Talk:June Barrow-Green

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Notability[edit]

All British professors meet PROF. --Fæ (talk) 10:30, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry i don't understand how ALL British professors can automatically meet PROF, do they not have to fulfill one of the following criteria or the GNG?

1. The person's research has made significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.

2. The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.

3. The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the IEEE).[2]

4. The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions.

5. The person holds or has held a named chair appointment or distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research (or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon).

6. The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.

7. The person has made substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity.

8. The person is or has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area.

9. The person is in a field of literature (e.g., writer or poet) or the fine arts (e.g., musician, composer, artist), and meets the standards for notability in that art, such as WP:CREATIVE or WP:MUSIC.

I'm not contesting this particular professor but I couldn't find any reference in the notability criteria about British professors. Domdeparis (talk) 14:38, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It used to be accepted practice, solving the confusion that Americans and Europeans have about British titles; there are probably old discussions on the notability talk archives that have thrashed it out. "Professor" for all UK academic institutions counts as the most senior title for an academic, separate from functionary roles. Basically it's impossible to not have met 3, 4, 5 and probably 6 if they are a British Professor (or an Emeritus). --Fæ (talk) 14:44, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dug something out, see Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(academics)/Archive_7#UK.2FUSA_Professor_difference for a discussion a few years ago. It may be worth raising it again, however as a rule of thumb, we just do not see BLPs on British Professors ever getting deleted. --Fæ (talk) 14:51, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that, it might be worth suggesting that the title of Professor from a UK University as a criteria in PROF. that might rub some of the other nationalities up the wrong way though. That said as you suggest any UK professor will fulfill the other criteria anyway and any sources will point to this. Domdeparis (talk) 15:45, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]