Talk:Ishikawa Goemon

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Dollars?!?!?[edit]

"A magnificent view! A magnificent view! For this view of spring, a million dollars would be too low a price, too low a price!"

^^^^^^^^^

There were no dollars back then!!

That is not in this article; if it was, it's fixed. You are right when you say that there were no dollars in Japan. The samurai and daimyō were paid by thousands of koku, a years' supply of rice. Ishikawa Goemon could not seal that, because he would have to besiege the farmland, enslave all the rice farmers, and keep all the rice for himself. He was a bandit, not a fighter.
You might be talking about the video game Samurai Warriors. If so, post your comment on that talk page, please. And don't forget to sign with ~~~~. -BlueCaper (talk) 17:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mystical Incense Burner?[edit]

This sounds more like fantasy than fact. The knocking the bell off the table sounds much more realistic and likely than a mystical incense burner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.126.63 (talk • contribs) 15:25, January 17, 2007

That came from this webpage but I have no clue what the source for the website was. It does say at the bottom "I do not think this page's contents are perfectly correct!!" Tocharianne 17:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another version[edit]

On (I think it was) Toyotomi Hideyoshi's page, it said that Ishikawa Goemon tried to purloin a prized bird of his, but the bird sang, and Goemon was detected. I did not put that as a version because I do not have the full story. Can someone help me figure out the part after Goemon's detection in this version? Thanks. -BlueCaper (talk) 17:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another version reference (2)[edit]

It came from a website that violated the copyrights of a GameFAQs website (see User:BlueCaper/Reminders; #1). As long as Wikipedia does not directly use the FAQ page's information, it should be fine. However, I will email the FAQ page creator about the vilation and permission to use this information on Wikipedia. I will probably gian approval, since Wikipedia is non-profit. -BlueCaper (talk) 01:40, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Popular culture (to be rewritten)[edit]

  • A character available in the Dynasty Warriors spin-off game series Samurai Warriors and Warriors Orochi.
  • The fictional character Goemon Ishikawa XIII of the manga and cartoon series/movie/special Lupin III is purported to be Ishikawa Goemon's descendant.
  • He has been the subject of many Kabuki plays.
  • He was the subject of Tomoyoshi Murayama's Shinobi no Mono novels, which in the 1960s became a film series starring Raizo Ichikawa as Ishikawa.
  • A new Goemon movie is scheduled for 2009; it is directed by Kazuaki Kiriya.
  • He is mentioned in connection with the Sanmon Gate at the Nanzen Temple in Yukio Mishima's work The Temple of the Golden Pavilion.[1]
  • He is the main character in a video game series produced by Konami known as Ganbare Goemon in Japan and as Mystical Ninja elsewhere.
  • He is a character in the Koei Samurai Warriors game series, wielding a mace and with a cannon on his back. He was omitted from the second game. However, he appeared in the spin-off series Warriors Orochi.
  • He is claimed to be the ancestor of Goemon Ishikawa XIII in the Lupin III movies, the first in a lineage of renegade samurai. In one of the Lupin TV movies, Burn, Zantetsuken!, the opening sequence shows Goemon Ishikawa XIII weeping while watching the famed kabuki performance based on his ancestor's life.
  • He appears in the third and fourth episodes of the anime series Divergence Eve: Misaki Chronicles where it is hinted that he is a lineal ancestor of the title character, Kureha Misaki.
  • In a Neo Geo fighting game called Ninja Master's, Goemon appears as one of the selectable characters. This rendition of him, however, carries a large cannonesque gun that he uses in battle.
  • Japanese pro wrestler Koji Nakagawa regularly portrays a character named GOEMON, who is loosely based on Ishikawa Goemon.

References

  1. ^ Mishima, Yukio (1959), The Temple of the Golden Pavilion, translated by Ivan Morris, New York: Alfred A. Knopf

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Date of death ?[edit]

Many sources list his execution as August 24th. Can this be confirmed ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg Holden 08 (talk • contribs) 08:52, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Source of original legend[edit]

This article doesn't mention which story or stories are the source of the Goemon legends. All of the citations are for modern works. The earliest story mentioned in the article is the kabuki play from 1778. Surely the Goemon legend is older than that. Does anyone know which story is the original source of the Goemon legends? --49.192.183.210 (talk) 07:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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