Talk:Laurence Harvey/Archive 1

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Archive 1

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Removed information from Anonymous User:81.192.140.195. Source quoted is speculative information with facts to support it and does not meet any of the criteria for Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Reliable sources, and does not meet Wikipedia Encyclopedic Standards. Note that this is the same Anonymous user who also fabricted information and inserted unfounded information into articles on Nick Adams and Elvis Presley. Ted Wilkes 29 June 2005 17:29 (UTC)

Tidy-up

Good that this article has undergone some changes since the last time I saw it, a few months back. The version then was far too sympathetic to Harvey, trying to make out he was some sort of great actor and a Hollywood megastar, overlooking the fact that he was assumed to be British by many, was often derided for his one-note performances, was clearly sexually ambiguous and treated the women in his life badly. It may have been the work of his sister-in-law, her print biography of him is equally sycophantic. Who remembers him now, apart from that Columbo episode and old black and white films on afternoon telly? Alec Guinness he wasn't. Dolmance (talk) 18:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Misinformation/Inaccuracy/"Nonsense"?

Toward the end of the Laurence Harvey article there is a paragraph quoting an actor/author named John Fraser who wrote that Harvey was gay. Part of the Fraser quote states that Harvey was married to Margaret Leighton (1957 - 1961) and says she was "old enough to be his mother." This apparently is supposed to in some way support Fraser's contention that Harvey was gay. In truth, Margaret Leighton was born in February 1922 (according to IMDB, Geocities, and Women's International Center), and Laurence Harvey was born in October 1928. Obviously with only a 6 year age difference, Leighton was not old enough to be Harvey's mother. I suggest you drop entire John Fraser quote from the Harvey article. The above fact makes it clear that Fraser was either uninformed or inclined to extreme exaggeration and is, in any case, an unreliable source of information on either Laurence Harvey or Margaret Leighton. Mr. Harvey was an accomplished and respected actor who deserves better (as does the equally gifted and Oscar-nominated Ms. Leighton). 12.106.37.62 00:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC) The fact that Laurence Harvey was an "accomplished and respected actor" as you put it, does not in any way disprove the allegation that he was gay. Your assertion that it does simply demonstrates that you are homophobic... your statement strongly implies that to be gay disqualifies one from being a good actor !! What nonesense. You are wrong in another sense as well. Laurence Harvey was not, as you put it, a respected actor. Critics loved to pan his work. I happen to disagree with most critics. I thought Laurence Harvey WAS a good actor, with far more range than he was given credit for, and more depth. You simply have to see him in "Room at the Top" to know his acting ability... his performance is equal to that of Simone Signoret, and that's saying a lot, because her performance was brilliant, and oscar winning. And, I might add, Laurence Harvey had a a tremendous amount of screen charisma and sex appeal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.91.83.117 (talk) 04:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

The fact that Laurence Harvey was an "accomplished and respected actor" as you put it, does not in any way disprove the allegation that he was gay. Your assertion that it does simply demonstrates that you are homophobic... your statement strongly implies that to be gay disqualifies one from being a good actor !! What nonesense. You are wrong in another sense as well. Laurence Harvey was not, as you put it, a "respected actor". Critics loved to pan his work. I happen to disagree with the critics though. I thought Laurence Harvey WAS a good actor, with far more range than he was given credit for, and more depth. You simply have to see him in "Room at the Top" to know his acting ability... his performance is equal to that of Simone Signoret, and that's saying a lot, because her performance was brilliant, and oscar winning. And, I might add, Laurence Harvey had a a tremendous amount of screen charisma and sex appeal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.91.83.117 (talk) 04:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Death?

Laurence died quite young. Can we get some information as to why he did? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.109.186.127 (talk) 06:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

According to several web pages he died of stomach cancer.Count de Ville 01:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I guess that that information is not worth including in the article.Lestrade 21:34, 17 June 2007 (UTC)Lestrade

Zvi Mosheh (Hirsh) Skikne

According to this article, Laurence Harvey's real name was Zvi Mosheh (Hirsh) Skokne. Can anyone source this? Every other article on the web about him gives his real name as Laruschka Mischa Skikne. Also, could anyone get a better photo of him to put in the infobox?Count de Ville 01:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, while Zvi and Moshe are Hebrew names, Larushka and Misha are just Russian diminutives of Lavrentiy and Mikhail. Neither Hebrew nor Russian names are likely to have appeared in a Lithuanian birth certificate of 1928.

208.87.248.162 (talk) 18:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Picture caption: "Harvey in 1974"?

Someone needs to verify when that picture was taken... I seriously doubt it was a year after his death. Nora nettlerash (talk) 22:53, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

The Old Cause

I see that the Wikipedia Gay Lobby has been able to insert its gossip and innuendo successfully in this article ("It is indisputable from numerous accounts that Laurence Harvey was bisexual"). The strategy is to make homosexuality, which is an immature, juvenile phase of life for some people, seem normal as adult behavior. The tactic is to insinuate that many famous people are homosexual. Of course, most of these insinuations are mere unprovable rumor, from what are vaguely called "numerous accounts." Who has real, concrete, positive proof that Laurence Harvey was homosexual? No one.Lestrade 21:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)Lestrade

His being James Woolf's lover and manipulator was mentioned by David Shipman in his books THE STORY OF CINEMA and THE GREAT MOVIE STARS, and in Cliff Goodwin's biography of Sid James, as well as in the autobiography of TV producer Peter Graham Scott. Dolmance (talk) 18:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

His biography at Allmovie.com says Harvey was actually a hustler in his younger days, although I don't know if that is considered a "reliable source".Muzilon (talk) 01:26, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

"Harvey Nichols" name source

I read Harvey quoted (cannot find the source now) as saying he took his name from Lawrence of Arabia and the shop, Harvey Nichols because he thought they were so undeniably English. Can anyone confirm? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.165.237.78 (talk) November 6, 2012

Done. — Maile (talk) 15:28, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

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POV

I am in the process of adding refrences and clean up. This article suffers from negative and unsourced cherry picked POV throughout. — Maile (talk) 15:28, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Original Name

The difference between the original name by which he called himself, Laruschka Mischa Skikne, and the name Zvi Mosheh Skikne is simply the difference between a Jew's civil name and his Hebrew name. The article ought to not to phrase the difference as though Harvey had proffered a lie about himself. .

208.87.248.162 (talk) 03:09, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Feel free to edit the section that you think needs corrected. — Maile (talk) 23:51, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

"couple was" vs. "couple were"

Neither is incorrect. Use of the singular with collective nouns is more typical of American English; use of the plural, British. Kostaki mou (talk) 18:49, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Rent boy

Why is there no mention of the fact that Harvey admitted working as a male prostitute before he became famous? (2.103.233.183 (talk) 18:20, 24 October 2014 (UTC))

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