the fact the current source includes 2-wheelers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bligching512 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On introduction of the article says China has biggest market (not country) but isn't, EU as a whole is way bigger, and maybe US was still bigger than China at 2018, nor 2019 (because still no data until year ends). vehicles per capita can be wrong too.--Manlleus (talk) 19:52, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2015 data here[edit]

http://www.oica.net/wp-content/uploads//Total_in-use-All-Vehicles.pdf can give updated info for a lot of these. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.249.23.158 (talk) 07:29, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merging References[edit]

In this article, under the reference section, references numbered 9 to 12, 14 to 22, 24 to 31, 34 to 36, 38, 43 and 44 contains the same link. So, can those links be grouped together by same name for these references?Adithyak1997 (talk) 06:41, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Eurostat as a source, anonymous user deleting my edits[edit]

Eurostat is a legitimate source. The Data gets updated regularly. Eurodata has also data about the number of registered cars but I didn't add them. Hence the claim by the anonymous user who is constantly deleting my edit with updated 2017 data from Eurostat is wrong.

Before the list got it's data nationmaster.com with the source being this page. Many countries still have numbers with no sources?

Columns[edit]

This table needs a new column Total number of cars And The Total column needs to be renamed as total population At present the data is mixed up in the column — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digmen1 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New source for car ownership in ASEAN countries; from ASEANstats[edit]

Found a new source for statistics on car ownership in ASEAN on a yearly basis, on ASEANstats. Asking for someone to search up the ASEANstats car ownership page, verify its authenticity, and update the current numbers from the official page. Don't have the time at the moment to update it myself. Fazley01 (talk) 21:43, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gibraltar[edit]

The cited source for Gibraltar states that the data includes motorbike usage: [Transport Minister] "Remember too that the figures I'm presenting include not just cars but motorbikes and lorries and vans and all sorts of vehicles which are used for commercial purposes." I believe the official government report of this exchange for the purposes of clarification has not yet been published, that is the parliamentary session for the 21st of December 2022. (https://www.parliament.gi/proceedings-of-parliament/hansard?year=2022) This has been reported on by the local press, which states that the number of motorbikes is around 9,600, which would alter Gibraltar's placement in the list, although a concrete source should be found for this. Cselkcess (talk) 10:08, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Link to local press report: https://www.gbc.gi/news/wikipedia-points-gibraltar-having-highest-vehicle-ownership-capita-world-anomalies-warp-stats Cselkcess (talk) 11:00, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Separate columns for credible sources covering multiple countries[edit]

Cars are counted differently by different entities (including: what types of cars are included). Current table mixes methodologies in a single column. Many countries come from articles with little credibility (even behind paywall). E.g. for EU the best source is Eurostat.

Next to current "mix" column, this table should have separate columns for methodologies/sources covering multiple countries where values come from a coherent methodology. KPiotr (talk) 17:40, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wales, Scotland, United Kingdom etc[edit]

If Wales, Scotland, United Kingdom (etc) are both included in the table is that not double counting? For example Wales is currently number 28 and also part of number 36 the United Kingdom. Surely it should be one or the other, or perhaps both is included but only one is given a distinct number. Dunk the Lunk (talk) 17:20, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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