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Political Position[edit]

I don't understand why Liberal Party of Australia is listed Centre-Right rather than " Centre-Right to Right-Wing " just like Conservative Party of Canada and Conservative Party (UK) given the large influence from National Right? Mhaot (talk) 04:54, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, this is a discussion that needs to be had, while I oppose your edit for bypassing the previous discussion above on this page where people were opposing the addition of right-wing to their political position, I will not be reverting it because you have sourced your changes (I personally at this time support the addition of right-wing to their political position based on leadership factors, however my opinion is utterly irrelevant, only the opinion of qualified journalists and political scientists matter for this subject, hence why we source them). I also note that the Conservative Party of Canada and the Conservative & Unionist Party are not relevant to this discussion, we must discuss and source only local political views for the Liberal party and should not be bound to modifying the Liberal's political positions to reflect that of other Commonwealth countries, after all we are our own independent nation with our own political system. Comfisofa (talk) 16:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not right-wing[edit]

Stop putting "Centre-right to right-wing" in the infobox. This is the Liberal Party, not the Republican Party. It is centre-right. These edits are clearly just Labor/Greens bias. I have decided not to remove it myself because whenever I fix a typo it gets reverted because of the other edit. Someone else remove it.

This isn't an extremely conservative party. Right-wing makes no sense. May as well put "Centre-left to left-wing" in the Labor Party's infobox given they are centre-left but if we're calling one party extreme we have to call the other one extreme. 37.0.81.236 (talk) 21:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, we have consensus a million times that says don't put factions in the infobox. 37.0.81.236 (talk) 21:35, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@37.0.81.236 Reliable sources call it right wing. If you have reliable sources that Labor is far left, go to the Labor article and do that. commemorative (talk) 03:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please refer to the billion other times this has been raised in the talk page archives J2m5 (talk) 03:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The term "right-wing" doesn't denote an extreme position. An extreme right position would be "far-right". Reliable sources refer to the Liberal party as "right-wing" and therefore so can we. If you think that is problematic start an RfC about it, but this has been discussed a lot. TarnishedPath^talk 07:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1) "Right Wing" is not the same as the "Far Right" as mentioned by TarnishedPath

2) The reason why ALP isn't listed as "centre-left" to "left-wing" is because party is not socially "Broad-church" and only a bit economically broad chuch so they don't allow left wing populist in the party.

3) The right-wing populist faction National Right has made significant influence in their policy making

4) Conservative Party of Canada and UK is listed as "centre-right" to "right-wing" too and they both too have their right-wing populist factions having significant influence. 49.185.197.233 (talk) 04:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plenty of commentators have suggested that the Liberal Party now is more right wing than it has ever been. HiLo48 (talk) 05:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Dutton is the furthest right politician in a major position for decades. The liberals are right-wing, as under their current leadership they oppose same-sex marriage. 120.21.77.25 (talk) 10:09, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Liberals are now Right-wing[edit]

Currently, the Liberals are ruled under a supermajority by their hard right factions, their leader, Peter Dutton, is the furthest right in decades, and he is arguably homophobic (opinion, but he rejects same-sex marriage). The party has also been reviewed by politicalcompass.org , one of the most credible websites for politics in this day and age. They put the Liberals at Far-Right authoritarian, but currently Australian politics are skewed to the left of the U.S.A and other Western nations, so it is best to call it Right-wing. 120.21.77.25 (talk) 10:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just quickly chiming in to say politicalcompass.org is in no way reliable and has had some insane takes on the positioning of political parties over the years. — Czello ^(music) 10:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See prev talk entries on this very topic J2m5 (talk) 10:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Liberal is Far-Right, they aren't fascist nor racist. However, Dutton and the National Right have become the majority within the party, and the other factions are now very weak in comparison. I would be bias if it was allowed (talk) 12:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]