Talk:Joe Sebok

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group.

Gambling: Poker Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Gambling, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Gambling on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GamblingWikipedia:WikiProject GamblingTemplate:WikiProject GamblingGambling articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article is supported by WikiProject Poker (assessed as Low-importance).

An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.

WikiProject Gambling To-do:

Current collaborations:

Improve an article to FA

Improve an article to A

Help with the Gambling articles needing attention.
Tag the talk pages of Gambling-related articles with the {{WikiProject Gambling}} banner.
The link to the Missouri gambling site is now out of date and needs to be updated.
Japan section reads as though it was written by the gambling industry - quotes of 160% returns are 'citation needed'.

Sebok/Smith bet[edit]

Question about the bet between Sebok and Gavin Smith for the 2006 WSOP - did the H.O.R.S.E. event count for the bet? I thought it only counted hold'em events, since that's all Sebok plays. Bigdottawa 05:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fairly sure it was across all events. Haven't seen anything to say otherwise. Essexmutant 07:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thought I had seen it on Sebok's site, here it is...

" All hold'em events from event #2 through event #37 at the WSOP '06 will be used in the final tally. The ESPN World Series Player of the Year points will be the scoring system employed." Bigdottawa 15:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. event isn't hold'em, so it didn't count toward the bet. I have this on direct authority from Gavin and Joe, but they also discussed it on WSOP episodes of "The Circuit." BJ Nemeth 03:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

UB Criticism[edit]

Sebok has been criticized by poker community including WSOP Limit Holdem Bracelet winner Todd Witteless who was in 60 minutes to talk about Ultimate Bet controversy for representing Ultimate Bet after cheating scandal.

The above text is repeatedly being added by an IP address. I personally disagree with it due to there being no citation (More than one being needed to say that the "poker community" has criticised him) and that it's more of an issue that needs to be read about in the article for Ultimate Bet itself. I'm wondering if people are actually wanting the statement in the article...? JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 17:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The fact one person criticizes someone else is not encyclopedic, or even interesting, and absurd statements like "criticized by poker community" (did everybody have a meeting somewhere?) are worse than weasel words. 2005 (talk) 01:35, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]