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So which is it? re: dealerships[edit]

The article says "Aaron also owns Mini, Jaguar, Land Rover, Toyota, Hyundai and Honda dealerships throughout Georgia, as part of the Hank Aaron Automotive Group. Aaron sold all but the Toyota dealership in 2007.[29]" They can't both be true...should that first sentence be in the past tense?

Stats[edit]

Remember folks this is an ENCYCLOPEDIA... not a freaking baseball statistics book. you need to EXPLAIN this stuff as you would to a 6yr old who doesnt know the material. Also this needs some SERIOUS reformatting and wikifying. Alkivar 22:44, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

  • Thank you for the wonderful work on the league leader statistics. I always thought they looked ugly, but did not know what to do. I honestly think the page is in pretty good shape now. It needs a little more wikifying, but that is hardly grounds for a cleanup notice. The rest is clear and easy to follow now in my opinion. What do you think? Indrian 01:41, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)
a cleanup notice simply means it needs to have data sorted into a more "pretty" view in my opinion. and to break things down into more sub-sections for ease of browsing. As it is there are WAAAAAY too many text only charts that should be turned into linked tables. see below for more of what i'm talking about Alkivar 02:06, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
1957 NL
GAMES               T6TH   151
AT BATS             5TH    615
RUNS                1ST    118
HITS                2ND    198
SINGLES             8TH    121
HOMERUNS            1ST     44
HR/100 OUTS         1ST    10.14
HR/100 PA           2ND     6.52
HR/100 AB           3RD     7.15
RBI                 1ST    132
AVERAGE             4TH    .322
SLG                 3RD    .600
OBA                 9TH    .378
OPS                 3RD     .978
RUNS CREATED        2ND    135
RCAA                T1ST    66
RCAP                2ND     64
OWP                 2ND    .772
RUNS CREATED/GAME   3RD     8.40
TOTAL BASES         1ST    369
EXTRA BASE HITS     3RD     77
ISOLATED POWER      4TH    .278
SECONDARY AVERAGE   6TH    .371
TOTAL AVERAGE       3RD     .988
BPA                 3RD    .612
INTENTIONAL WALKS   T2ND    15
PLATE APPEARANCES   T7TH   675
OUTS                T9TH   434
Yeah I've just put in a one-line text box now that doesn't take up much space. Lots of players do have a stats line somewhere in their articles. Mglovesfun 14:45, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

there are entirely too many charts like this that belong as HTML tables. plus there are many terms which a non baseball fan would not know. RBI,SLG,OBA,OPS,RCAA,RCAP,OWP,BPA (while obvious to you and me may not be obvious to someone only peripherally informed about baseball) and some of these statistics have their own entry pages on WIKI ... link to a few. And if you cant find em DEFINE em :) Alkivar 02:06, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

  • Well, HTML tables are not my forte, so I will have to leave that to someone else probably. As for the stats, I will get on that. I am sorry I have been a bit difficult the last couple of days. I am not usually so stubborn when it comes to editing articles; I honestly do not know what came over me. Indrian 14:20, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Statistics[edit]

I think we ought to delete the tables of statistics on this page and let the external links point to pages with statistics. Gorrister 18:50, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • I do understand this sentiment, but I also see no harm in keeping the statistics since wikipedia has the space for it. The statistics provide a good measure of a player's worth at a glance and allow a lot of numerical information to be covered in a simple and straightforward manner that would take paragraphs of text to convey properly. Indrian 21:45, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

Last negro league player to make major leagues[edit]

Aaron was in fact the last negro league player to make it to the major leagues. Aaron was drafted before Banks - 1952 vs. 1953, but Banks made it to the majors in 1953 vs. Aaron who made it in 1954. The [Negro league players association] website states that Aaron was the last. Gorrister 12:10, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Inconsistencies[edit]

Why does the beginning of the article mention that he appeared in 25 All-star games, but twice later in the article say only 24 all-star appearences? Furthermore, how could he have made 24 all-star games if he played 23 seasons ('54-'76)?

Not sure about the inconsistancies, but for a couple of years there were two All-star games in the season.Gorrister 28 June 2005 21:45 (UTC)
He appeared in 25 All Star Games (Every season from 1955-1975). There were two games in the years 1959-1962. I will correct.Indrian June 28, 2005 23:11 (UTC)

Revert by Alkivar[edit]

Perhaps someone would care to explain why the fact that Mr. Aaron gave out the award named in his honor during the 2004 postseason is in any way important to his life, career, or legacy? This does not seem like something that belongs in an encyclopedia article. Indrian 00:39, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Its quite uncommon thats why. The awards have been given out for a long time (nearly 20 years?)... this is the FIRST and ONLY time he was there to personally hand it out. It certainly belongs more to the article than the fact that he voiced a character in Futurama, or runs a BMW Car Dealership, or has an Erdős number of 1. At least the fact he handed out the award named after him is BASEBALL related.  ALKIVAR™ 03:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll buy that, but I think the article needs to make note of the special circumstances of the event, otherwise it does just appear to be a random and useless fact.Indrian 23:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Catholicism[edit]

I have read that Aaron converted to Catholicism after reading Thomas à Kempis's 'The Imitation of Christ'. Can anybody corroborate this? JackofOz 02:35, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

League Leader charts[edit]

I know this has come up before, but in my opinion the league leader charts make this page less readable and contain a lot on unnecessary information (do we really need to know that Aaron was second in the NL in GIDP in 1955?). Someone in the peer review mentioned that if these charts were moved to there own page they would be deleted, as wikipedia is not a baseball statistics guide. I agree. What is, however, a baseball statistics guide is Baseball-Reference.com. This page contains a link to Aaron's Baseball-Reference page, as do most player bios on Wikipedia. All of this info and more is contained on that page. As long as the link text makes clear that it is a page of statistics, people will know where to find them. Thoughts? --djrobgordon 17:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can I take the silence to mean that everyone has come around to an identical point of view, or just that nobody wants to argue about this anymore? I still plan on drastically cutting down on the number of charts on this page, but I'm in a bit of a tift over at Babe Ruth and really don't have the time for multiple edit wars. Now's your chance to tell me what the league leader charts do that sentences can't. --djrobgordon 18:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abdul Jabbar reference[edit]

The article on Hank Aaron suggests that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar holds the distinction of having the last name which would come first alphabetically. Alaa Abdelnaby, however, would come first. Abdelnaby played in the early 90s. The misstatement about Abdul-Jabbar does not appear to be on the Abdul-Jabbar page, however.

Part of this article are copied from ESPN[edit]

Not that this isn't common on Wikipedia but a portion of this article read word-for-word with this article from ESPN. Perhaps if someone has time they can copyedit it. Anger22 13:47, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Great... Ladydayelle 14:09, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

All star appearances[edit]

"24 All-Star appearances over 21 seasons"

How is this possible? I count that he played 23 seasons, so most likely that should be 21 appearances in 23? Can someone confirm this? Mglovesfun 15:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • From 1959 to 1962, two all star games were played every year. Indrian 15:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sadaharu Oh[edit]

The article currently notes that "Hank Aaron is second behind Japanese baseball player Sadaharu Oh (868) as the all time home run hitter in recorded baseball history." Since the Sadaharu Oh entry itself points out that Oh's record is not comparable to a MLB record due to smaller ballparks, different bats, etc. I'd like to change this article to read "Hank Aaron is second behind Japanese baseball player Sadaharu Oh (868) as the all time home run hitter in recorded baseball history; however, their records are not directly comparable due to differences between American and Japanese ballparks and equipment." Any objections/suggestions? Mrquizzical 04:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, Oh shouldn't even be mentioned, except maybe in the Trivia section. The records are, indeed, not comprable, and giving the comparison such a prominent place in this article doesn't provide a baseball novice with an accurate perspective of Aaron's place in the game's history. --djrobgordon 04:32, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. It would get a little wordy to try and explain in the flow of the article. The Trivia section would be a good place for it. Heck, let's let Hank have a few final months of glory before the Barry Bonds fans rip this article to shreds next season.  :) -- dakern74 (talk) 04:37, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Change made. Thanks for the feedback. Mrquizzical 03:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clean-Up Coming[edit]

This article is in some major work. I am trying my best to balance the idea of verifiable information with what I do not know. As such, I will try and add the [verification needed] code where applicable. It would probably help if someone could double check the sources. I don't want to expunge work that has been cited, but I am not sure the best research was done. Oh yeah, I moved the page as well... his name was Henry Aaron not Hank Aaron :-). Thoughts/ideas/comments ??? --Tecmobowl 12:12, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hank or Henry?[edit]

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) suggests to use the name that is most generally recognisable. I am certainly not an expert on baseball, but it is my impression that "Hank Aaron" is infinitely more recognisable than "Henry Aaron". (Google says: 10 times more)

As an example, our guideline on naming conventions gives Billy Joel rather than his full name William Martin Joel; the full name is mentioned in the article, but (currently) not even a redirection.

--Aleph4 14:33, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He is referred to as "Hank Aaron" far more times that he is by "Henry Aaron." To provide other examples similar to what is presented above, there are articles for "Ted Williams" (Birth name Theodore Samuel Williams), "Babe Ruth" (Birth name George Herman Ruth), Peggy Fleming (Birth name Margaret Gail Fleming) and former US president Bill Clinton (Birth name William Jefferson Clinton). The article should be called 'Hank Aaron." 

Ladydayelle 15:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it was very bad form to move this page without discussing it first. As pointed out above, the more recognizable name is preferred by Wikipedia, and that is undoubtably Hank, not Henry. Unless further compelling reason can be given as to why this name change should stand, I will move it back in a few days. Indrian 21:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is important to recognize that wikipedia does not "prefer" one over the other. That article is a suggestion. That being said, if there is an overwhelming consensus one way or the other then just change it back (it ain't that hard). I do not think that google search results should be considered at all when discussing this issue, if you remove the quotation marks, the results would weigh heavily in the direction of Henry over Hank. I am familiar with the Naming conventions. I do not think that people really believe Cher's name is only one word. Rather, she has been identified by that to the public. Similarly, I do not think people have confused Babe with George (as in Ruth). I do think that people have come to believe that Hank was his birth name. I even went so far as to look it up in a major encyclopedia that we have and under Hank Aaron it said: see Henry L. Aaron. In any event, have at it.Tecmobowl 01:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, it does not matter whether this was the right decision or not: moving any page on a significant topic with a large editing history to a new name simply should not be undertaken without first having a discussion to determine consensus. Making such a move without consultation really is just bad form. I know you were not being a vandal and were acting in good faith, so please do not take this as an attack. Second, your given reason for moving ("I do think that people have come to believe that Hank was his birth name.") makes no sense, because the article heading clearly gives his name as Henry Louis Aaron. Even if someone comes to a page called Hank Aaron thinking that is his real first name, once they start reading the article, it becomes immediately clear this is not so. Third, while I do not want to get into a technical debate on the definition of words in the English language, the phrase "The most used name to refer to a person is generally the one that Wikipedia will choose as page name" from Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) indicates that the most recognized name is the one most often used on wikipedia, which by defintion makes it a preference even if that word is not used. Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) also indicates a preference for the most commonly used name. While that page is not an official policy, just a guideline, it still enjoys a broad consensus, which means it still has great weight, and dismissing it out of hand as a "suggestion" is rather disingenuous. Fourth, I have no idea what "major" encyclopedia you used, but the Encyclopedia Britannica, Microsoft Encarta, Microsoft Complete Baseball, the Ballplayers, Baseball: The Biographical Encyclopedia, Total Baseball, the New Biographical History of Baseball, Baseballreference.com, baseballlibrary.com, and retrosheet.com all contain entries on Aaron under the name Hank Aaron, not Henry Aaron. If that is not a ringing endorsement for what the scholarly baseball community considers to be the proper name to use in an article about Aaron, I don't know what is. Indrian 15:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks for sharing. It's wiki... why don't you try and fix the situation rather than just complain about it. You might even want to try and contribute to the article.Tecmobowl 22:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. You need to calm down and keep things civil here so as not to violate a policy or two. I do plan on moving the page back to its original location, but unlike you, I am waiting to give some time for discussion on the matter and am waiting a couple of days to make sure there is no serious objection. Also, I have contributed to this article, and many others on wikipedia, and there is no need to lash out at me in such a childish manner. If you want to continue civil and serious discussion on this matter, I am happy to join you; if you consider the subject closed, that is fine to, but if you respond to this message with another unproductive retort, I will just ignore it. I can see by looking at your talk page that you have had some trouble getting along with others in the past, and I would suggest modifying your attitude a little to have a more fulfilling wikipedia experience. Indrian 00:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just move it back then and stop being so argumentative. Everyone else made constructive comments i moved it and put a comment on the talk page. User:Aleph4 and User:Ladydayelle both made reasonable points. Just move the page back and stop making threats. (forgot to sign this earlier) Tecmobowl 13:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I moved this back. I don't like how the redirect was immediately edited thereby obstructing the move - very fishy. Let's try to at least discuss this move first - it's clearly very controversial so should be brought to WP:RM. —Wknight94 (talk) 11:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was actually trying to move the page back per my last statement (which i forgot to sign). I just screwed up that's all. Why is everyone on here a conspiracy theorist. Page is back and i have done enough editing for one person on this, I hope people continue the cleanup and go get some good sources for the material. Tecmobowl 13:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Everyone gets jumpy when sockpuppet allegations get thrown around but everything seems settled down now. Let's all relax and get back to improving the article per Tecmobowl's suggestion. If anyone is serious about moving this article, bring it to WP:RM. That's where controversial moves are requested and clearly this move would be controversial!  :) —Wknight94 (talk) 13:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Primarysources tag[edit]

Re: the {{primarysources}} tag, is there any particular issue that needs to be addressed? When there are sources and references in an article, I usually prefer individual {{fact}} tags instead of the more general {{primarysources}} and {{unreferenced}} tags. Then people can focus on the actual problem areas instead of trying to reconcile the entire article. —Wknight94 (talk) 20:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have just removed the tag. If the person thinks that there are not enough sources and wants to use a fact tag, I agree that this would be unhelpful, but he would be within his rights. It appears however, that every source the article does cite to is a secondary source, so the tag is just plain wrong. Indrian 21:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think i just used the wrong tag, how about {{Not verified}} at the top? That aside, I used {{fact}} & {{verify source}} throughout the article. The two can easily be misinterpreted but both communicate the general idea that something is wrong with a particular statement. Thoughts, ideas, comments... :-)??? //Tecmobowl 23:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • I have no problem with that tag, and you are free to use it. Indrian 00:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More Photos[edit]

I believe we need more photos to enhance this article. Thoughts?Techmobowls 20:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article is fine, a better questions is who are you and why do you only edit articles I edit???? Tecmobowl 20:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The chase is on.[edit]

There are some numbers in this section which can't be correct. For example: ... the record for the most seasons with 30 or more home runs in the National League (12222222222). Aaron also knocked in the 2,000,000,000th run of his career ... I presume that they were correct previously and have been vandalised; perhaps someone could revert it back to the correct version. - 129.67.108.178 23:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)Victor[reply]

The 2 College Students[edit]

When he hit his record-breaking HR, who were the two "college students" that ran up to him on the field? I'd always figured that their identities were unknown, but if it's known that they were in college then their identities can't be that much of a mystery, right? If possible, it would be good to get this information on here as it is basically impossible to find elsewhere (at least as far as I can tell) 69.143.4.232 16:46, 8 April 2007 (UTC)nmc[reply]

Improvements[edit]

Nice to see that a lot of citations have been added to this article, well done to anyone who added them . Mglovesfun 14:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Number of home runs by Bonds[edit]

There appears to be a lack of objectivity when it comes to value statements regarding Aaron's place in the history of baseball. Hitters with lesser statistics have generalizations made about them quite safely such as the comment about Ted Williams, i.e., "He is widely considered to be one of the greatest hitters in the history of baseball." This statement is safe, because it is a widely held belief. Therefore, it is difficult to understand how this article omits this kind of value statement, given Aaron's superior statistics and the widely held belief among many fans that he is also "one of the greatest hitters in the history of baseball".--Aberforth (talk) 11:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Under the title "Home run record eclipsed by Barry Bonds", it says towards the end that "After Bonds hit his record-breaking 716th home run on August 7, 2007". This should be changed to 756th home run.

Henry Aaron did not play in the National league his entire MLB career. The Milwaukee Brewers were members of the Amer can League until 1997. Hank Aaron played on the Brewers from 1975-1976.

Uhh, I do believe you are mistaken about the 756th thing. Babe Ruth's record was of 714 home runs, and Aaron's was of 733 home runs. Why would Bonds break the record 23 runs after the record was actually broken? The 716th thing was written because the 715th of Aaron's was the record breaker, and appearently they believed that home run ended his career, which couldn't be farther from the truth. Echoes134 (talk) 23:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hard telling what you're really trying to say, but in any case, Ruth had 714 in his career, Aaron had 755, so Bonds moved into second place when he hit number 715, and into first place when he hit number 756. Aaron hit 733 in the National League, but that was a league record, not a career record. So Bonds broke Aaron's league record when he hit number 734, but needed 22 more to break Aaron's career record. Ruth, of course, still holds the American League record with 708 (he hit 6 in the National League). Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 00:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not trying to offend you, but I was simply trying to make the point that the record wouldn't be set indefinately after it was broken, and it wouldn't make sense if it were to do so. I don't know much about baseball, hockey's my thing, so I just said that so someone would correct the page, because I knew I couldn't. Echoes134 (talk) 18:48, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can't offend me since I still don't know what you're talking about. Bonds broke Aaron's career record when he hit number 756. Each one he hit after that, broke / extended his own record. Whatever his current number may be (and I don't know and really don't care what it is), is the current career record. Is that what you're trying to say? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Bonds[edit]

I am not a Barry Bonds fan; nor am I hoping he breaks the record. However, I think aits relevant to mention him somewhere in this article, especially the reasoning behind Hank's announcement that he will not attend the game in which Bonds breaks his record. What do others think? M. Frederick 17:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Trevor GH5 16:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that if/when Bonds breaks Hanks record, it should be referenced that Bonds was the one who did it. However, any reference to what Hank feels about Bonds' use of steriods is totally inappropriate! Hank, himself, stated, during a recent interview for Sun Sports by Chris Dimino, "Hank Aaron: In My Own Words",, that he made the statement of not attending anything to do with the breaking of his record, before the steroid issue emergered. He has always stated that "records were meant to be broken".Flborn 20:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hank Aaron's law degree[edit]

He was awarded an honourary law degree in 1995: [1] . Add it if you think it deserves a mention. --203.206.183.160 12:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


honorary= not noteworthy in terms of diplomas

Sites to use for resources[edit]

I have removed the following links from the EL section. The biography pages seem much more appropriate for sources and 3 stats sites seems excessive. Here the are in case someone wants to use them as sources:

Long levi 06:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion by Long levi of Fangraphs EL[edit]

Pls return the fangraphs EL. This has been the subject of an extensive discussion on the baseball wikiproject baseball page. The consensus was to include it as an EL. The one vociferous disagreeing editor has, btw, been banned indefinitely from Wikipedia. Tx.--Epeefleche 10:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've read all of that stuff. That's why i moved it here.  Long Levi  20:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm confused. That stuff, as you put it, supports Fangraphs being listed as an EL. You moved it. If you are to abide by the consensus on that page, you should put it back as an EL. Am I missing something?--Epeefleche 03:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, your not confused. That site does not offer anything that warrants its inclusion over the other sites.  Long Levi  05:19, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please don't drag me into your arguments. I am not here to pass judgement on who said what when. I'm just improving the quality of this article. Please be more mindful of the fact that others do not agree with any part of that discussion. Including the fact that you titled the section in what I view as a personal attack on someone. There are already two stats sites in this article. I do not see any benefit to that third link. If you want to put it in, you might consider replacing on of the ones already being used.  Long Levi  00:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not clear. Which point are you asking me not to bring up any more? That there is consensus over the Fangraphs EL, which I am suggesting be respected? Or that your behavior in refusing to respect the Fangraphs EL consensus mirrors rather dramatically that of Tecmobowl, the banned sockpuppet? Both points seem to me to be legitimate points to raise, in light of your actions (and Tecmo's actions). And I might point out that Tecmo had the same habit of asking that other editors not say things ... if he disagreed with them.--Epeefleche 07:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • FYI. Longlevi has just been found to be a sockpuppet of a banned user named Tecmobowl, who has used socks in the past. Accordingly, he has also been banned indefinitely. See [2]--Epeefleche 00:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Post-playing career[edit]

"Although some have speculated that this is a snubbing of Bonds based on the ongoing steroids scandal, some have looked back to Aaron's own history and how he downplayed his breaking of Babe Ruth's all-time record, and see Aaron's actions as simply treating Bonds the way he wanted to be treated."

Who is "some"? Why are they relevant? And who cares *why* Hank Aaron refuses to attend Barry Bond's celebratory dinner? As long as he himself does not reveal his motive, all we can do is speculate. Such speculation does not belong in WP. Qifan 14:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See Also & Stats[edit]

Per WP:EL, I don't think the stats section belongs at all. However, in trying to find a compromise, I have shortened the section to display his career statistics. Providing a full list of his career stats will inundate readers and takes up valuable space than could be used to relay content. There are two stats sites already included in the EL section, so a reader can easily access that information if need be.

Per WP:GTL#See_also, I have shortened the See Also section. According to the Guideline section, it appears that all of the information could in fact be removed and incorporated into the article. That being said, a number of categories and templates are already in place to relay the same information that is in the see also article. If one hits 700 home runs, then there is no real need to establish them as a 500 and 600 and 700 "club" member. Considering that the information is already in place with a variety of categories, it needed to be condensed. Rather than outright removal, I have left one link in there that does not appear in another place currently. As the article improves, it is likely that the section can be removed altogether.  Long Levi  21:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: The above user, Longlevi, has been indef banned as a sockpuppet of a banned user/sockpuppet.--Epeefleche 01:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

barry bonds breaks aaron's record[edit]

I would like to say congratulations to barry for breaking the all time homerun record set be hank aaron. some people might say barry cheated to get the record but guess what he never tested positive for steroids. when he hit 756 the guy who said he wanted nothing to do with the record hank aaron congratulated him which was very classy unlike bud selig who went to a couple of games and called his effort herculean which is dumb hank aarons message was herculean. bud selig was at milwaukee relaxing thats not herculean. Hank aaron did not follow barry bonds around which is fine because he is old he cant be traveling to san diego san fransisco or any other place.


There is a typo on the wikipedia page, stating that after Bonds hit his 716 homerun on August 7, 2007 that the Aaron video was shown. Obviously, the homerun is number 756 for B. Bonds.

All Star Game Appearances[edit]

I noticed that all three players (supposedly Hank Aaron, Stan Musial, and Willie Mays) with 24 all star appearances played less than 24 seasons in the league, and some sites list Hank's appearances as 21, which excludes his first and last seasons (adding up to his 23 seasons played). I'm not sure what should be put. If somebody knows why it is 24 for these guys, please explain. It's a little weird that there would be so many different and varying amounts across the internet. Thanks. 24.99.219.179 22:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • This confustion results from the fact that two all star games were played every year from 1959 to 1962. Aaron was selected to both teams all four of those years, but he only played in three of the four extra games, so 24 is the correct number. The sites that use 21 as the number are counting number of years he made an all star team as opposed to how many all star games he actually played in. Indrian 23:29, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hank Aaron, Brewers and the NL[edit]

Henry Aaron played the last two seasons of his career with the Milwaukee Brewers of the American League. Can someone please fix this error?71.125.170.74 04:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it. In the future, consider making the fixes yourself :) Kingturtle 05:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The word "vitriol" is misspelled in the article.72.83.90.69 (talk) 13:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for catching that. I fixed it. In the future, please feel free to fix it yourself :) Kingturtle (talk) 14:07, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Erdös number[edit]

Inserting a note about his Erdös number might be interesting. Being completely oblivious of the baseball world, I don't really know. portugal (talk) 12:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

considering that he rates an Erdös number only because they both autographed a baseball, it's more of a joke. The Wikipedia list of people with an Erdös number does not contain Aaron's name or a link to this page.--SEWalk (talk) 09:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RBI[edit]

It isn't mentioned in his achievments page that he is the all time RBI record holder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.78.63 (talk) 01:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, by far this is more important than his HR record, because it bespeaks of a more ocmplete player. Given stats, Aaron had a much more constsantly good season-to-season record than bonds did.

  • Actually, RBIs are just as worthless as Home Runs for determining the value of a player. Furthermore, both the header of the article and the infobox include this record, so I don't see what the problem is. Indrian (talk) 22:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing wording[edit]

As I recall, the 715 ball was caught on the fly by pitcher Tom House, so the phrase "it landed in the bullpen" is incorrect. It never landed! This is worth cleaning up, especially since it is unusual for a home run to be caught on the fly by another player. I saw the home run on TV, and it's what I remember best about it. ProfessorAndro (talk) 16:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK as is? Or you could says something along the lines of it was hit into the bullpen, where ... caught it.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:04, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

White students[edit]

It's relevant that they're white in that he had been besieged with death threats, and he later said that he wondered if someone had run onto the field to attack him before he could finish circling the bases. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 12:39, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:01, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Marq08, 24 April 2010[edit]

I would like to request that due to recent events, namely the opening of the Hank Aaron Childhood Home Museum on April 14, 2010, that an external link to its website Hank Aaron Museum be included in the article and perhaps a reference to its opening or media coverage be made in the awards and honors section or whatever section is deemed appropriate.

Marq08 (talk) 19:19, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: The link is to the stadium, not a museum, which is more notable. Spitfire19 (Talk) 20:01, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The name of the link is Hank Aaron stadium if you would prefer to link to museum.hankaaronstadium.com you may do so. The stadium is home to the new museum which was opened on April 14th, 2010. If you would like links to the local or national news coverage of the event to certify its notability I can provide those references. Marq08 (talk) 20:53, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 67.187.43.248, 30 May 2010[edit]

{{tld}editsemiprotected}} Aaron was a 21x all-star, not 25, as indicated.

67.187.43.248 (talk) 14:03, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Welcome and thanks, Celestra (talk) 14:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 67.219.89.190, 13 June 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} Hank Aaron has 805 homeruns.


http://www.theonion.com/articles/mlb-credits-hank-aaron-with-50-lost-home-runs,2194/ 67.219.89.190 (talk) 05:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Sorry, The Onion is a news satire organization. It features satirical articles reporting on international, national, and local news. The Onion's articles comment on current events, both real and imagined. It parodies traditional newspaper features, such as editorials, man-on-the-street interviews, and stock quotes, as well as traditional newspaper layout and AP-style editorial voice. Avicennasis @ 06:39, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New section[edit]

There seems to be miscalculations/misinformation in stating that Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth's Home Run Record. 1. Babe Ruth hit 714 Home Runs in 22 years, in 2,503 games while being at bat 8,399 times. 2. Hank Aaron hit 755 Home Runs in 23 years (one more year), in 3,298 games (795 more games) while being at bat 12,364 times (3,965 more times). 3. If you take the total number of Babe Ruth's games of 2,503 (his total career) and apply the same number of games to Hank Aaron then he would only have approximately 

  592 Home Runs in 2,576 games which is still 73 more games than Babe Ruth.

To be consistent you must compare apples to apples; # of games played to # of games played and to # of 'At Bats' to # of 'At Bats'. Just as if someone hit 100 Home Runs in one 20 games in a single season while being at bat 35 times then someone else hits 101 home runs in 25 games in a single season while being at bat 65 times; does that break the 100 HR that was set prior? Now I know that some people will think that this is a racist statement by defaming Hank Aaron,I'm not, but what if Babe Ruth was Black and Hank Aaron was White, would then the same standard be followed? LeeLeeB46 (talk) 16:34, 18 October 2011 (UTC)From Breaking Babe Ruth's Record Wikipedia Encyclopedia[reply]

We aren't talking about home runs per game. We are talking about total number of home runs, period. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:31, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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