Talk:Latin indirect speech

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Requested move 17 June 2019[edit]

Oratio obliqua → Indirect speech (Latin) – I think the English title will be easier for students to find Kanjuzi (talk) 18:17, 17 June 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. — Newslinger talk 06:02, 25 June 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. — Newslinger talk 03:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kanjuzi: Many who know Latin will likely object here. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:29, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Seems like redirects accomplish the goal of making the article easier to find. Normally we would use as the title whichever term is most commonly used in RS. Do you think that's 'indirect speech' rather than oratio obliqua? Colin M (talk) 22:53, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I should very much like to know what others think about this. This page gets only half as many pageviews as my other articles on Greek and Latin grammar; for example, Subjunctive (Ancient Greek) gets 16 views a day, Latin tenses 23, Latin word order 30, this one only 10 or 11. One or two friends whom I consulted about thought that maybe "Indirect Speech" would be the way that modern students would be more likely to search for the page. The term "Oratio obliqua" is not as common as it was. Kanjuzi (talk) 05:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
WP:USEENGLISH comes to mind here: "The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language..." (This is not a support or oppose.) --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 23:17, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Google ngrams shows that 'oratio obliqua' was more common in the 1880s, but since 1960 the terms 'indirect speech' and 'reported speech' have become much more common. Kanjuzi (talk) 05:01, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
However, if you look at the excerpts from google books search results for those phrases, most of the results for 'oratio obliqua' are related to Latin grammar. The other two phrases give works related to linguistics, but I'm not seeing anything on Latin grammar. Colin M (talk) 05:20, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how you would find out which term Latin students favour. Perhaps I could pose the question on the Classics Library website. Kanjuzi (talk) 05:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since there appear to be no strong objections, I have changed the title to 'Latin indirect speech', which matches the title of another article I submitted, 'Latin tenses'. Kanjuzi (talk) 14:40, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]