Talk:Kinston Indians/GA1

GA Reassessment

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Starting GA reassessment as part of the GA Sweeps process. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:22, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, listed below. I will check back in seven days. If these issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far.

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   Lead needs expanding to fully summarise the article as per WP:LEAD.

   Baseball has been popular in Kinston since the late nineteenth century, and it fielded many excellent amateur clubs. Rewrite to corect grammar.

   The other racial pioneer for Kinston baseball was Frank Washington, a holdover from the 1955 Burlington team. Kinston's owner was an inept businessman who brought the club near bankruptcy before it was moved to Wilson in 1957. Rather abrupt change in subject between the two sentences.

   Recommend a thorough copy-edit to improve style, which is uneven and flows badly.

   Phrases such as The senior Smeraldo has entered his fifteenth season of tending to the home clubhouse while his son takes care of the needs of the visiting team in their clubhouse., obviously written at some time in the post. Is he now in 16th or 17th season. Better to rewrite in an undated manner, such as ""The senior Smeraldo started tending to the clubhouse in 19??. There are a number of other dated sentences such asThe Kinston Indians are currently managed.

   The Indians' mascot is a dog named Scout. Scout can usually be found in an Indians jersey and baseball cap, but has also been known to don a Superman t-shirt or an aloha shirt depending on the antics he is performing. Scout replaced an earlier Native American mascot who was named Tom E. Hawk.[42] Although Tom E. Hawk no longer greets fans in person at the ballpark, he can still be seen in several of the official logos on much of the team merchandise. His broadly smiling visage is very reminiscent of Cleveland's Chief Wahoo. Completely un-encyclopaedic, full of POV phrasing.

   Look out for typos like Among the members of these 1920's Eagles teams 1920s doesn't have a possessive apostrophe.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   Assume good faith for all offline sources.

   I fixed two dead links using WP:CHECKLINKS

   Online sources appear to be RS

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   OK, the lead needs expansing and the rpose needs a good overall to make it erasonably good, expanding and the prose needs a thorough overhaul to make it reasonably good. At present it is uneven and not very well written. On hold for seven days for improvements to be made, major contributors and projects will be notified

   Apart from a comment about my dyslexic wfriting style there have been no attempts to improve the artcile so I am de-listing it. When these issues have been addressed, it can be re-nominated at WP:GAN. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

"OK, the lead needs expansing and the pose needs a good overall to make it erasonably good." For posting this sentence while standing in judgment of the writing abilities of others, I award you the Golden Irony barnstar. Congrats! 98.121.178.250 (talk) 00:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out my dyslexia. Are you interested in fixing up the article? Jezhotwells (talk) 09:01, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I believe I addressed all the issues except one:

The Indians' mascot is a dog named Scout. Scout can usually be found in an Indians jersey and baseball cap, but has also been known to don a Superman t-shirt or an aloha shirt depending on the antics he is performing. Scout replaced an earlier Native American mascot who was named Tom E. Hawk.[42] Although Tom E. Hawk no longer greets fans in person at the ballpark, he can still be seen in several of the official logos on much of the team merchandise. His broadly smiling visage is very reminiscent of Cleveland's Chief Wahoo. Completely un-encyclopaedic, full of POV phrasing.

I fail to see how any of the quoted section is POV. It's just stating the facts. Kinston eagle (talk) 01:34, 19 December 2010 (UTC)