Talk:Latin tenses in commands (semantics)

Improvements required by User Kanjuzi[edit]

You asked this page be removed because:

1. most of this article is copied directly from the article Latin tenses,

2. statements such as "Commands have no primary tense" are controversial and unreferenced,

3. categories such as "present in future", "past in future" appear to be inventions by the author and not referenced to any grammar book or other source,

4. categories such as "Imperative III" etc. appear to be inventions by the author and not referenced to any grammar book or other source,

5. the article is not needed since most of the material has already been published elsewhere on Wikipedia.

My edit proposal is the following:

A. Point 5 is not true since there is no page in Wikipedia that describes tense in commands from a semantic perspective. I propose to change the title to "Latin tenses in commands (semantics)" to make this explicit. Would you agree?

B. The categories presented in Point 3 (as we just discussed in the article about Latin tenses (semantics)) are not my inventions, but you are right that the references are missing in this article. The category in Point 4 was just a numbering. I will replace that by a section number and use a more descriptive name.

C. The statement about "commands not having a primary tense" demands from the reader an understanding of what a primary tense is, which you seem not to know. This is the only possible reason for you to think this statement is controversial. Since Wikipedia readers do not need to know what a primary tense is, I will add the definition here like I did in the introduction of the article Latin tenses (semantics). Do you find that definition clear enough?

D. As for the point 1, I promise you I will do my best to make the content be referenced enough and cited enough for this page to have a legitmate reason to exist.

Can you please leave your comments from now on as requests for improvement instead of as requests for deletion? There is someone on this planet that, like you, wants to make Wikipedia better and wants to make the state-of-the-art in Latin studies available online. Daniel Couto Vale (talk) 14:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Action checklist:

A. title changed

B1. definition of tense categories included

B2. definition of polarity categories (positive/negative) not included

B3. definition of speech directness categories (direct/indirect) not included

C. after definition of tense, controversy does not exist

D. not all statements referenced