Talk:Hazelton, British Columbia

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Filling in the blanks[edit]

I'm just getting a start on this, will work on it for the next few days, filling in the blanks, adding references ect. What this article needs beyond what I can do for it is someone knowledgeable in the first nations history of the area. There was little in this article on that topic before and I have little to add to it. Glad someone rated it of mid importance. Hazelton was a huge part of the history of Northern British ColumbiaCindyBo 09:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your excellent work here (I was the one who rated it 'mid' -- could even be 'high'). I have a basic grasp of some of the Gitxsan history here and have added a few of the surrounding communities (only as stubs so far -- Kispiox and Gitseguecla). We are certainly in need of a resident expert in these matters, but I'll add to it as I can. Thanks again.--Keefer | Talk 00:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try and finish with Cline tomorrow, but after that I could be tapped. It could be that the Gunanoot article needs a page of its own, but it would be a hard story to explain in just a paragraph or two, same as the robberies. I've also worried if verifibilty might become a factor in either of those stories, they are widely published, but with different dates ect. With the robberies I used Eva MacLean's version, as compared to some other slightly different ones. For one thing she was the only one who had the date right in her book, which can be proved by looking at the pictures, for another she was Dan MacLean's wife and was there at the time. Certainly with Gunanoot, there are many different versions and dates. Again, I tried to keep to the most reputable sources.CindyBo 06:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm finally starting to understand the principles of wikipedia a little better. So I'll move the Gunanoot article to its own page. And maybe the robberies too.CindyBo 00:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I moved Gunanoot, left just a link to main article. I have no clue how to summarize that story into a paragraph. Haven't moved the robbery stuff, should it have its own page? If so what to call it?CindyBo 01:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I finished the Cline main article, linked it etc. Still not sure what to do about robberies section. Make it a main article or leave it. Suggestions?CindyBo 09:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with robberies solved, I moved the bulk of it to New Hazelton, British Columbia.CindyBo ^talk 03:50, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs split[edit]

User:CindyBo, who we haven't seen in a while due to married bliss, made a valiant effort with so many northern BC articles, and I know this Hazelton article took a lot of work. But it definitely needs splitting - the village and district are two different entities, and Old Hazelton/Gitanmaax is a separate entity also. "Greater Hazelton" is pretty much what this article is about; I've recently made stubs for 'Ksan and Hagwilget etc and have been deliberating on what to say on Skeena Country, pending finding a citation for that usage (vs "Skeena Valley"; as time/energy permits I guess I'll start a "Hazelton Directory" on this talkpage to try and keep track of them all; hopefully when User:Pfly or another mapmaker gets a chance we can get a local-area map made....Skookum1 (talk) 16:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Population[edit]

At the start of the article it says population of 1356. But on the right side it says 293. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geraldpringle (talk • contribs) 06:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's because the infobox is only for the village; see section above, and the new section below.Skookum1 (talk) 18:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Hazeltons = name change proposed[edit]

I keep on seeing this group of communities referred to as "the Hazeltons" in a lot of online sources/text references; given that there are two distinct municipal entities - Hazelton and new Hazelton - and also Gitanmaax is known as Old Hazelton, it would seem that a group article is needed on the one hand, and separate articles for each of the Hazelton entries are called for. I've also polled for someone to make up a local map showing all the "Hazelton Metro"/"Greater Hazelton" communities. This is also a case in point of something I call "census apartheid" where the true population of a "regional community' can only be surmised by adding together municipal and adjoining-IR populations plus the EA populations of EAs adjoining the munis or, as at Bella Coola, where there are no municipaliteis, the EA population(s) and those of the IRs; other similar cases are at Lillooet, Lytton, Chilliwack, Alert Bay and various others. In Lillooet's case if I'm not mistaken the combined population of the three IRs adjoining the District of Lillooet are greater than that of the muni itself, though outlying non-native communities along the Texas Creek Road and "up Yalakom" maybe balance that out; where to "cut off" such "metro" areas is hard to say - Shalalth/Seton at the far end of Seton Lake is very much part of the Greater Lillooet community, but not physically contiguous, and the same is true of the Foutain Valley/Fountain IR....anyway back ot the Hazeltons there are, what? - six reserves/villages surrounding hte municipalities? And how many non-natives living in the surrounding EA nearby? "Area populations" or something are needed in the infoboxes to reflect these realites, Census Canada's divisions notwithstanding...I'll raise this issue somewhere on the WPCanada discussion apges, presumably on the Communities subproject talkpage, I just haven't gotten to it yet.Skookum1 (talk) 18:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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