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Concerns that the opening lead for this article seems rather long and unreferenced?

Wanting to assume good faith and avoid starting an edit war, the opening lead for the article seems rather long. Shouldn't it be shortened and include references? WatchDogUS (talk) 00:57, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

His resignation takes up two of the four lead paragraphs, so that's a WP:RECENTISM problem. They should be combined into one. There shouldn't be sources in the lead, under the assumption that everything in the lead is sourced in the body. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:10, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Why not include his well known moniker of Cry Baby Boehner in the lead? His public breakdowns are comically well known. 07:48, 30 April 2016 (UTC) References: http://wonkette.com/592140/crybaby-john-boehner-must-be-on-his-period-again http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/12/weeper-of-the-house-john-boehner-cries-100557 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/john-boehner-cries-lot/story?id=12382814

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2016

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The term "House Democratic/Republican Leader" refers to the Majority/Minority leader, not the Speaker. Could the bottom succession boxes be changed to this:

Party political offices
Preceded by Dick Armey	Chairman of the House Republican Conference 1995–1999	Succeeded by J. C. Watts
Preceded by Roy Blunt Acting	House Republican Leader 2006–2011	Succeeded by Eric Cantor

2601:246:C502:4080:223:6CFF:FE93:8528 (talk) 05:03, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Not sure what changes you want made. The current navboxes are as follows and contains all the relevant information:

Sir Joseph ^(talk) 18:58, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Toggle, looks answered — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 22:36, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Could the boxes be changed to reflect that he served as House Republican Leader from 2006-2011, preceded by Roy Blunt (acting), succeeded by Eric Cantor?2601:246:C502:4080:223:6CFF:FE93:8528 (talk) 01:41, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

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Could the succession boxes be changed to reflect that he served as House Republican Leader from 2006-2011, preceded by Roy Blunt (acting), succeeded by Eric Cantor?

2601:246:C502:4080:223:6CFF:FE93:8528 (talk) 18:25, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Varun FEB2003 ^{I am Online} 07:11, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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Could the succession boxes be changed from this:

Preceded by Roy Blunt Acting	House Republican Deputy Leader 2006–2007	Succeeded by Roy Blunt
Preceded by Dennis Hastert	House Republican Leader 2007–2015	Succeeded by Paul Ryan

to this:

Preceded by Roy Blunt Acting	House Republican Leader 2006-2011	Succeeded by Eric Cantor

2601:246:C502:4080:223:6CFF:FE93:8528 (talk) 14:05, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. nyuszika7h (talk) 15:55, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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The term "Democratic/Republican Leader" in this case refers to the Majority/Minority Leader, depending on party status, not the Speaker. Could the succession boxes be changed from this:

Preceded by Roy Blunt Acting	House Republican Deputy Leader 2006–2007	Succeeded by Roy Blunt
Preceded by Dennis Hastert	House Republican Leader 2007–2015	Succeeded by Paul Ryan

to this:

Preceded by Roy Blunt Acting	House Republican Leader 2006-2011	Succeeded by Eric Cantor

http://history.house.gov/People/Office/Majority-Leaders/

http://history.house.gov/People/Office/Minority-Leaders/

2601:246:C502:4080:223:6CFF:FE93:8528 (talk) 18:19, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- MorbidEntree - _{(Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥)}(please reply using {{ping}}) 23:04, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't. The succession boxes follow who is the leader of the conference. In majority the leader/deputy is Speaker/Majority Leader and in minority it's Minority Leader/Minority Whip. Someone who moves from Minority Leader to Speaker (or the reverse) does not cede the role of conference leader to the new "majority leader". Therequiembellishere (talk) 15:10, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

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Could the succession boxes please be changed to reflect his leadership roles? He never served as Republican Whip/Deputy Leader, and he served as Republican Leader (floor leader) from 2006-2011.

2601:246:C502:4080:223:6CFF:FE93:8528 (talk) 01:21, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: Appears to be the same request as declined above. -- ferret (talk) 22:56, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

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Please add ((He joined the firm as a senior strategic advisor in November 2016.)) after the sentence ((In September 2016, Squire Patton Boggs, the third-largest lobbying firm in the U.S., announced that Boehner would join their firm.)) 165.225.80.50 (talk) 10:03, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:24, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

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Trivial nugget removed

"Boehner previously served as the House Minority Leader from 2007 until 2011, and House Majority Leader from 2006 until 2007. Boehner's almost nine years as the Republican Leader in the House [2007 - 2015] ... was the longest consecutive tenure for a Republican Leader in the House since Bob Michel of Illinois served 14 years as House Minority Leader between 1981 and 1995."

His 9 years was the longest since the guy 11 years before him. It's like being the second tallest person in a group of four people: trivial. - SummerPhD^v2.0 17:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Error under Minority Leader section

GibbNotGibbs (talk) 19:53, 3 January 2019 (UTC) 3 January, 2019

While Boehner was serving as Minority leader, from 2007 to 2011, Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House, whereas the link brings users to Dennis Hastert, who was Pelosi's predecessor, serving from 1999-2007. I have a newly created account, so cannot change this, but I hope someone will and make the necessary edit(s).

GibbNotGibbs (talk) 19:53, 3 January 2019 (UTC) D. H. Gibb (GibbNotGibbs)

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Change "2,160,000,000" to "216," under 2015 election for Speaker 47.218.218.99 (talk) 18:20, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ~ Amkgp 💬 19:08, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

We don't really need sources to know he didn't get billions of votes in the house...it's a technical issue with the way the template is being used. I'm trying to figure out a workaround. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 19:12, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Partly done. It seems to have been an issue with the template expecting a numerical parameter, and not liking the fact that there was a footnote with it. I've moved the note to the end of the table, which isn't ideal, but at least works around the issue. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 19:26, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Undue Weight in Lead

Why do we have his lobbying job in the lead: "In September 2016, Squire Patton Boggs, the third largest lobbying firm in the U.S., announced that Boehner would join their firm. It was also announced that Boehner would become a board member of Reynolds American, the second biggest tobacco firm in the U.S., for an estimated annual salary of $400,000." This has nothing to do with being Speaker of the House, and it should be moved to another section. Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk) 09:46, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

The lead is supposed to summarize the key points of the body, and I fail to see how his lobbying career isn't a significant part of his biography. If anything, I think the problem with that lead is that it doesn't talk enough about his speakership. It doesn't really talk about it at all, other than to acknowledge that it happened. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree, the lead hardly talks about his speakership. But, how are we summarizing key points of his body when all we have about his lobbying career is this: Boehner joined the board of tobacco company Reynolds American on September 15, 2016.In 2018 Boehner joined the board of Acreage Holdings, a cannabis corporation, to promote the medical use of cannabis and advocate for federal de-scheduling of the drug (a shift from his previous stance while in Congress).In 2019 Boehner was named chair of the National Cannabis Roundtable, a cannabis lobbying organization. If it's so significant, why do we only have three sentences on it? And I fail to see why a post-lobbying career is more significant than his political positions or the financial crisis (which we have multiple paragraphs on) . Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk) 21:12, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I cut the bit about his salary, as that doesn't seem to be helpful. I'm a bit busy at the moment but could look more into this later. For now, I'd say add more on the speakership to the lead. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Seems good to me. Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk) 22:38, 12 October 2020 (UTC)