Talk:John Rogan

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I have a question concerning the 8'9 height another article states that john f carroll was the second tallest after robert p wadlow carrolls height is given at 8'7.75 is this accurate? also the 8'9 height and 175# weight seems unbelievable is this accurate too?24.178.84.130 13:37, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have a REALLY hard time believing he was only 175 lbs. at 8 foot 9. I have a friend who's 6'1 and 125 lbs. and he's a stick.

Lets cover all these concerns real easy-like. John Rogan was a black man at the turn of the 20th century. People know almost nothing about him, so it is obvious that he may be left off some lists.

Second, the 8'9" and 175 lbs is not that unbelievable if you see pictures of him. Plus he dies young ( I question the years on this article), so of course he had problems!!! If he had been of a different "ethnic orientation" he may have lived a few more years, but that was the Jim Crow years.

I think I covered everything. Have fun! Ainbro 07:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can we get a picture or a photo? I am another skeptic that a person of 8'9" can weigh 175 pounds. --Trakon 06:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rogan was in fact measured by a doctor from Philadelphia and a medical paper was written in 1899. However, his and the doctors claimed "height" (if he could stand, which he couldn't) is probably spurious. That said, John "Bud" Rogan was an interesting character, no doubt. He was a hard working farmer who was bed ridden for years in his teens by the insidious disease Acromegalic Gigantism. He refused offers for help and was suspicious of all doctors. While many of his giant contemporaries joined circus sideshows to pay for the substantual expenses involved(custom clothes, shoes, enormous appetite, etc), Rogan refused to be put on display, even though he could not stand or walk and needed the money. He instead went into business himself, moving into town. Every day he would ride his wagon, which he built himself, to the train station and sell his portrait to way-stayers and onlookers. Tragically, the disease that killed most giants before they reached 25 years old, caught up with him and he succumbed at near forty years of age. The prestigious New York Times newspaper carried an obituary on him. Mytg8 16:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1980s Guinness editions had him at 8 ft 6 in (259 cm) with the footnote "measured in sitting position", so apparently this was no estimate. Later editions upgraded him to 8 ft 8 in (264 cm) with no explanation. I think the weight of 175 lb (79 kg) was included in some editions (for certain, I did see it in a Swedish edition), and indeed he looks downright skeletal in his pictures (tennessean.com, World's tallest people ever website), but even still the weight seems incredibly low – but perhas he lost even more weight prior to his death. --Anshelm '77 (talk) 15:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length of feet[edit]

"...his foot measured 13 inches in length..." Is this supposed to be notable? I am 5 feet 11 inches tall and wear size 9.5 shoes, and my feet are 10.75 inches long. Phizzy 17:09, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Exact height?[edit]

The info box says 8 foot 10, the article says 8 foot 9, List of tallest people says 8 foot 9 1/2, one of the citations says 8 foot 8, and one of them says 8 foot 7.

You know, the consistency here could be ever so slightly better... Thegreatluigi (talk) 01:55, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What's up with the picture?[edit]

Is this a genuine picture of Joe Rogan, or just an "example" of an extremely tall black man?

The data with the picture has a lot of problems. The picture is titled Uncle Drew, which is hard to imagine as a nickname for John William Bud Rogan. The coded years: birth 1890, and death 2019 [obviously a typo] do not match Rogan's, which are 1868 to 1905. The locations are absolute junk. Two Clevelands? Really? The article says he was born in Hendersonville TN.

name = Uncle Drew

image = John-Rogan.jpg

birth_date = (1890-02-16)February 16, 1890

birth_place = Cleveland, Ohio

death_date = death date and age|2019|9|12|1890|2|16

death_place = Cleveland, Tennessee

I realize that data may be obscured by time, and/or by his ethnicity, but I hope we can do better. I do not have access to the only reference listed. Tkech (talk) 03:12, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Birth date[edit]

@SCPdude629, do you happen to have a source for the exact birth date you added? AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 02:46, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps this could help? https://lom.blackgold.org/Author/Home?author=%22Rogan%2C%20John%22 SCPdude629 (talk) 20:03, 6 December 2023 (UTC)SCPdude629[reply]