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Jerry & Marilyn

Did anyone watch tonight's Larry King interview in which (I am told) Jerry Lewis claimed that he had had sex with Marilyn Monroe (and that the Kennedys had not)? I don't know that it's encyclopedic, but it has all the fascination of a horrific automobile accident... -- Someone else 04:38 25 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Is it just me or is this article somewhat biased? I feel like there are very blatent PR elements in here rather than retaining objective journalistic views on Jerry Lewis.

I've now seen it: it was pundit Bill O'Reilly, not Larry King, and I think, from the inflection of his voice and the three extremely broad winks following the statement, that Jerry Lewis was joking. -- Someone else 03:45, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I could be wrong but he said he was involved with Marilyn at the time of her death, to steer the conversation away from the Kennedys. And he said it to Neil Cavuto, Fox News.71.98.202.194 (talk) 03:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The Day the Clown Cried

Why is the unreleased movie The Day the Clown Cried in bad taste? Since its unreleased, how can anyone say its in bad taste? Is it the subject matter? If so, it should be mentioned in the paragraph. —Frecklefoot 17:11, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

The Day the Clown Cried can be considered to be in bad taste because the final draft of the script is available online. Heptapod 19:54, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Did a (hopefully) NPOV expansion of the comment on The Day The Clown Cried. 209.149.235.254 00:20, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC) As Jerry Lewis was born Jewish when he made the movie he did not know how painful it was to him watching Jewish children die. Some of his family from Russia was murdered by the Nazis in the same way. The movie is supposed to be released by his family after he dies.

Jerry's stalker

Jerry Lewis once had a housekeeper engaged to schizophrenic Gary Randolph Benson, who became enraged when she asked Jerry to check on his criminal background. The couple married anyway, but Gary's obsession with Lewis just kept getting worse and escalated to numerous death threats. He divorced and remarried, but still couldn't or wouldn't get over it. Lewis didn't contact the authorities until his daughter's life was also threatened by Benson, who was given a suspended sentence that didn't take long to come down on him. Gary continued threats from prison and was stupid enough to sign his final very-short-but-sweet death threat letter shortly after he completed his sentence. Jerry got the last laugh, though---Gary died in prison of natural causes. It wasn't very wise on Jerry's part to say to the press with Gary's release impending that he wanted the stalker to come to his home just one time (implying he would shoot him), since that may very well have antagonized and provoked him.--65.54.155.46 14:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC) [1][2]

Also check out the hundreds of entries and links in the list of stalked celebrities

Photo changing

Why do we have a recent photo of Lewis on TV for MDA at the top of the page, and a more publicity-like photo on the section which talks about his work for MDA? They should be changed between themselves. I would do it, but I don't know yet how to. Nazroon 16:56, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Move to Jerry Lewis (entertainer)?

Hey. I was just looking over my contributions and came upon this. There are three other people named "Jerry Lewis". Would it be better if this article was moved to reflect that? ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 22:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that would be a good idea. Jerry Lewis, the entertainer, is a more well known individual than the others, so if someone is doing a search for "Jerry Lewis", they are more likely to want this page and not the others. To have a search for "Jerry Lewis" go to the disamb page would inconvenience many individuals who are looking for this page because they would have to click a second time. Less people are looking for the other Jerry Lewises, so it makes sense to direct everyone to this page first. Thanks Donaldd23 22:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Filmography

Recently an unregisted user reformatted the filmography section. Information that may be relevant, such as film role, films Jerry directed, and notes about alternative titles and release dates was removed. Having this information in one easy readable table instead of having to scour each film's article is preferable to me, and seemingly others as it has been in that format for well over a year. The new format eliminated all of that and put it in a list format with one or two notes left. I reverted it to the old way, but what is the general consensus on the proper format on Wikipedia? Donaldd23 10:37, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Pics plz

There's not a single actual picture of Jerry Lewis in this entire article. In its current configuration, Jerry Lewis might as well be the name of a tile. Kevin 15:32, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

You have a free picture of him? If so, add it! Donaldd23 03:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

"First and only media celebrity nominated for Nobel Prize"

The charity section mentions "In 1977, he became the first and only media celebrity to be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize". This should be changes to "the first celebrity to be..." because Bono was nominated in 2005 (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-02-24-nobel-list_x.htm) Mitcheca 04:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Controversy section

The description of the 2007 gay joke incident was too close to the wording of the AOL News item linked (almost verbatim for a sentence, in fact) so I reworded it. 68.146.41.232 (talk) 04:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Since when is cricket a fag game?

I dont like the sport that much but I think it is a bit bias (in the negative sense) to say that Lewis is offending the gay community when he made his remark that cricket it a "fag game". When a comment like this is made it does not at all refer to the gay community, fag is a substitute for "crap". Cricket is a crap game is more or less what that phrase means, it does not at all mean that cricket is for gays. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.64.214 (talk) 23:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Lewis mimed an effeminate cricket batting stroke [3], so it was clearly more than a reference to a "crap" game. WWGB (talk) 23:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Uh, suggesting that gays like cricket is NOT offensive, HOWEVER using "fag" as a synonym for "crap" IS offensive and homophobic. 68.73.93.130 (talk) 01:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Suzan Lewis aka Suzan Minoret

Over the past year, Suzan Lewis Uchitel has come forward as the biological daughter of entertainer, Jerry Lewis. In the face of international publicity, Mr. Lewis has never denied Ms. Lewis' claim. Before publishing a cover story featuring Suzan Lewis, Globe Magazine did an exhaustive study of her story and credentials. Ms. Lewis is disabled, and was at one time, homeless. Her story and very compelling photos, including one with her half brother, Gary Lewis, are available for research on her website, www.SuzanLewis.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.90.254 (talk) 12:40, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Where is Lewis's acceptance that this person is his daughter? It is just speculation without biological or parental proof, which is still not forthcoming. WWGB (talk) 12:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Just because someone claims they are related to someone does not mean it is proof. And, Mr. Lewis may not have denied the claim because it isn't worth the time to even acknowledge as there is no proof. Provide a birth certificate or some other indisputable proof before adding this rumor again. A tabloid like Globe magazine and her own website are not proof...in fact they are just the opposite, they provide more proof that this claim is fictional as the main stream media and Mr. Lewis ignore the false claims. Don't you get tired of adding this only to have it automatically removed almost immediately by a bot that was programmed to remove this unverified claim? And by the way, and I have photos of myself with some famous people, does that mean I can start my own website and claim I am related to them? After all, I have a very compelling photo of myself with them...so I must be related according to your definition of proof! Let me get my secretary to call Globe magazine and let them know I am the son of Buzz Aldrin because I have a photo of him and myself together! Donaldd23 (talk) 13:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
It's rather obvious that this persistent anonymous contributor 68.45.90.254 is (or works for) Rick Saphire, who just happens to be Suzan Uchitel's manager. Note his earlier self-promotion [4]. WWGB (talk) 14:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
The manager of Suzan Uchitel, Rick Saphire, has been adding a claim that Uchitel is Lewis's illegitimate daughter. This includes alleged "DNA tests" without Lewis's involvement, but involving his son Gary Lewis and Uchitel. The test results are not conclusive, nor have they been reported in any independent, reputable third-party media. I have reverted the claim under WP:BLP. WWGB (talk) 06:13, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

A DNA test was entered into by Gary Lewis and his sister Suzan. The results were substantial and included a DNA marker which is only present in 4.1% of the Caucasian population. Boston Paternity DNA labs, a highly regarded national company, reported that the likelihood of two people sharing that rare DNA marker is less than one half of one percent. In total, of 22 DNA markers tested, 17 were matches. Gary Lewis has placed an introductory video on Suzan's website www.SuzanLewis.com introducing Suzan as his sister. Gary Lewis was very much aware that Ms. Lewis and he shared the same father well before he entered into the DNA test. This story has been verified by CBS News. Those who elect to remove Ms. Lewis from this encyclopedia are doing so without first hand knowledge of the facts and are precluding the facts to be disseminated to the readers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.90.254 (talk) 20:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Rick, since Jerry Lewis did not participate in the DNA testing, and is not mentioned in the genetic report, then there is no reason to add the information to this article. Since it is relevant to Gary Lewis, you might add the information to his article. Of course, it would need to be referenced by reputable independent media, and not by a personal website with its inherent conflict of interest. WWGB (talk) 23:57, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

A VERY reputable DNA lab was very clear about results. If you have any knowledge about DNA testing, you would understand, the half sibling test does not match the two siblings DNA but it seeks out the shared DNA passed down by the common parent to the siblings. This story is factual and credible. On www.SuzanLewis.com, there is a video of the DNA expert on Inside Edition substantiating the DNA test. There are MANY unsubstantiated pieces of information regarding Jerry Lewis in full body of the article, that are not challenged or removed. You might not like what I post, but it is all based on factual and scientific reports made public by credible sources. How CAN you be sure that Jerry's second son is adopted? I've got DNA to substantiate Gary and Suzan Lewis' claims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.90.254 (talk) 02:43, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Rick, you really need to read WP:VERIFIABILITY instead of posting the same stuff again and again and again. In particular, please note "the source cited must clearly support the information as it is presented in the article". Now, I might be missing something, but NOWHERE in the Boston Paternity report does it say "Suzan Lewis is the daughter of Jerry Lewis". When that is stated unconditionally in reliable independent sources, then you can add it to this article. WWGB (talk) 03:56, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry this information does not conform to your liking, but the report on the DNA test was broadcast around the world, and Gary Lewis has been on national TV, radio, and given newspaper interviews verifying that Suzan Lewis is his biological sister. So, your information is better than Gary Lewis'? Maybe you should take Gary Lewis' name off this encyclopedia, because if you can not accept his word that Suzan Lewis and he share the same biological father, as proven in the DNA test, than Jerry Lewis must not be Gary Lewis' father. At least that's how you are explaining all this. So far, everything I have claimed over the past year has been absolutely true, and proven scientifically ... And verified by Gary Lewis. Suzan is his biological sister, and Jerry Lewis is his biological father .... So why don't you find another hobby? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.90.254 (talk) 13:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

11.23% probability that they are unrelated. WWGB (talk) 13:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Environmental record

I seem to remember another controversy involving Lewis dating back to the early 1980s. It seems that there was some proposed project (like a highway, dam, or waterwork) that was going to seriously threaten an endangered species that Lewis nevertheless strongly supported or was even a spokesman for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.16.124.196 (talk) 01:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Trivia

The trivia section ranges from obscene fancruft to actual information that can and should be incorporated into the article. Also, I think there needs to be a section about his recent health troubles and steroided face. --TheGrza 09:29, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC) --TheGrza 10:44, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC) Also- why did Jerry get involved in MDA? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.66.154.147 (talk) 14:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Repeated suicide story

About 2 years ago I saw a piece on Lewis where he claimed that he was ready to commit suicide because of his health problems, but was prevented from doing so by his adopted daughter (who I beleive was 5 or 6 at the time of the interview, about mid-2005). In the interview, Lewis says he was in his bathroom (or bedroom, I forget) with a gun to his head, when he heard his daughter calling for him. He put the gun down and went to her rather than kill himself.

Thing is, I remember in about 1980, a summer camp counselor telling us all the exact same story about Lewis! The counselor's source for the story was a TV interview! All of the facts were the same, except that in the original, Lewis was depressed over his alcoholism, and it was his son who called for him. In the new version, he's unable to bear his debilitating back pain and health problems. Either Lewis has told modified versions of this story 25 years apart, or in fact he has (at least) twice been saved from suicide by one of his (otherwise unattended?) children.

If anyone knows about the original interview and can help me find a citation for it, I will update the article.DougRWms 21:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Jerry Lewis' daughter was born in the early 1980's, so any story saying she was "5 or 6" in 2005 is definately incorrect and should be taken with a grain of salt. Donaldd23 22:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Lewis' official website gives Danielle's year of birth as 1992. Another page I just found tells me that the suicide attempt occured in 2002.DougRWms 22:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
That is correct, I meant to type "early 1990's", but I used an 8 instead of a 9! In any case, a 2005 interview with Danielle would make her 13, not 5 or 6. While this story may be true (I seem to recall hearing this as well), unless there are some hard facts to back it up, we shouldn't add it to the article just yet. Donaldd23 01:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I will not add it to the article unless I can verify the earlier interview, in which he first told the story. I KNOW the second story is his own (whether or not it is true), because Mr. Lewis himself told the story in the interview. Surely he told the story earlier too, because for my summer-camp counselor to make up an almost identical story 25 years before the re-telling would be highly unlikely. However, I will track the interview down, or not add the material to the article. The reason I posted the query in the first place was to see if anyone knew where and when Mr. Lewis first told the story.--DougRWms60.238.73.10 03:32, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

The first time I heard the suicide story, it came over WPIX, which showed a picture of Jerry Lewis, cross-eyed with 2 pistols in his hands. I think I saw this in the '70's. The story seemed like it just happened, this urge to shoot himself. He didn't carry it out (in his special bathroom) because he heard his children laughing outside the bathroom.71.98.202.194 (talk) 04:05, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Same thing with the threats on his life. This organization, trying to get people to stop smoking in 1976, threatened to sit by the stage and pelt him with water guns everytime he lit a cigarette. Jerry canceled his appearance because it was beneath his dignity. A decade or so later, this canceled appearance was attributed to death threats he was receiving.71.98.202.194 (talk) 04:05, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The Bellboy

This article says it was shot without a script, yet the wiki entry for the movie says that Lewis shows Stan Laurel the script for advice and suggestions. Which one is correct? 203.2.128.109 (talk) 02:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Last name

Jerry was born with the last name 'Levitch' and his first son was born with that last name. However, all subsequent children have the last name 'Lewis'. Did Jerry ever legally change his last name, and if so is there any documentation as to when? Donaldd23 (talk) 16:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Filmography

There is already a separate page that is very comprehensive and I don't think we need to have one here as well as the separate one. Most articles about actors that have large film/tv appearances have a link to the Filmography page within the main article. I think the one in this article should be removed...but the format might work for the actual filmography page. Donaldd23 (talk) 23:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

If you have any specific ideas to use it, it's on the Filmography Talk page. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 00:58, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Suzan Lewis daughter of Jerry Lewis

Suzan Lewis was added to the family page of Jerry Lewis and then removed. She has a Legal DNA test done with her half-brother Gary Lewis with the proper citations. Please stop removing accurate factual information.Sterlingbishop (talk) 23:44, 27 April 2010 (UTC)Sterling BishopSterlingbishop (talk) 23:44, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Here we go again ..... Talk:Jerry Lewis#Suzan Lewis aka Suzan Minoret. WWGB (talk) 23:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia policy states that verifiability not truth is the guideline for editing. It does not matter if you do not believe that she may or may not be the daughter of Jerry Lewis. I would like to clear up another belief that you seem to have. I am not Rick Saphire. You seem to have a dispute with Rick Saphire. In the future, please exclude me from it. Sterlingbishop (talk) 04:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC) — Sterlingbishop (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Not Rick? Sorry, David. WWGB (talk) 14:08, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
The DNA report states "Without DNA from Jerry Lewis himself it's impossible to be 100% sure that Susan and Gary are brother and sister"; the upi.com headline states "Suzan likely related to Jerry Lewis' son". There's nothing proven here. By the way, no-one has yet explained why it is imperative to have this claim in Jerry Lewis's article. WWGB (talk) 05:16, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Suzan Lewis should be listed as one of Jerry Lewis' children, because she IS one of his children. You quoted the UPI headline, why didn't you also include the quote by Gary Lewis that Suzan IS his half sister? If you are going to pick and choose which parts of an article that you think apply to your narrow scope of DNA facts, then there is no middle ground to be had here and I have no choice but to reluctantly move this matter to a higher authority. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sterlingbishop (talk • contribs)

I will state one more time: there is no conclusive proof that Suzan Uchitel is the daughter of Jerry Lewis. Gary Lewis's opinion is unscientific, the DNA report is inconclusive. Wikipedia policy WP:BLP states that "Biographies of living persons must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives, and the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment."
We cannot state that Jerry Lewis fathered an illegitimate child unless there is absolute proof. That burden of proof has not been met by any tests or claims published to date. WWGB (talk) 06:05, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

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Question

How do you explain that in Lewis' early movies, especialy those he made with Dean Martin, his voice sounds different? Did someone dub both his singing and speaking-voice? Maybe you could mention it in the article. IGG8998 —Preceding undated comment added 22:12, 14 December 2010 (UTC).

Piscapo and SNL?

Wasn't there a bit where Joe Piscapo, doing Jerry, and Mr. Lewis himself had a bit of a run in during a skit on SNL? - Denimadept (talk) 01:27, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Date of birth

We start out with "Jerry Lewis (born on 16 March 1926, according to most sources)". Then later, "He began in burlesque in 1942 at age 16 (if the birth year of 1926 is correct)". This seems to undermine our belief that 1926 is the right year. I'd prefer to cite the references that give an alternative year, and leave it at that. If we believe 1926 is right, we shouldn't be qualifying it with words such as "if the birth year of 1926 is correct". JackofOz 04:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

OK I was just having lunch at the New York Friars Club today (May 4th, 2011) and there was a very large party with Jerry Lewis in the middle. The waiters brought a cake and sang Happy Birthday to Jerry, the whole room joining in. And of course, Jerry gets up and does a tiny bit of shtick. If I had videotaped this it probably would have been much more credible. However, my point is that Jerry Lewis just celebrated his birthday at the NY Friars Club on May 4th, 2011, so I am not too sure about this March 16th date. User:Jbachana 10:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Joseph or Jerome?

The first block says Lewis was born Joseph Levitch, the second block says Jerome. Must be one or the other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.24.162 (talk) 13:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

It is certainly unusual that we accept Encyclopaedia Britannica [5] ahead of Lewis himself [6]. WWGB (talk) 14:06, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I found another reference for Joseph from Jerry himself. So I'm changing it.[7] avalean (talk) 02:06, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Now the second mention doesn't make any sense. I believe that Jerry Lewis has been accused of spreading the rumour that his birth name was "Joseph", because that's his name according to Jewish law (I don't understand how), while in fact it was Jerome on his birth certificate. - Richard Cavell (talk) 08:30, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Just finished watching his film Hardly Working and Lewis plays a minor role dressed in drag. During the closing credits this role is credited to 'Joseph Levitch'...adding more weight to this being his birth name and not Jerome. Donaldd23 (talk) 13:33, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

"The Bellboy" grossing $200m

The article states that "Much to Paramount's dismay, the movie had grossed in excess of $200,000,000 by the time of the interview" is there a source for this claim? Seems like an excessive amount of money - Is it possible it grossed that much in the 1960-2005 period?. Akievsky (talk) 06:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Boxing

Does anyone have any detail on Lewis' short-lived boxing career? Rogerthat Talk 08:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't it Dean Martin, who briefly boxed? GoodDay 23:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

There was a short period when Jerry wore boxers, yes. He soon went commando - late 50's, early 60's - and has since, for what turns out to be a very long time, worn briefs.Homely (talk) 18:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you mixing Lewis up with Bob Hope or Lou Costello? Both, I believe, briefly boxed. Profhum (talk) 09:54, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Outline of Contributions which might improve the article's quality

As a humanities prof, I'm sad to see this article about a major 20th century entertainer disintegrating into a collection of trivia and even vendettas. Here are some requests for scholarly contributions. First, calling Martin and Lewis "popular" in the Fifties is like calling Michael Jackson "popular" in the Eighties, accurate but insufficient. "In the 1940s and '50s, Martin and Lewis were—along with Sinatra and Elvis—the most famous people on earth," Amy Wallace accurately writes in the long GQ interview August 2011. "Later, though American critics were slow to recognize it, Lewis also became one of the few comic auteurs: a filmmaker who wrote, directed, produced, choreographed, edited, and starred in many of his own films, the best of which (The Nutty Professor, The Bellboy) have become bona fide classics. Tarantino and Spielberg are avowed Lewis fans. So is Scorsese." They were the last great 20th century comedy team, regarded as the successors to the Marx Brothers and Abbott and Costello. Describing the extent of their popularity, the article would show how limited viewing choices were, which made fame all the greater, before cable TV and the internet. As a child, I remember waiting for the yearly Martin and Lewis comedy, as children have waited for the yearly Harry Potter movie. The line to get into the Freeport, Long Island theater wound around one ENTIRE city block. Second-- their genre, the comedy team, has all but vanished. Why? Tucker and Chan is all I can think of at the moment, and they don't do standup, just the series. It was vaudeville based, and TV killed it? Hard to say why. From the 30s to the 50s, there would actually be debate about who was currently the Great American Comedy Team. An analysis of Martin and Lewis classic routines would be welcome. Third: a delicate article to write, but an important one. They were understood to be an ethnic odd couple, a smooth Stage Italian and a funny Stage Jew, the harmless "liddle yiddle" with the screeching accent. Lewis's exaggerated accent and manner embarrassed many Jews-- like my mother-- even though they enjoyed even broader parodies privately, in the Catskills. Martin and Lewis were American born, second generation, but extremely "ethnic" and they stood for the new America of the big Eastern cities. Their happy partnership was a hopeful one, like Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan in the Rush Hour movies. When Martin and Lewis broke up it was a national trauma, like the agony over the Beatles breakup later, and as much discussed. If scholars cared to address these three topics, I think the final Jerry Lewis article would give a real feeling of mid century American entertainment and the culture that produced it. Lewis was at the intersection of many currents.Profhum (talk) 10:40, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

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2011 telethon

Need to note that he did not, in fact, host this year's labor day muscular dystrophy telethon even though he had previously said that he would and it would be see his last. See here. Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 16:41, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Controversies

Personally, none of the multiple mini-quotations from various isolated events in his long life, seem like "controversies." They are more well-selected negative factoids, and mostly trivial in the life of any entertainer. Considering that there are no other quotes by Lewis anywhere in the article but here, the section is essentially all negative trivia. None of it is shown to be controversial. Having an entire paragraph devoted to his saying he didn't like female comedians, with quotes, is but one example. We don't label a section in an encyclopedia bio as a "Controversy" merely because some anonymous persons are offended at something he said. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 04:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Micro examination of every word a guy says in a career as long as Mr. Lewis' life is bound to produce this type of none-controversy. It's undue weight. If there is any controversy, it's whatever went on that brought about Lewis laving the telethon and why he said this year would be his last, yet he did not even appear on this year's show. What was going on? Johnny Squeaky (talk) 04:29, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

At War With the Army

I was just watching "At War With the Army" with Jerry and Dean and it was very similar to "From Here To Eternity". Did James Jones base his book on "At War With the Army"? 2602:306:CEDF:1580:701F:97AC:BF44:7B6F (talk) 07:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Trivia are not "controversies"

I removed the following section entitled "Controversies" as the section is little more than mostly anecdotal trivia. None of the anecdotes should be categorized as "controversies," and are from tabloid-like publications which survive on celebrity gossip and trivia (i.e. Parade magazine). Including celebrity trivia out of context from the bio can only weaken Wiki's goal as an encyclopedia. Calling someone a politically incorrect name, using potentially hurtful comments, or saying they don't like female comedians is called "free speech," not "controversies." Especially when not in context of the bio. Feel free to discuss if anyone has 2nd opinions. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 05:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Lewis has been criticized by members of the disability rights community. In 1990, he wrote a first-person essay entitled "If I Had Muscular Dystrophy" for Parade magazine, in which he characterized those with muscular dystrophy as "being half a person".[1] Many in the disabled community viewed his remarks as prejudicial, contributing to the idea that people with disabilities are "childlike, helpless, hopeless, non functioning and noncontributing members of society".[2] Members of the disability rights community object to Lewis receiving the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award.[3]

In February 2000, Lewis stunned an audience gathered to honor his work at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival by saying he doesn't like female comics. Lewis said, "I don't like any female comedians. A woman doing comedy doesn't offend me, but sets me back a bit. I, as a viewer, have trouble with it. I think of her as a producing machine that brings babies in the world."[4] He later defended the remark, saying it was taken wildly out of context, and added that he made 11 movies with comic character actress Kathleen Freeman.[4]

During the 2007 Labor Day Telethon, Lewis almost let slip the word "faggot" while live on air. While talking to a cameraman, he joked: "Oh, your family has come to see you. You remember Bart, your oldest son, Jesse, the illiterate fag--no...", at which point he turned away from the camera.

I'm sorry, but that's rather silly on your part. Calling someone a "fag," for which he did receive a lot of criticism and attention, is a controversy. His statements on female comedians garnered even more attention and controversy. Are they free speech? Absolutely. Are they controversial? Obviously. One does not invalidate the other and I'm a little perplexed at your thought process on this matter. 69.88.228.158 (talk) 05:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

The section was improperly removed without discussion. I've put it back. Removal of an entire section should be properly discussed. 76.22.32.86 (talk) 00:13, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

It seems to have been removed, again. By the way, Wikiwatcher1, discrimination against people with disabilities is NOT trivial and we are just as much productive members of society, if not more. NorthernThunder (talk) 05:57, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

It's amazing that the really furious decades-long controversy in the disabled community about where the money from the telethons was actually going has been erased from human memory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.1.207.4 (talk) 01:59, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Controversy

I'm surprised there is not some reference in here to Jerry Lewis' controversial comments regarding women comedians. Does anyone know enough about this/remember this well enough to include it? It seems relevant and important.--ChllyJess 15:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm surprised that there isn't reference in here to his controversial comments about the disabled, considering that mention of them was apparently removed from the Muscular Dystrophy Association page in favor of having the information here.75.35.242.200 22:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised there isn't reference in here to his controversial and racist portrayal of Asians, too. There, have we covered everything? --68.95.246.239 00:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
His shameful depiction of Jews? 2601:8:9180:604:219:D1FF:FEA8:25F0 (talk) 03:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't think adding information about a momentary lapse of judgment during a point of exhaustion in the scheme of Lewis' 50+ year career is a way to "stay focused on the topic without going into unnecessary details" as suggested at Wikipedia:What is a good article?. -- Jreferee (Talk) 18:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

What? Haha well leaving out the controversial statements seems kinda biased towards him; its not like they aren't true. Besides, there's a lot of controversy. 72.199.100.223 (talk) 03:55, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Overseas popularity

I softened the sentence on the alleged popularity of Jerry Lewis in France. I'm French and I'm always surprised that this alleged popularity is generally only discussed... in the American media. I think that Jerry Lewis was once considered a comedy genius by some high-brow cinema magazine, but that most of his (small) popularity for decades now arises from his charity work. I have not watched any of his films. David.Monniaux 18:40, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Indeed French critics considered The Ladies Man as a masterwork, especially due to the innovative stage design and way it is used.Hektor 18:27, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't say his popularity was exactly small. I lived in Italy when I was a child in the late '60s and early '70s where we received French TV from across the border. Jerry Lewis was on at least one station weekly for years, while maybe not a superstar he seemed to be popular.Virgil61 10:18, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
After writing the above I've found out that Jerry Lewis was recently awarded the 'Legion of Honor' from the French Minister of Culture Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres who called Lewis "France's favorite clown". [8]Virgil61 01:48, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Read Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres' biography and then judge for yourself whether you would trust such a person with good judgment. David.Monniaux 02:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Likewise, I grew up in France and have never heard of him outside of US media. I don't know where this cliche comes from. French wikipedia calls this allegation an "old US stereotype".

The word "Brit" in this sentence: "Liking Lewis has long been a common stereotype about the French in the minds of many Americans, Australians, Canadians, and Brits, and is often the object of jokes in Anglosphere pop culture." should be changed as it is a colloquialism. It's almost, but not quite, like a British person using the word "Yank" for any American. The official word for a person from Britain is "Briton" although I realise this word isn't very well recognised either in the UK or outside of it. I would change it my self but couldn't come up with anything other than "people from Britian" which just sounded stupid. I'd also say, it probably isn't very true. Although the British are very keen on stereotyping our French neighbours I've never come accross the "They like Jerry Lewis" one before. Haz bear01 (talk) 11:03, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

The cliche "French love Jerry Lewis" is total fabrication. I'm French, I grew up in times when Lewis was at the height of his career, and I couldn't put a face on his name (and vice-versa) until I moved to the US. I asked my parents and many of my relatives, hardly anyone knows who Lewis is, and those who do are over 60 years old. Yet, I come from a well-off family who had television at home in the late 50s. The above comment by the Italian guy is highly dubious. First off, I wouldn't trust an Italian to comment on French TV (did they even have television sets in Italy in the 60s?). Next, the guy alleges that "Lewis was on at least one station weekly for years". This is utterly false. Back in the late 60s, there was only ONE channel in France, which broadcast only a few hours per day, mostly for cultural shows, movies and news. So surely Lewis wasn't on French TV all the time. The Italian dude is confused, obviously. I grew up (in France, not in Italy) in the 60s, and Lewis surely wasn't on TV all the time. I would remember. This is just a cliche because America is embarrassed by their very own homebred clown. Just look at the evidence: does Lewis speak French? Has ever lived in France? In how many French films has he starred? There you go. As for the "Legion d'honneur", this is no indication of fame. Recently, Iggy Pop got it. The list of recipients is endless. Heck, we even indulge to some Italians once in a while. That's how generous we are. But, by God's grace, keep your clowns, America. We've got our fair share already (most are of Italian descent. Just like masons and cleaning personnel). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.180.152 (talk) 07:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, a reading of comments on many YouTube clips from Jerry Lewis movies would reflect that he is quite popular with the French. I am an American who is new to his work and was rather bewildered at all of the comments. Maybe he's just popular with French YouTube users? :) History Lunatic (talk) 23:56, 17 April 2015 (UTC)History Lunatic

Overseas popularity

I softened the sentence on the alleged popularity of Jerry Lewis in France. I'm French and I'm always surprised that this alleged popularity is generally only discussed... in the American media. I think that Jerry Lewis was once considered a comedy genius by some high-brow cinema magazine, but that most of his (small) popularity for decades now arises from his charity work. I have not watched any of his films. David.Monniaux 18:40, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Indeed French critics considered The Ladies Man as a masterwork, especially due to the innovative stage design and way it is used.Hektor 18:27, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't say his popularity was exactly small. I lived in Italy when I was a child in the late '60s and early '70s where we received French TV from across the border. Jerry Lewis was on at least one station weekly for years, while maybe not a superstar he seemed to be popular.Virgil61 10:18, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
After writing the above I've found out that Jerry Lewis was recently awarded the 'Legion of Honor' from the French Minister of Culture Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres who called Lewis "France's favorite clown". [9]Virgil61 01:48, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Read Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres' biography and then judge for yourself whether you would trust such a person with good judgment. David.Monniaux 02:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Likewise, I grew up in France and have never heard of him outside of US media. I don't know where this cliche comes from. French wikipedia calls this allegation an "old US stereotype".

The word "Brit" in this sentence: "Liking Lewis has long been a common stereotype about the French in the minds of many Americans, Australians, Canadians, and Brits, and is often the object of jokes in Anglosphere pop culture." should be changed as it is a colloquialism. It's almost, but not quite, like a British person using the word "Yank" for any American. The official word for a person from Britain is "Briton" although I realise this word isn't very well recognised either in the UK or outside of it. I would change it my self but couldn't come up with anything other than "people from Britian" which just sounded stupid. I'd also say, it probably isn't very true. Although the British are very keen on stereotyping our French neighbours I've never come accross the "They like Jerry Lewis" one before. Haz bear01 (talk) 11:03, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

The cliche "French love Jerry Lewis" is total fabrication. I'm French, I grew up in times when Lewis was at the height of his career, and I couldn't put a face on his name (and vice-versa) until I moved to the US. I asked my parents and many of my relatives, hardly anyone knows who Lewis is, and those who do are over 60 years old. Yet, I come from a well-off family who had television at home in the late 50s. The above comment by the Italian guy is highly dubious. First off, I wouldn't trust an Italian to comment on French TV (did they even have television sets in Italy in the 60s?). Next, the guy alleges that "Lewis was on at least one station weekly for years". This is utterly false. Back in the late 60s, there was only ONE channel in France, which broadcast only a few hours per day, mostly for cultural shows, movies and news. So surely Lewis wasn't on French TV all the time. The Italian dude is confused, obviously. I grew up (in France, not in Italy) in the 60s, and Lewis surely wasn't on TV all the time. I would remember. This is just a cliche because America is embarrassed by their very own homebred clown. Just look at the evidence: does Lewis speak French? Has ever lived in France? In how many French films has he starred? There you go. As for the "Legion d'honneur", this is no indication of fame. Recently, Iggy Pop got it. The list of recipients is endless. Heck, we even indulge to some Italians once in a while. That's how generous we are. But, by God's grace, keep your clowns, America. We've got our fair share already (most are of Italian descent. Just like masons and cleaning personnel). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.180.152 (talk) 07:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, a reading of comments on many YouTube clips from Jerry Lewis movies would reflect that he is quite popular with the French. I am an American who is new to his work and was rather bewildered at all of the comments. Maybe he's just popular with French YouTube users? :) History Lunatic (talk) 23:56, 17 April 2015 (UTC)History Lunatic

Fired from Muscular Dystrophy

Dr Joel Wallach, BSc, DVM, ND claims that Jerry was fired from the MDA because the Dr shared with Jerry the cure to Muscular Dystrophy. He had sent the evidence to Jerry, who was very excited and presented the data to the Doctors on the MDA board. They didn't want to announce it because it would be the end of the telethon and a huge amount of donated money. They then fired Jerry and anyone loyal to him. And then sent Jerry on a cruise so he couldn't be interviewed.

You can find Dr Wallach talking about it here on Youtube "Why We Don't Need Vaccines with Dr. Joel Wallach"..

The story is validated by Jerry's personal assistant, as mentioned in the Youtube and in Dr Wallach's book Epigenetics, at kindle location 1826 in a section entitled Nevada Witch Hunt. Donpayette (talk) 00:55, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

So, known charletan quack says something stupid. Not exactly worthy of inclusion in an encylopedia. 62.172.139.38 (talk) 11:26, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Jerry Lewis' personal archive is acquired by the Library of Congress

Greetings, Last night on EWTN broadcast of Jerry Lewis interview this recent news was mentioned. There is further information posted at this LA Times article. Being still somewhat new to WP (April 2014) it would be great if additional more experienced editors could update the JL article with this news. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 19:05, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Re The Jerry Lewis quote under the heading Charity Work.

Here is the original text.

Mr. Lewis commented on the Syrian refugee crisis in December 2015 interview with Raymond Arroyo by saying “Refugees should stay where the hell they are” and that “[Syrians are] not part of the human condition”. [5]

It however, does not reflect what Mr. Lewis actually said. I have a problem with the words used by the author, "Syrian". Mr. Lewis does not use these words. He refers to the Refugees as "them". When you infer that Mr. Lewis lups them all Refugees as being Sryian.

This is the site of your reference actually says. “Hey, nobody has worked harder for the human condition than I have, but they’re not part of the human condition,” Lewis argued. “If 11 guys in that group of 10,000 are ISIS, how can I take the chance? I don’t want to lose another Frenchman or another Englishman. That bothers me.”

So my problem comes into this when you infer that Mr. Lewis said that all the "Refugees" are in your words "Syrian".


December 12, 2017 in a World Over Exclusive interview with Raymond Arroyo Jerry Lewis was asked “When you watch what’s happening, 'this isn’t funny', on CNN and on FOX, ISIS blowing up, shooting people indiscriminately. What went through your mind as you saw this?” To which Mr. Lewis responded. “You’ve got to keep in mind ISIS has attacked the world. Refugees should stay where the hell they are. Nobody has worked harder for the human condition than I have, but they are not part of the human condition if eleven of ten thousand are ISIS, how can I take the chance, I don’t want to lose another Frenchman or another Englishman. That bothers me." [6]

I just want someone to put Mr. Lewis words in the right context. [unknown person]

I restored a longer version of the quote because the trimmed version didn't make sense or give suitable context. I cut where I could (cut the phrase "how can I take the chance"; and cut the interviewer's name) to make it shorter. Umfoster's contributions were in good faith and shouldn't be tagged as vandalism. Cheers, y'all. Pigkeeper (talk) 23:16, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ The Infamous Parade Magazine Article
  2. ^ Johnson, Mary (September, 1992). "Jerry Lewis, Jerry's Orphans and the Telethon: Disability Rag Classics". Ragged Edge Online. Retrieved 2009-06-15. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  3. ^ The Trouble with Jerry
  4. ^ a b Cite error: The named reference usat was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  5. ^ Garcia, Artruro. http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/jerry-lewis-goes-full-nutter-syrian-refugees-are-not-part-of-the-human-condition/ “Jerry Lewis goes full nutter: Syrian refugees ‘are not part of the human condition’” , “Raw Story”, December 29, 2015
  6. ^ World Over - 2015-12-17 – Jerry Lewis Exclusive with Raymond Arroyo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGmyfiHivWyN8

Birthday

To the most wonderful comedian of the 20th century. Thank you for being able to make us laugh. You were magic. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY", JERRY LEWIS Lila, West Palm Beach — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.202.40.61 (talk) 15:51, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Career vs. health

The Health concerns subsection under his Personal life, is nearly (90%) as long as the section about his career with Dean Martin. IMO, it adds undue weight to a private aspect of his personal life and could use some pruning for balance. --Light show (talk) 20:57, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

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His ring

Can someone tell something about the golden ring he always wore (right hand, small finger), even in the movies? He doesn't wear him anymore.--Mideal (talk) 10:37, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Personal Life

There needs to be an addition of information about his illegitimate daughter, Suzan [born c.1952], from his relationship with Lynn Uchitel (sp?). I think that has now been proven and accepted by the family. Venqax (talk) 17:52, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

His First Marriage

April 16, 1945, not October 3, 1944; see Jerome J Levitch in the New York City, Marriage Indexes, 1907-1995, ancestry.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larryebunch (talk • contribs) 10:17, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Page redirect?

When I use the in-site search to find Mr. Lewis' article, I am taken to one version of the page where the details of his death have not been included. However, if I attempt to access the page using any other means (links from external pages, external search engines, etc.), I am taken to the proper page. Is anyone else experiencing this?

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2017

Jerry Lewis received a 2015 Casino Entertainment Lifetime Legend Award 24.179.82.180 (talk) 00:41, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:49, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

His Birth Name

Someone changed it to Jerome. It was Joseph. Please see his interview for Archive of American Television from 2000. . . Am I wrong? 71.92.219.175 (talk) 18:38, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

My father went to school with Jerry Lewis from 7th grade on, and for as long as I can remember (since maybe 1965 or so) he has always said the original name was Jerome Levitch. He also said Jerome's best friend then was Joe Schoenberg. (Some confusion there? Pure speculation on my part.) My mother retold an anecdote in an email today, this is the content: (Bill Krucke is my father, Bruce is my mother).
"On Aug 20, 2017, at 5:15 PM, bruce <bwkrucke@gmail.com> wrote: Just heard that Jerry Lewis died today. He and Bill were in the same home room in the seventh grade and Jerry had just recently decided to call himself Jerry Lewis rather than Jerome Levitch, his real name. Jerry and his pal Joe Schoenberg would come in on Monday and before class recite the entire Baby Snooks Show, from radio on Sunday night, to the delight of the class. Sometime during the year for some reason Jerry annoyed Bill and Bill called him Levitch, causing Jerry to challenge him to a fight in the schoolyard during lunch. They met and before anything really happened, Joe convinced Jerry that no good would come of a fight and that was that. They were in highschool together too until Jerry dropped out at 16. He was 4-F for the draft because of a heart murmur, which didn't seem to interfere with his long life--he turned 91 earlier this year. Bill's little claim to fame." Lazyksaw (talk) 23:00, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
According to an Ancestry.com search his name was given as Jerome J Levitch when he married Esther Calonico, in New York on 16 Apr 1945. In a 1930 Census in Newark his name was given as Jerome. His Father Daniel born New York 11 Apr 1902, died Las Vegas 21 Nov 1980. His mother was born in Mazowieckie, Poland 26 Dec 1903, died Las Vegas 18 Feb 1983; her father was born in Russia, her mother born in Warsaw, Mazowieckie, Poland. At some point before 1930 the parents changed their name to Lewis. --BeckenhamBear (talk) 15:10, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

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Gary Lewis and half-sister Suzanne Klienman

On Inside Edition, Gary Lewis met his half-sister Suzanne Klienman and learned from DNA test results that they are related siblings, the children of Jerry Lewis.

64.175.40.184 (talk) 11:28, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

photos??

1. are we sure the date is correct for a photo 1973? Looks more like 1963 to me. 2. possible to put a damn yankees photo next to damn yankees content and would look better?copyright issues? Anarchistemma (talk) 04:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

NPOV issues with article

Jerry lewis has said some controversial things in the past that should be addressed in the article such use of the word fag and criticizing female comics. There is also the issue of him excluding his oldest children (from his first marriage) from his will and the allegations of mental abuse made by his older children Joseph and Gary. Also, their is no mention that Joseph Lewis died as age 45 of a drug overdose, for which his brother Gary partially blamed on Jerry Lewis himself (i.e. the abusive up bringing led to drug abuse, etc.). Finely, their is the issue some advocates for the physically handicapped raised about how Mr Lewis dealt the physical disabled. Since Jerry Lewis is no longer a living person, it should be easier to address these issues with worrying about running afoul of the BLP rules. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 18:17, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

content added re: women comics, ‘fag’. the will exclusions and death of Joseph are, and have been, in the article under death/family sections. abuse allegations of joseph repeated by anthony in inside editon and/or nat’l inquirer, both paid interviews and not reliable citation sources. brother scott rebuts allegations in recent interviews and anthony denied abuse in Patti Lewis’ book. no other source gary etc for emotional abuse allegation. this resolves page issues Anarchistemma (talk) 01:56, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

small change in the lede

I am going to move a sentence about "video assist" to the sentence above it, which deals with his acting career, so the sentence about his work on muscular dystrophy is a separate sentence.Argentine84 (talk) 16:02, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Question for Wikipedia user JerryLewis528: unusual activity

Greetings, JerryLewis528. I've noticed that you make edits to this article almost every day. This has been going on for at least a couple of months. As far as I know there's nothing wrong with that, but I've never seen anything like this sustained level of activity from a single user. If I may ask: what's going on? You haven't set up your user page. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Age?

The lede gives his dates as 1926-2017, which would make him 91 at the time of death. But the age of 99 is quoted twice in the article. Valetude (talk) 23:32, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

He was 91. The only place I see where age 99 is quoted is for his ex-wife Patti. Where do you see it referred to for Jerry? DonaldD23 talk to me 00:02, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
My mistake, Donald. I must be seeing things. Thank you. Valetude (talk) 01:19, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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Sexual allegation

There are some video clips that seem quite credible such as at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddH-T91K0tU. I believe it should be time to review the validity of this, and if so expand on the article, or add a separate article to document this in more detail as well. Many people did not know about these allegations prior to 2022. 2A02:8388:1600:A200:3AD5:47FF:FE18:CC7F (talk) 04:25, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

It is mentioned, in this section. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:18, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Youtube is hardly a reliable source. Dgndenver (talk) 11:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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