Talk:HMS Ulysses (novel)

	Novels portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.NovelsWikipedia:WikiProject NovelsTemplate:WikiProject Novelsnovel articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Military fiction task force, which deals with Military novel (prose) articles.

Ending[edit]

Didn't they FAIL to hit the U-Boat? Their glorious charge ended due to misfortune?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.225.240.87 (talk) 09:48, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The charge at the end was to ram a German 'Hipper Class' cruiser (not a U-Boat), whom they'd encountered earlier. Their sinking before reaching it was caused by an explosion that may have been a torpedo, fired from an unseen U-Boat.—Preceding unsigned comment added by TimS00 (talk • contribs) 12:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edits needed[edit]

There seems to be a little too much opinion in the article. The sentence "The ship was extremely well armed and one of the fastest ships in the world" is this talking about the dido's or the fictional book. Either way neither could be classed as extremely well armed or anything like the fastest ship in the world.

Also the word predictably appears a number of times in the write up, isn’t this opinion? I will make changes in the next few days Sams37 (talk) 22:42, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aggressive editing[edit]

A sentence was removed for lack of citation [1]. There is a cite tag that is better used for such things {{cite}} indeed there is a reason why it exists. Considering it took less than a minute to use Google to locate http://www.hmsglowworm.org.uk/ where one can read

On 8th April 1940 The British destroyer HMS Glowworm, alone and outgunned took on the German Heavy Cruiser Admiral Von Hipper and her destroyer escorts. In spite of the heavy odds against her she managed to score hits on her mighty opponent and in a last act of defiance she rammed the Cruiser before she sank.

For maximum effect there is even, and get this, a Wikipedia article called HMS Glowworm (H92) that describes this in detail. --13:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.178.85 (talk)

Citation 2 Removed[edit]

Linked to a spam website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.115.215.44 (talk) 03:30, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PQ 17?[edit]

The article claims that the “ill-fated PQ 17...provided the basis for the novel”, a claim repeated in the plot section. I don't know where the idea came from, but it shows a scant knowledge of the history of the Arctic convoys.
In the novel Maclean managed to include every mishap that ever beset the Navy on the Murmansk run: Bitter cold, ice (PQ 14), a massive storm (PQ 13), attacks by a U-boat pack (JW 58 and others) by aircraft (PQ 18 and others) and a German cruiser (JW 51B and JW 55B), and a sortie by the Tirpitz (PQ 12). Plus several that never did; attacks with glider bombs (the action off Vigo) from Stukas (the Kanalkampf) and Condors (the Fliegerfuhrer Atlantik), and a mutiny (well, more of a strike, really; the Nore mutiny). What the fictitious FR 77 didn't suffer from was a disastrous order to scatter, resulting in the loss of many of its ships (the defining tragedy of PQ!7) Maclean mentioned PQ 17 a couple of times, and added a lengthy footnote, but if he intended to base the book on that incident he had a funny way of showing it.
So I've taken it out. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:15, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified (January 2018)[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians, I have just modified one external link on HMS Ulysses (novel). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070312202537/http://www.harpercollins.co.uk/books/default.aspx?id=29386 to http://www.harpercollins.co.uk/books/default.aspx?id=29386

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs. This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 12:47, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]