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Merger[edit]

I don't think that a merger is appropriate. "Model 2" describes a design philosophy for WebApps. It is not necessarily linked to a certain view technology (JSP). You can (in theory) create a model 2 application while using another technology like Velocity as well (there are many very good MVC / Model 2 frameworks, so I wouldn't call this approach pratical). AnimalFriend 09:08, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it should not be merged. (Model 1) is not really used any more, the name (Model 1) and (Model 2) has only historical significance. May be the page title could be changed to 'Model 2 Request Handling(Web)'. Ervinn 14:02, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This page is misleading[edit]

This page is misleading. MVC model 2 is a pattern. This page makes it sound like its specific to Java at best or JSP at worst. I suggest this page is removed and model1 and model2 explained briefly under model-view-controller NickHollingsworth (talk) 16:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Criticisms[edit]

I'd like to add a "criticism" section for completeness, but I need help.

A common criticism of Model 2 is that even in an MVC context, it does not truly achieve the MVC paradigm. The reason commonly stated is that eventing is missing in Model 2. i.e. If the model is updated, there is no event generated to let the page know to re-render. The software must wait for the user to refresh the page, thus polling the model for updates.

While I have heard this criticism many times, I cannot find a suitable reference for the article. Does anyone have at least a blog entry or a published article that makes this criticism? Please keep in mind that forum posts are a non-starter.

If you know of any other supportable criticisms, please add them to the article.

Thanks in advance! Jbanes (talk) 05:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

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Move discussion in progress[edit]

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