Talk:Kuroko's Basketball

Kuroko no Basuke, Kuroko no Basket or Kuroko's Basketball?

What's the correct title? I think Kuroko's Basketball is wrong since it's a unnofficial translation; if アイシールド21 is written as Eyeshield 21 instead Aishīrudo Nijūichi, 黒子のバスケ shouldn't be written Kuroko no Basket instead Kuroko no Basuke? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 22:36, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Crunchyroll and Anime News Network use Kuroko's Basketball for the anime version: http://www.crunchyroll.com/kurokos-basketball http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/kuroko-basketball/episodes-1 --Mika1h (talk) 01:36, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Use Kuroko's Basketball, while noting it's original title is Kuroko no Basket in Japan with a literal translation. If I remember right, the Japanese gave an English name, "The Basketball which Kuroko Plays"; note that too if it's true. It's what I did for Case Closed. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 02:05, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hmm.. so, it would look like: Kuroko's Basketball (黒子のバスケ, Kuroko no Basuke, officially translated as The Basketball which Kuroko Plays), but ANN isn't a official source and I know that when the manga is licensed always is better to use this name like Case Closed instead Mentantei Conan, but this applies in this case where Crunchyroll has only streamed the series? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 02:35, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, it is legally licensed by crunchyroll so I guess that might be good enough. For the Japanese title, I would use Nihongo3 to show the romaji first. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:05, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Since it was licensed as Kuroko's Basketball, and the romanization is Kuroko no Basket as I explaned above, and in some Japanese products are written The Basketball which Kuroko Plays, I put Kuroko's Basketball, known as Kuroko no Basket (黒子のバスケ, Kuroko no Basuke, officially translated as The Basketball which Kuroko Plays). Can I move the page for Kuroko's Basketball since it's the licensed title? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 04:41, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, you can move it. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:34, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I've been un-involved in this discussion; however, I have been following it (the page is on my watchlist). Since there appears to be some consensus to move the page, I've done so. If anyone disagrees, please feel free to revert. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 06:10, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I can't see any basis for claiming that the romanised version of the Japanese name is "Kuroko no basket". The Japanese word for basketball is (using double vowels for so-called "long vowels") basukettobooru. As is usual, this is a direct transliteration, but comes out at 8 moras, roughly twice the length of the original English three syllables -- so it gets abbreviated to the first three, basuke. This is pronounced roughly as though it were the "baske-" beginning of "basketball", and incidentally this abbreviation is absolutely standard as the informal word for basketball. The English word "basket" in katakana is of course basuketto, and there is no earthly reason to imagine a sort of French pronounciation of "Basket" with no 't' at the end, so in no sense is basket part of a valid romanisation. Imaginatorium (talk) 13:54, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

What's your sugestion? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 21:26, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I think he's suggesting to avoid anything that might indicate Kuroko no Basket as an official romanization, so the intro would be like "Kuroko's Basketball, known in Japan as Kuroko no Basuke (黒子のバスケ, lit. Kuroko's Basket, officially translated as The Basketball which Kuroko Plays) is ..." DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 23:17, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Is it ok now? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 02:15, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

No, it wasn't. I just re-reverted this to the correct Hepburn romanisation of the Japanese, following the WP standard. I don't know what "official romanisation" would mean: romanisation either follows a standard scheme (of which there are a number, most commonly Hepburn), or is just ad hoc. I think it is probably fair to say that the vast majority of the Japanese-speaking population is totally clueless about the idea, so if "official" means "written on a Japanese website", then it's almost the opposite of what you want. Imaginatorium (talk) 05:40, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

I just reworded the introduction, and removed the "officially translated as The Basketball which Kuroko Plays" bit for the moment. Can someone give a reference for this? If the Japanese monolingual company wrote this on its Japanese monolingual packaging, it seems fine to make a note of it, but "official" is simply not the right word. (I do not speak Russian. If I decide to call my website имагинаториюм, is this more "official" than something written by someone who can actually speak Russian?) Imaginatorium (talk) 05:48, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

"The Basketball which Kuroko Plays" is the official title that the Japanese people chose ([1], [2]). About the offical name it isn't written it's the correct, just the official; and if you want to put a note in the article, go ahead and do this. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 06:24, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Seems like "Kuroko's Basketball" is the most "official" one, as it's the title used by officially licensed streams.--Atlantima (talk) 21:24, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Supposed co-writer

I have removed the highly suspicious claims of a co-writer called "Neil Anthony Ramos Novilla": these are unsupported by evidence, and there is no sign of such a person (who would surely be remarkable) in ja:WP. Imaginatorium (talk) 14:51, 31 March 2014

Requested move 22 September 2015

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The result of the move request was: not moved. The consensus is that the current title is the most common name in English reliable sources. Jenks24 (talk) 21:28, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

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Kuroko's Basketball → The Basketball Which Kuroko Plays – Official English title. – Article editor (talk) 21:17, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

• @Article editor: See above. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:35, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose If you simply look at the references section, you will see that the overwhelming majority of English-language sources refer to the work as Kuroko's Basketball, so it is the common name. The second most common name to that is actually Kuroko no Basuke. At no point does any of those sources use The Basketball Which Kuroko Plays. The nominator has not provided any reliable English-language sources that demonstrating that the work is known by that title and the provided link to an "official source" is actually an edit on Japanese-language Wikipedia. —Farix (t | c) 23:58, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose As per comments above. 「THE BASKETBALL WHICH KUROKO PLAYS」 may be the "official" Japanese 英語, but this is part of the Japanese language version; it is written by Japanese speakers, to be seen (but not of course actually read) by Japanese readers, as a necessary piece of decoration. It has nothing to do with what English speakers might call the series, for which the evidence is overwhelming. Imaginatorium (talk) 09:05, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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