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Q1: Why don't you state pornography addiction as fact?

A1: Our policies on Wikipedia, in particular WP:WEIGHT and WP:FRINGE, require us to provide coverage to views based on their prominence within reliable sources, and we must reflect the opinion of the scientific community as accurately as possible. For example, if the APA will include pornography addiction in the DSM, then Wikipedia will rubber-stamp its decision. Otherwise, Wikipedia isn't here to give a "fair and balanced" treatment to your pet ideas. In this respect, Wikipedia is merely a mirror which reflects medical orthodoxy. There is no official document from WHO, AMA, APA, Cochrane or APA which would imply that sex/porn/masturbation addiction would be a valid diagnosis. (CSBD isn't an addiction.) See also WP:CHOPSY: WP:EXTRAORDINARY applies to giving the lie to those six very reputable universities, especially when they all toe the same line.

Q2: Why don't you state that erototoxins exist?

A2: Because the terms "erototoxin" and "erotoxin" are completely absent from PubMed^[1]^[2]^[3] and therefore not a subject of scientific research by anyone, from right to left, from conservative to liberal, and from mainstream researcher to quackademic. And the very few mentions of "erotoxin" at JSTOR and EBSCO are in fact OCR-errors (misspelled "crotoxin", "miserotoxin", "enterotoxin") or figurative language (which does not denote a real chemical substance).

Q3: Did her strategy convince SCOTUS?

A3: In at least three SCOTUS cases, amicus briefs authored by Reisman and blaming Kinsey were on the losing side. While Reisman cannot be blamed for losing the cases, her arguments were definitely unconvincing to SCOTUS judges; they sided with Kinseyan (i.e. mainstream) science, not with Reisman's criticism thereof.^[4]^[5]^[6]^[7]^[8]

Q4: Why don't you state that porn use is paraphilia (pictophilia)?

A4: The majority of US men use porn.^[9]^[10]^[11]^[12]^[13] What the majority does is axiomatically clinically normal in psychiatry. According to The Huffington Post, 70% of men and 30% of women watch porn.^[14] Quite probably, the majority of US population between ages 18 and 35 use porn at least once a week.^[15] Conclusion? The people who say porn use is paraphilia should suck it up and be a man: they lost the debate, so they should quit whining. DSM-5 code for pornography use? Not any. ICD-10 code for pornography use? Not any. ICD-11 code for pornography use? Not any. So, of course it isn't paraphilia. Even allowing that an excessive obsession with porn is paraphilia, normal (ordinary) porn use isn't.

Q5: Is there a correlation between the Kinseyan sexual revolution and an increase in pedophilia?

A5: Yes, there is a correlation, but it is the opposite of what Reisman claimed: pedophiles had most to lose (not win) from the sexual revolution.^[16] So, LGBT+ won, pedophiles lost.

Q6: Why don't you state that pornography increases sexual aggression?

A6: Our policies on Wikipedia, in particular WP:WEIGHT and WP:FRINGE, require us to provide coverage to views based on their prominence within reliable sources, and we must reflect the opinion of the scientific community as accurately as possible. Crime statistics make the claim highly unlikely, and per WP:EXTRAORDINARY multiple, independent and very strong WP:MEDRS-compliant sources are required in order to overturn long-standing medical consensus, see also WP:RS/AC. Otherwise, Wikipedia isn't here to give a "fair and balanced" treatment to your pet ideas. In this respect, Wikipedia is merely a mirror which reflects medical orthodoxy.

Does Malamuth say that pornography increases sexual aggression? Nope, that's a misreading of his papers, as he himself declared to Quartz publication.^[17]

Q7: Is the article biased against conspiracy theories?

A7: Wikipedia is a mainstream encyclopedia so this article presents the accepted version of the events according to reliable sources. Although reliable sources have repeatedly reported on conspiracy theories, reporting on conspiracy theories is not the same thing as advocating conspiracy theories or accepting them as fact. If you disagree with the current status, you are welcome to bring your concerns to the article talk page. Please try to explain how your viewpoint provides new arguments or information that may lead to a change in consensus. Please be sure to be polite and support your views with citations from reliable sources.

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References

^ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=erototoxin
^ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=erotoxin
^ A court a law cannot consider it libelous, since it is true. It's both truthful and publicly known (anyone who performs the search can find out that it is true; it is neither a secret nor a privacy violation).
^ "Supreme Court Sodomy Decision Based on Junk Science". Gay & Lesbian Archives of the Pacific Northwest. 18 July 2004. Retrieved 16 September 2021.
^ Reisman, Judith (August 2003). "Sodomy Decision Based On Fraudulent 'Science'". humaneventsonline.com. Archived from the original on 15 February 2006. Retrieved 16 September 2021.
^ Carmon, Irin (24 April 2015). "Here are the wildest arguments against marriage equality". MSNBC.com. Retrieved 16 September 2021. Cf. the primary source "BRIEF OF AMICI CURIAE DR. JUDITH REISMAN AND LIBERTY CENTER FOR CHILD PROTECTION IN SUPPORT OF RESPONDENTS" (PDF). 3 April 2015.
^ "How the transgender agenda harms children » MercatorNet". MercatorNet. 21 February 2017. Retrieved 17 September 2021.
^ "Grimm v. Gloucester County School Board". American Civil Liberties Union. 11 August 2021. Retrieved 17 September 2021.
^ Stone, Lyman (26 June 2019). "Conservative Protestant Men Are Still Resisting Porn". Christianity Today. Carol Stream, Illinois. ISSN 0009-5753. Archived from the original on 27 June 2019. Retrieved 31 July 2021. By contrast, Protestant men today who attend church regularly are basically the only men in America still resisting the cultural norm of regularized pornography use.
^ Brenner, Grant Hilary (19 February 2018). "When Is Porn Use a Problem?". Psychology Today. Retrieved 18 September 2021.
^ Ritzenhoff, Karen A.; Hermes, Katherine A. (2009). Sex and Sexuality in a Feminist World. EBSCO ebook academic collection. Cambridge Scholars. p. 102. ISBN 978-1-4438-0426-4.
^ Grubbs, Joshua B.; Perry, Samuel L.; Grant Weinandy, Jennifer T.; Kraus, Shane W. (19 July 2021). "Porndemic? A Longitudinal Study of Pornography Use Before and During the COVID-19 Pandemic in a Nationally Representative Sample of Americans". Archives of sexual behavior. Springer Science and Business Media LLC. doi:10.1007/s10508-021-02077-7. ISSN 0004-0002. PMC 8288831. PMID 34282505. At baseline, 43.4% of participants reported not having viewed pornography in the past year and 38% of participants reported using pornography, on average, at least once per month (59% of men and 21% of women).
^ Regnerus, Mark; Gordon, David; Price, Joseph (18 December 2015). "Documenting Pornography Use in America: A Comparative Analysis of Methodological Approaches". The Journal of Sex Research. 53 (7). Informa UK Limited: 873–881. doi:10.1080/00224499.2015.1096886. ISSN 0022-4499. If estimates generated from the RIA or NFSS are more valid, then pornography use is—or perhaps has become—a common and frequent experience among men, with just under half of all men using pornography in an average week. It is also not an uncommon or infrequent occurrence for women, with nearly one in five reporting pornography use in the past week.
^
Kleinman, Alexis (4 May 2013). "Porn Sites Get More Visitors Than Netflix, Amazon And Twitter Combined". HuffPost. Retrieved 18 September 2021. Sources:
1. Carroll, Jason S.; Padilla-Walker, Laura M.; Nelson, Larry J.; Olson, Chad D.; McNamara Barry, Carolyn; Madsen, Stephanie D. (2008). "Generation XXX". Journal of Adolescent Research. 23 (1). SAGE Publications: 6–30. doi:10.1177/0743558407306348. ISSN 0743-5584.
  Blue, Violet (24 July 2009). "Are more women OK with watching porn?". CNN.com. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
  "One in three women watch porn - study - The Courier-Mail". news.com.au. 10 February 2010. Archived from the original on 14 February 2010. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
2. Edelman, Benjamin (1 January 2009). "Markets: Red Light States: Who Buys Online Adult Entertainment?" (PDF). Journal of Economic Perspectives. 23 (1). American Economic Association: 209–220. doi:10.1257/jep.23.1.209. ISSN 0895-3309.
  "Are the effects of pornography negligible? - UdeMNouvelles". nouvelles.umontreal.ca (in French). 1 December 2009. Archived from the original on 31 January 2013. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
3. https://web.archive.org/web/20130116164054/https://www.google.com/adplanner/static/top1000/
4. Hotsheet, Political (25 June 2010). "29% Accessed Porn on Work Computers Last Month - CBS News". Wayback Machine. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
  Leahy, Michael (2009). Porn @ Work: Exposing the Office's #1 Addiction. Moody Publishers. ISBN 978-1-57567-332-5.
5. Anthony, Sebastian (4 April 2012). "Just how big are porn sites?". ExtremeTech. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
^ Buchholz, Katharina (2019-02-11). "Infographic: How Much of the Internet Consists of Porn?". Statista Infographics. Retrieved 2022-08-11.
^ Paternotte, David (2014). "16. Pedophilia, Homosexuality and Gay and Lesbian Activism". In Hekma, Gert; Giami, Alain (eds.). Sexual Revolutions. Genders and Sexualities in History. Palgrave Macmillan UK. p. 264. ISBN 978-1-137-32146-6.
^ Goldhill, Olivia (7 March 2016). "Porn is like alcohol—whether it's bad for you depends on who you are". Quartz. Retrieved 18 February 2019.

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According to WP:RSP, PinkNews is in green. No indication that it would be Marxist, Stalinist, Maoist, or something like that. Therefore calling it a "far-left newspaper" is a violation of WP:NPOV. tgeorgescu (talk) 13:55, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=erototoxin

[2] ttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=erotoxin

[3] A court a law cannot consider it libelous, since it is true. It's both truthful and publicly known (anyone who performs the search can find out that it is true; it is neither a secret nor a privacy violation).

[Gay_&_Lesbian_Archives_of_the_Pacific_Northwest_2004-4] "Supreme Court Sodomy Decision Based on Junk Science". Gay & Lesbian Archives of the Pacific Northwest. 18 July 2004. Retrieved 16 September 2021.

[humaneventsonline.com_2006-5] Reisman, Judith (August 2003). "Sodomy Decision Based On Fraudulent 'Science'". humaneventsonline.com. Archived from the original on 15 February 2006. Retrieved 16 September 2021.

[MSNBC.com_2015-6] Carmon, Irin (24 April 2015). "Here are the wildest arguments against marriage equality". MSNBC.com. Retrieved 16 September 2021. Cf. the primary source "BRIEF OF AMICI CURIAE DR. JUDITH REISMAN AND LIBERTY CENTER FOR CHILD PROTECTION IN SUPPORT OF RESPONDENTS" (PDF). 3 April 2015.

[MercatorNet_2017-7] "How the transgender agenda harms children » MercatorNet". MercatorNet. 21 February 2017. Retrieved 17 September 2021.

[American_Civil_Liberties_Union_2021-8] "Grimm v. Gloucester County School Board". American Civil Liberties Union. 11 August 2021. Retrieved 17 September 2021.

[Stone_2019-9] Stone, Lyman (26 June 2019). "Conservative Protestant Men Are Still Resisting Porn". Christianity Today. Carol Stream, Illinois. ISSN 0009-5753. Archived from the original on 27 June 2019. Retrieved 31 July 2021. By contrast, Protestant men today who attend church regularly are basically the only men in America still resisting the cultural norm of regularized pornography use.

[Psychology_Today_2018-10] Brenner, Grant Hilary (19 February 2018). "When Is Porn Use a Problem?". Psychology Today. Retrieved 18 September 2021.

[Ritzenhoff_Hermes_2009_p._102-11] Ritzenhoff, Karen A.; Hermes, Katherine A. (2009). Sex and Sexuality in a Feminist World. EBSCO ebook academic collection. Cambridge Scholars. p. 102. ISBN 978-1-4438-0426-4.

[Grubbs_Perry_Grant_Weinandy_Kraus_p.-12] Grubbs, Joshua B.; Perry, Samuel L.; Grant Weinandy, Jennifer T.; Kraus, Shane W. (19 July 2021). "Porndemic? A Longitudinal Study of Pornography Use Before and During the COVID-19 Pandemic in a Nationally Representative Sample of Americans". Archives of sexual behavior. Springer Science and Business Media LLC. doi:10.1007/s10508-021-02077-7. ISSN 0004-0002. PMC 8288831. PMID 34282505. At baseline, 43.4% of participants reported not having viewed pornography in the past year and 38% of participants reported using pornography, on average, at least once per month (59% of men and 21% of women).

[Regnerus_Gordon_Price_pp._873–881-13] Regnerus, Mark; Gordon, David; Price, Joseph (18 December 2015). "Documenting Pornography Use in America: A Comparative Analysis of Methodological Approaches". The Journal of Sex Research. 53 (7). Informa UK Limited: 873–881. doi:10.1080/00224499.2015.1096886. ISSN 0022-4499. If estimates generated from the RIA or NFSS are more valid, then pornography use is—or perhaps has become—a common and frequent experience among men, with just under half of all men using pornography in an average week. It is also not an uncommon or infrequent occurrence for women, with nearly one in five reporting pornography use in the past week.

[Kleinman_2013-14] Kleinman, Alexis (4 May 2013). "Porn Sites Get More Visitors Than Netflix, Amazon And Twitter Combined". HuffPost. Retrieved 18 September 2021. Sources:
Carroll, Jason S.; Padilla-Walker, Laura M.; Nelson, Larry J.; Olson, Chad D.; McNamara Barry, Carolyn; Madsen, Stephanie D. (2008). "Generation XXX". Journal of Adolescent Research. 23 (1). SAGE Publications: 6–30. doi:10.1177/0743558407306348. ISSN 0743-5584.
Blue, Violet (24 July 2009). "Are more women OK with watching porn?". CNN.com. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
"One in three women watch porn - study - The Courier-Mail". news.com.au. 10 February 2010. Archived from the original on 14 February 2010. Retrieved 13 July 2022.

Edelman, Benjamin (1 January 2009). "Markets: Red Light States: Who Buys Online Adult Entertainment?" (PDF). Journal of Economic Perspectives. 23 (1). American Economic Association: 209–220. doi:10.1257/jep.23.1.209. ISSN 0895-3309.
"Are the effects of pornography negligible? - UdeMNouvelles". nouvelles.umontreal.ca (in French). 1 December 2009. Archived from the original on 31 January 2013. Retrieved 13 July 2022.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130116164054/https://www.google.com/adplanner/static/top1000/

Hotsheet, Political (25 June 2010). "29% Accessed Porn on Work Computers Last Month - CBS News". Wayback Machine. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
Leahy, Michael (2009). Porn @ Work: Exposing the Office's #1 Addiction. Moody Publishers. ISBN 978-1-57567-332-5.

Anthony, Sebastian (4 April 2012). "Just how big are porn sites?". ExtremeTech. Retrieved 13 July 2022.

[15] Carroll, Jason S.; Padilla-Walker, Laura M.; Nelson, Larry J.; Olson, Chad D.; McNamara Barry, Carolyn; Madsen, Stephanie D. (2008). "Generation XXX". Journal of Adolescent Research. 23 (1). SAGE Publications: 6–30. doi:10.1177/0743558407306348. ISSN 0743-5584.
Blue, Violet (24 July 2009). "Are more women OK with watching porn?". CNN.com. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
"One in three women watch porn - study - The Courier-Mail". news.com.au. 10 February 2010. Archived from the original on 14 February 2010. Retrieved 13 July 2022.

[16] Edelman, Benjamin (1 January 2009). "Markets: Red Light States: Who Buys Online Adult Entertainment?" (PDF). Journal of Economic Perspectives. 23 (1). American Economic Association: 209–220. doi:10.1257/jep.23.1.209. ISSN 0895-3309.
"Are the effects of pornography negligible? - UdeMNouvelles". nouvelles.umontreal.ca (in French). 1 December 2009. Archived from the original on 31 January 2013. Retrieved 13 July 2022.

[17] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20130116164054/https://www.google.com/adplanner/static/top1000/

[18] Hotsheet, Political (25 June 2010). "29% Accessed Porn on Work Computers Last Month - CBS News". Wayback Machine. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
Leahy, Michael (2009). Porn @ Work: Exposing the Office's #1 Addiction. Moody Publishers. ISBN 978-1-57567-332-5.

[19] Anthony, Sebastian (4 April 2012). "Just how big are porn sites?". ExtremeTech. Retrieved 13 July 2022.

[Buchholz_2019-15] Buchholz, Katharina (2019-02-11). "Infographic: How Much of the Internet Consists of Porn?". Statista Infographics. Retrieved 2022-08-11.

[Hekma_Giami_2014_p._264-16] Paternotte, David (2014). "16. Pedophilia, Homosexuality and Gay and Lesbian Activism". In Hekma, Gert; Giami, Alain (eds.). Sexual Revolutions. Genders and Sexualities in History. Palgrave Macmillan UK. p. 264. ISBN 978-1-137-32146-6.

[Goldhill_Goldhill_2016-17] Goldhill, Olivia (7 March 2016). "Porn is like alcohol—whether it's bad for you depends on who you are". Quartz. Retrieved 18 February 2019.

[23] Carroll, Jason S.; Padilla-Walker, Laura M.; Nelson, Larry J.; Olson, Chad D.; McNamara Barry, Carolyn; Madsen, Stephanie D. (2008). "Generation XXX". Journal of Adolescent Research. 23 (1). SAGE Publications: 6–30. doi:10.1177/0743558407306348. ISSN 0743-5584.
Blue, Violet (24 July 2009). "Are more women OK with watching porn?". CNN.com. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
"One in three women watch porn - study - The Courier-Mail". news.com.au. 10 February 2010. Archived from the original on 14 February 2010. Retrieved 13 July 2022.

[24] Edelman, Benjamin (1 January 2009). "Markets: Red Light States: Who Buys Online Adult Entertainment?" (PDF). Journal of Economic Perspectives. 23 (1). American Economic Association: 209–220. doi:10.1257/jep.23.1.209. ISSN 0895-3309.
"Are the effects of pornography negligible? - UdeMNouvelles". nouvelles.umontreal.ca (in French). 1 December 2009. Archived from the original on 31 January 2013. Retrieved 13 July 2022.

[25] ttps://web.archive.org/web/20130116164054/https://www.google.com/adplanner/static/top1000/

[26] Hotsheet, Political (25 June 2010). "29% Accessed Porn on Work Computers Last Month - CBS News". Wayback Machine. Retrieved 13 July 2022.
Leahy, Michael (2009). Porn @ Work: Exposing the Office's #1 Addiction. Moody Publishers. ISBN 978-1-57567-332-5.

[27] Anthony, Sebastian (4 April 2012). "Just how big are porn sites?". ExtremeTech. Retrieved 13 July 2022.

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