Talk:IEEE 12207

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Merge[edit]

See Talk:ISO 12207 for more discussion.

IEEE 12207 and ISO 12207 should definitely be merged – there is no reason for two separate articles. The two topics can be mentioned as sections within the same article, which I suggest is the international one. -- MightyWarrior 14:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IEEE 12207 and ISO 12207 are related, but are not technically equivalent. IEEE 12207 is intended to be a "clarification, additions and changes accepted by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) and Electronics Industries Alliance (EIA). According to IEEE/EIA 12207.0-1996, Annex I, Relationships, The ISO/IEC 12207 "...establishes a common framework for the life cycle of software..." and "does not specify the detailed implementation of those processes;". The IEEE 12207 tends to be more detailed than the framework of the ISO 12207. It probably should remain separate, due to both stand alone. Schrades 21:18, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IEEE 12207 and ISO 12207 are related, but are substantially different. IEEE 12207 incorporates the process descriptions of ISO 12207 with several other important software lifecycle aspects from Department of Defense military standard MIL-STD-498. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.27.17.4 (talk) 13:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IEEE 12207 and ISO 12207 should not be merged. Although IEEE 12207 includes ISO 12207, the IEEE version provides significantly more implementation details. In addition, it appears that the content of the two standards may diverge in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rewiki (talk • contribs) 03:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IEEE 12207 nee IEEE 12207.0 is outdated and superseded. IEEE 12207:2008 is the current standard and is the same as ISO 12207, which in that article actually refers to ISO/IEC 12207:2008. References: http://www.12207.com/12207-news.htm, http://www.acm.org/tsc/lifecycle.html, http://www.math.unipd.it/~tullio/IS-1/2009/Approfondimenti/ISO_12207-2008.pdf. ISO 12207 should be updated to fully reflect the 2008 merger of the two standards, and should incorporate (merge) the IEEE 12207 verbiage. The IEEE 12207 page should be removed, or be retitled 12207.0 and clearly reflect that it discusses an old, out of date document. 216.243.176.75 (talk) 17:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Six years on from the last comment, it is appropriate to review the status quo, given that there is an imminent new release of ISO/IEC/IEEE 12207 - not least with the introduction of a Part 2 to include more of the detail. Andrew D Banks (talk) 12:45, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]