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Don't you dare delete this article

These boys are firmly part of UK popular culture now whether you like it or not. They have been discussed by the British Prime Minister, and have had countless column inches dedicated to them.

Wikipedia is not here to decide whether someone has talent or not, but whether they are notable. John and Edward won't be winning the Booker Prize anytime soon, but they now part of popular cultural history - again, whether you like it or not.

Were I a little green man just landed from Mars (which I am not), and wondered who or what this "Jedward" was which everyone seems to be talking about, I would expect Wiki to tell me.

If we can have pages dedicated to non entities of even lesser stature such as Preston from the Ordinary Boys, then these famous Irish twins deserve their own page too.

Keep it factual of course. But keep them in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.246.71.166 (talk) 15:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

The simple fact remains that if niether Stacey or Olly the finalist are getting pages then enither should they. if its going on press then Danyl should get a page seeing as his name was splashed all over the newspapers 90.205.34.13 (talk) 15:33, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

That fact is no-one is interested enough to make an article about the othe people. If you want to make an article then you can but more people are interested in Jedward.188.221.127.121 (talk) 16:37, 14 December 2009 (UTC)anon

People have made articles about the others but they were all redirected back to the list of contestants, mostly through the AFD process. This article was sent to AFD but failed to reach consensus. Another one may be necessary in the future. Please do not create articles for the other contestants, thank you. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Late Late Toy Show and other bits

The twins makes their Irish televison debute on The Late Late Toy Show, November 27th, 2009 [1] RTÉ

[2] We've watched the toy show every year and always wished we were on it.

The boys' school [3]

DAVIN O’DWYER, Juornalist in the irhsh times compareses jedward to singer ian brown. [4]

What sex pisstls John Lydon saids 'We need ridiculous Jedward' [5] RTÉ

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Microchip08 11:11, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Ithink this section should be deleted, it is a couple of citations that no one cares about.188.221.127.121 (talk) 16:48, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Delete immediately

if this article remains then wikipedia is fast turning into a joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drunkenmonkey111 (talk • contribs) 21:34, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunatley, i do not like John and Edward either, but they are quickly becoming Notable people, so i think it should stay.--milesaaway (talk) 09:49, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I agree, It should stay as people want to know about them (even tho they are rubbish!). However, to keep wikipedia serious, the article should be called "john and edward grimes" and jedward should redirect to that, as opossed to john and edward grimes redirecting to jedward. Additionally the description of music act should be considered very carefully. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.61.6 (talk) 11:53, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
You may want to leave comments on the AFD page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jedward where the deletion of this article is being discussed. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Like many other Xfactor, popstars, big brother, and various other Tv shows contestants, they may SEEM notable now, but they will soon disappear once the general public loses interest.
Also, this article is clearly a biased written article, with very paper thin and presuming sources. I'm with Drunkenmonkey111 - DELETE IMMEDIATELY - --A Chain of Flowers (talk) 20:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
This article should stay. They are household names, and why should it be deleted when it's only going to made again in the future. --Arneldo (talk) 23:14, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not "a joke" for providing legitimate information about an act that people are clearly interested in. Their level of talent is irrelevant to this debate. A significant number of people are interested in knowing about them; the advantage of Wikipedia as compared to hard-copy encyclopaedias is its ability to provide up-to-the-minute information on pop culture as well as technological and other advances. This is not about your opinion or anyone else's. It is about whether information about them should be available in a reliable encyclopaedic format and I think it's obvious that it should. FiendishThingie (talk) 15:38, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


Keep them in!

They do deserve a wiki page. It would be helpful if you had a section on how to distinguish one from the other as that question seems to come up a lot. John has the pointy ear and scars on nose and eyebrow. Edward has a scar on his lip, and is slightly taller than John. If they fade away into obscurity, the page won't get seen much, that is all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.212.191 (talk) 22:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, they do deserve a wiki page, as they are fast becoming celebrities. Hardly a day goes by without see them in the paper. They will NOT win the X Factor this year, but they are the main highlight of the series this year.Jemmabond (talk) 13:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

No, they are in the papers NOW. They'll soon disappear, like all the other Xfactor "celebrities". They don't deserve a page, because they haven't done anything. Come back when they have a couple of singles and an album on the way. Until then, a mention on the Xfactor page is sufficient --A Chain of Flowers (talk) 00:14, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
They have mediocre singing voices, but they have star power, and I think they will be around for a long time. In any case, the current furore surrounding their X Factor run is reason enough to make them noteable. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 04:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

As a source of knowledge wikipedia has articles on anyhting and everything, flowers for example aren't famous but i bet they are in here. It is not about fame it is about what people want to know about. I wonder how did the people wanting to delete this found it? Yes, it is because they wanted to look at it. If in a years time no one cares anymore then this will fade away, it doen't do any harm to leave this page in.188.221.127.121 (talk) 16:43, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

appearance updates

Can someone Update appearances:

G-A-Y in London on 28th November

Ref: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1231819/Crowds-lap-Jedward-strut-stuff-GAY.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrYv_suRLSI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6UJoifKTGI

Davidfgthfan (talk) 02:14, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


Can someone update appearances:

On Sunday 13th December the boys presented their own show for Channel 4, 4music "Jedward's Reality Riot" in which they counted down their top 20 music acts from reality TV programmes.

Ant and Dec Christmas Special ITV Boxing Day

Graham Norton Show New Years Eve, with Sarah Jessica Parker & Joan Rivers Guests

It has also been reported that Jedward have landed their own fly-on-the-wall reality TV show to premier in the early part of 2010.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/news/a191798/jedward-land-itv2-reality-show-deal.html

Kimmois (talk) 18:21, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Appearance update: Can someone please add?

John and Edward are to be the headline act at the National Television Awards - January 20th 2010. This will be televised on ITV.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8453657.stm

Kimmois (talk) 16:41, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Name change

I'm not sure Jedward is the best name for the article, would it not be better as John and Edward or John and Edward Grimes. What do others think? Petepetepetepete (talk) 18:41, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Jedward is the most common name for these two individuals and so, as per WP:COMMONNAME, it is an appropriate name for this article. Adambro (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm not convinced it is the more commonly used name, a google search for Jedward returns 27,000,000 results, John and Edward brings up 109,000,000. Petepetepetepete (talk) 19:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I think it should be moved due to Petepetepetepete's reason. Bravedog (talk) 13:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
I moved it to John & Edward because that is the correct name for the duo. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed. I can't say I'm too bothered either way but since I don't see any need to rush things, it would have probably been helpful to have waited a little longer to discuss things. The correct title would surely be whatever consensus emerged from this discussion decided it to be and that could quite feasibly be either the official and more formal "John & Edward", or "Jedward", the nickname they've acquired. The reason I felt that Jedward might be appropriate was as I've explained above, but also based upon my own awareness of these two. I can't say I have much (any) real interest in The X Factor so haven't followed things closely and, as an outsider, knew them more as "Jedward" than "John & Edward", and I assume this will depend on the degree to which particular individuals have followed The X Factor. Nevertheless, as I've said, I don't have strong feelings either way but just think the naming isn't as clear cut as perhaps describing "John & Edward" as the correct title implies. Adambro (talk) 15:26, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
I think it would be inappropriate to name an article using a nickname, and Jedward redirects here so that's not a problem. I actually didn't know there was a discussion when I moved the page - I planned on moving it anyway as soon as the AFD was closed (as long as the article was kept). AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
"Jedward returns 27,000,000 results, John and Edward brings up 109,000,000." - I bet you 27m of those Jedward results were about Jedward, while most of the 109m "John and Edward" results aren't relevant. I did a modified search using "john and edward" x-factor for the search terms and got a little over 4m...although Jedward still gives fewer results so I guess the point is moot, although I still wonder how many of the "john and edward" ones are relevant :-P 78.86.230.62 (talk) 13:23, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Corrigan Brothers

An Irish group the same one who sang the 2008 novelty song There's No One as Irish as Barack O'Bama have release a similar novelty song this time dedicated to Jedward this should be added. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl50RPLsybg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.2.55 (talk) 14:10, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Single/album release

Given that the first single Under Pressure (Ice Ice Baby) and presumably the upcoming album and further singles are to be released under the name "Jedward", i think its appropriate that the article be named Jedward, since the name is no longer just a popular short-form rather one that has been chosen by the record label. Fraz303 (talk) 17:32, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Helpful if you check existing discussions. I brought this up in a new section already. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:11, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

The Saturday Night Show

{{Editprotected}} It says "They appeared on the Friday Night With Jonathan Ross show on the 29 January 2010, talking about life after the X-Factor and their forthcoming single release" which is biased in favour of Britain and their Irish. Please put their apperance on The Saturday Night Show on the 6th February 2010. There is proof if it is needed and its their first Tv performance too so plaese put it in someone is this how you do it!!! [6]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.216.205 (talk)

 Done —  Cargoking  talk  23:10, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Follow up to Under Pressure (Ice Ice Baby)

Jedward are set to releace a follow up to single Under Pressure (Ice Ice Baby) which features Vanilla Ice entitled I am a lesbian (I Don't Need This Pressure On) which features Opintial. Should I include this in the main article, the Jedward discography or both? 81.132.101.247 (talk) 20:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source you can cite? Adambro (talk) 20:24, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Here is my source[7]. I hope it is a reliable one. 81.132.101.247 (talk) 20:25, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Err... no. —  Cargoking  talk  21:39, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Irish television appearances

I see that their is now a section dedicated to John & Edward's television appearances. Why are their appearances on shows such as The Late Late Toy Show not included? They are famous in Ireland, too, which happens to be their homeland. Cleanupbabe (talk) 19:35, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Jedward

Since their single is being released under the name "Jedward" (confirmed by the single cover), should this page be moved back to Jedward as the now official name of the duo? We would note that they were known as John & Edward on The X Factor, etc. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:45, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Good point, the but X Factor is over. That was then, let's move on to now...they are now known as Jedward.Cleanupbabe (talk) 19:40, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Free Jedward Image

Does anyone no is there any Free Jedward Images that can be put on this article. Sfxprefects (talk) 17:42, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Other Television (Jedward on other Programmes)

Jedward were on Jedwards Reality Riot! Top 20 as themselves. On 4Music. I watched it this week and it was on two or three times in the last week. Plus it was on in Decembe, first aired Saturday 2oth December 9:05am. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.89.43 (talk) 21:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Not every TV appearance needs to be mentioned. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:14, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
To be perfectly honest, at least 3/4 of the television appearences section needs to go. This article is becoming bloated, and blown out of proportion, as people are finding and jumping on every tiny source. --A Chain of Flowers (talk) 12:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I completely agree, and since List of Jedward TV Appearances is a seemingly pointless article, I've nominated it for deletion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jedward TV Appearances. anemoneprojectors talk 13:38, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

New TV Appearances

Decide wether to add them to the table or to create a credits page similar to discography but for TV/Radio appearance

Wednesday 17th February MTV - Jedward Takeover: Hair-Raising 5pm

Thursday 18th February MTV - Jedward Takeover: Cowell's 9am and 5pm


Friday 19th February MTV - Jedward Takeover: Party Playlist 9am and 5pm

Sfxprefects (talk) 18:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Kimmois (talk) 18:46, 18 March 2010 (UTC) From March 18th Jedward will appear on ITV2 Celebrity Juice in special featured segments with comedian Leigh Francis http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/x_factor/2896891/Jedward-join-Leigh-Francis-on-Celebrity-Juice-on-ITV2.html


Jedward on Graham Norton Show Next Monday http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00sflvh

I would suggest that the regular slot on Celebrity Juice is probably worth mentioning, but the others aren't. TV interviews and such are unimportant (though can be cited if something important is mentioned). Otherwise articles would be huge with long lists of chat show appearances. AnemoneProjectors 19:09, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Born

I think they were born in Dublin not Cork, as it says in the article. JedwarddJesusxOx (talk) 11:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

The infobox says Dublin, the article says Cork. The source also confirms Dublin.[8] AnemoneProjectors 12:34, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

American Accents at Audition?

The British press frequently mentions that the brothers put on "faux-American" accents at one point in their X Factor audition. One of those British press articles is cited in the wikipedia article. The video, however, shows them coming out and speaking in an accent which sounded American to Simon Cowell and then, when he teases them, they switch for a moment to what sounds to American ears like an exaggerated Irish accent. The socalled "faux-American" accent sounds just like what Americans sound like when they are doing a faux-Irish accent. To a Yank (like me) they sound quite Irish during the whole interview. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 04:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

You just talked a whole crock of complete garbage, congratulations! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.142.139 (talk) 20:27, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

You made a good point about those accents, but to us in this part of the world, it does sound slightly American. That is how Southside Dubliners talk - half Irish, half Yankee.Cleanupbabe (talk) 19:39, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Cleanupbabe no we don't so stfu. Dylan (talk) 03:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Eurovision 2011

I just wanted to make it clear that I added the Jedwards Eurovision Song Contest 2011 attempt for Ireland as it has been confirmed that they will participate on February 11. As they will almost certainly win it makes it even more appropriate!--BabbaQ (talk) 22:22, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

It's appropriate but your opinion on how well they will do does not make it more so. AnemoneProjectors 22:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Clean up reverted

User:Unreal7 recently reverted most of what I had done in trimming down the overly detailed trivia in this article, more suited to a fanpage. Could s/he please detail why, as no explanations were supplied. Specifically;

  • Why is detailed reportage of exchanges in their first audition required? I had summarised events.
  • "constantly received negative press" is voicing an opinion. What if others think it not constant at all?
  • "Many people, including Cowell, believed that Walsh only put John & Edward through because they are Irish like him" - weaselly uncited claim. Who are these "Many people" and where is it said that Cowell believed this?
  • "they also had a fanbase that led to them surviving until week seven of the competition" More opinion. Where is this "fanbase" cited and where is it demonstrated that they are the reason they remained in the competition?
  • "Just days later" - POV phrasing. Using "Just" suggests to the reader that the time between events should be considered short.
  • "This episode was later hailed as "the most exciting X Factor ever" - Unattributed opinion. Who said this?
  • The description of their tie with Lucie Jones is overly complicated and confusing. It is enough to say they got through, she didn't.
  • "John & Edward were accused of having their singing drowned out by backing vocals," - uncited claim. Accused by who?
  • "When the voting figures were revealed after the end of the series..." - this is all original research. The cite is of raw figures. It does not perform any of the analysis given, and certainly does not offer any conclusions based on it.

Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 21:11, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Since Unreal7 is ignoring other editors attempts to discuss things, and is continuing to revert and edit without any explanation in the edit summary, I have reverted back my changes. I again invite Unreal7 to explain his/her position and help reach a consensus. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 23:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
And again. I really do not like reverting in this manner, but Unreal7 refuses to discuss things and is still reverting and editing without supplying even edit summaries. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 00:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 84.45.194.35, 13 April 2011

gareth tippins is Jedward 84.45.194.35 (talk) 15:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. — Bility (talk) 15:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 86.40.183.225, 14 April 2011

Please add Dana International to their fans under "reactions". Irish Examiner "In recent days German police have put in place armed protection around the Melia hotel where Jedward are staying because it is also the temporary home of Israeli entrant and 1998 winner Dana International, with whom the Dublin pair have struck up a friendship" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.183.225 (talk)

Not done: I'm not seeing how we can stretch a mention of their friendship to Dana being a fan. I think we need her to say she's a fan, or she loves their music, or something of that nature, before we can consider her a fan. — Bility (talk) 20:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Parents

The article currently states that their parents are separated, but Edward Grimes stated that their parents are still together in an interview for this Irish Independent Article. ("Mum and Dad have not broken up, that's on Wikipedia but it’s not true, they are as together now as they ever were"). The Irish Independent is a more reputable publication than the magazine currently referenced in the article in which 'sources' claimed the parents had split. The also a direct quote, rather than hearsay, so I'm deleting the statement in the article. ANB (talk) 02:05, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Confused statement

The section Other work starts with the ambiguous claim "In December 2009, Jedward fronted a radio campaign promoting Irish tourism in the UK." This needs clarifying, as it's not clear whether the adverts were broadcast in the UK to encourage people to visit Eire, or vice-versa. Either it should read "In December 2009, Jedward fronted a UK radio campaign promoting Ireland as a tourist destination" or "...fronted an Irish radio campaign promoting the UK as a tourist destination." Does anyone know which way round it was? ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 13:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Mis-information on Jedward site

Please note - the statement that Jedward are touring with Shakin' Stevens in 2011 are untrue. If you need more confirmation of this then please contact Shaky's manager Sue Davies through contactus@shakinstevens.com or contant her through www.shakinstevens.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Takeone71 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Removed. It was uncited and probably someone's idea of a joke. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:34, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Contradiction regarding Robbie Williams & John & Edward

The article states that 'Many celebrities have also commented on the Jedward phenomenon.[3] Their fans include Calvin Harris,[4][5][6][7] Andy Murray,[8] Peaches Geldof,[9] Pixie Lott and Robbie Williams', however it later states that "[...]while Leona Lewis and Robbie Williams worry about them". To me this reads as though Robbie William both likes, yet also dislikes them, am i reading this wrong, or is this something someone should clean up in the article? Redirect Left (talk) 23:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Since when does worrying about someone mean you dislike them? Although I'd be pretty worried if I were Jedward, you have to worry when Robbie Williams worries about you :-) 78.86.230.62 (talk) 13:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

jedward was born october 6th 1991 thry are 20 years old now:') they are also known as johnand edward grimes :) the sang water line in the eurovison2012. and in 2011 they sang lipstick:) I would just like to add, after Calvin Harris stormed the stage to mock Jedward whilst dancing around with a pinapple on his head and then later saying in a tweet "At the end of the day, I had a pineapple on my head. Sorry if I caused anyone embarrassment. Ps. I love Jedward." It is quite incredibly obvious that he is being sarcastic. In this article http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/calvin-sorry-for-jedward-stunt-1943856.html He should not be listed as a fan.--87.244.100.248 (talk) 21:05, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

It's their birthday

I can't increment their age, but if anyone else can.. 2.125.127.106 (talk) 10:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

You don't have to increment their age. It happens automatically. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 20:29, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Emphasis on X Factor days

A lot of the material in this article dates back to just after their X Factor stint and I was wondering if people thought it was a little too weighted with material from that period? In particular, the week-by-week description of their time on XF seems a little excessive two years on, when Jedward have done a lot of other non-XF related stuff since. The "Reactions" section is also dominated by reactions to their time on that show, not subsequent activities like Eurovision (which has a very different audience to XF). Might the XF section, in particular, be trimmed? The article is quite long already. ANB (talk) 17:06, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

UEFA Euro 2012

{{Request edit}} Jedward have recorded a single for UEFA Euro 2012 called "Put Your Green Cape On", penned by Colm Hayes.[1]

  1. ^ "Colm Hayes pens Euro 2012 single for Jedward". RTÉ. 1 February 2012. Retrieved 1 February 2012.
 Done --andy4789 ★ · (talk? contribs?) 22:38, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Jedward are the nicest people you ever meet :) WHY DO YOU DISLIKE THEM? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedwardforever08 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Template renamed

{{XFactorContestants}} has been renamed {{The X Factor contestants}}

There is no need to change the article, because template redirects work fine. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Jedward caught watching porn

Jedward have been caught watching porn according to this link[9] now I am a big Jedward fan, and I don't like to give them bad press but this is fact and wikipedia is fact. Therefore it should be added to the article. Jack Quinn UK (talk) 14:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

You're kidding, right? -- Jack1755 (talk) 14:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
No. If it happened it's notable enough for the article. Is'nt it? Jack Quinn UK (talk) 16:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
No. It doesn't seem to have been reported by the mainstream media and we have a higher threshold for inclusion than the gutter press. Does the source pass WP:RS either? – Toon 17:03, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
I would think so. Jack Quinn UK (talk) 17:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't sound like the kind of thing that should be included here. UnrealityTV is not a reliable source, and lots of people watch porn, so what's so special about this? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I will abort the proposed edit. Jack Quinn UK (talk) 16:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
  1. its a blog, is that notable?
  2. who doesnt? :P —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.61.111.53 (talk) 13:04, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

What type of porn was it? 63.3.2.1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:54, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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Accuracy

They were signed to Next models briefly, they aren't any more.

There currently isn't a forth studio album.

Active website is planetjedward.com 


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Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2019

the fourth studio album is called "Voice of a Rebel," and it came out a couple months ago. Vadim Anteros (talk) 09:30, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. Please make a precise request and provide reliable sources for any information. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:34, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Stage Section needed a rewrite

This section needed work as it read like it's not been touched for a while. It claimed that their pantos at the Olympia Theatre, Dublin were still going on but only recorded the 2010 through 2013 shows. At some point post 2013 they seem to have stopped however and it looks like 2013 was their last as Google found me:

So I'm going to update this section once I've posted this.

Paulatthehug (talk) 21:53, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

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