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Discography table formatting[edit]

Is there any special reason for formatting the release dates so that they are right-aligned? It looks weird to me. Why not save a lot of hassle and use the default formatting for the table as a whole and just use "center-align" for the chart ranking column? Also, is it really necessary to number the single and album releases? It looks rather arbitrary to me, as if releases don't deserve numbers, why are they included in the list? --DAJF (talk) 09:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about the alignment of the release dates, just looks better to me. Can you point to an example of what you want the table to look like? To a discography article of some very famous artist, where many editors worked on presenting it in a clear and comprehensive way. --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:10, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The release numbers are not assigned arbitrary by me. Her upcoming single is called the "5th single" in several sources, so I think they should be numbered, as they are in the Japanese Wikipedia in individual articles for each single. I'm not sure about her albums, I just took the numbers from the Japanese Wikipedia, but they look correct to me cause her Ai! Mai! Main! albums have numbers already in their titles and she hasn't released any non-Ai! Mai! Main! ones. The numbers in the tables show which ones are solo works. When you removed them, the tables just stopped being visualy clear. (I can add the numbers to the tables in the Japanese Wikipedia so you can see if anyone objects. Actually, I will add them, along with chart positions, sooner or later anyway.) And what do you mean by "releases don't deserve numbers"? Japanese artists number everything. --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:10, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying. The standard table format recommended for discographies can be seen at WP:DISCOGSTYLE, and a quick check of some of the major music artist articles shows that they all seem to follow this. I can't find any articles off-hand where dates have been right-aligned, which is not particularly surprising. Anyway, I think we ought to make the effort to follow the recommended format in this article too.

By "if releases don't deserve numbers" in my original comment, I was referring to the one single and two albums that you decided don't deserve numbers. I'm afraid it still looks rather arbitrary and not really appropriate for an encyclopedia. What they do or don't do over at Japan Wikipedia does not have much relevance here, so maybe we should solicit opinions from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discographies. --DAJF (talk) 00:34, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you. I will read the guidelines and reply in a few days. I think there's no reason not to enumerate Haruka Fukuhara's singles. Everything that is relevant to any reliable source in any language is relevant to Wikipedia. Sources say that the upcoming single is her 5th, I think it's enough to state it in the table. To make it more clear which are her solo releases, I can make separate pages for solo singles, duets, compilations, mini albums (the only EP that she released), etc. But it would look much worse. If I separate the albums like that, the albums won't need to be enumerated. But the singles, I think, should be. I don't really want to start discussions about it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discographies, cause Western artists they know don't enumerate their releases, and I would have to show them how all releases by idol groups are officially enumerated. It would be a waste of time, and a result may be that I will have to defend other discographies too. Let's compromise: I will separate her solo releases and leave numbers only for singles. I think it's reasonable. And concerning the release dates, I will look at other discographies in a few days and see how they are formatted. --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:28, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've already looked at some discographies, which all only list release years. I think it's not a good idea. These were released only in Japan, there's no problem in listing exact dates. By the way, discographies I saw use extensive table formatting and have lots and lots of notes and footnotes, and use other tricks like smaller fonts and notes in brackets, list sales certifications in several different ways, so there are no strict rules. I think I will look at how birthdates are listed to use it as a reference. There surely are plenty of well sought after lists of Olympic athletes. But not now, in a few days. --Moscow Connection (talk) 04:18, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the tables now. Only her single numbers are left. I still think it was better when the release dates were aligned to the right, though. --Moscow Connection (talk) 07:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That certainly looks like an improvement to me. Thanks for taking the time to rearrange the tables. --DAJF (talk) 09:44, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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