Talk:Gazette-Mail Kanawha County Majorette and Band Festival

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Notability[edit]

Marching bands and baton-twirling are not high culture, but at least in Kanawha County, they appear to be notable, and they have coverage in reliable sources. I therefore removed the speedy tag, since there is at least an assertion of notability. --Eastmain (talk) 02:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Editing the Festivals page[edit]

If your going to edit something on the page, please put an edit summary so I know what you have edited. Or at least put a question of what your going to edit on either this discussion page or on my talk page. I don't mind people editing the page as long as what your putting is true and you have a reliable source to verify that its true and please don't put some kind of nonsense on here to be cute or funny, cause your not. Thank You. JDC808 (talk) 14:57, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a misprint in the 2005 program for the festival, it says that Riverside High School won the Festival Grand Championship in 2004, this is not true for Capital High School won the festival that year, the programs for the years 2006 to present are correct. Also this page is very hard to find sources for. Some places I've tried to find sources for, you have to be a subscriber to that website. If I somehow do come across any sources I will add them to the page. JDC808 (talk) 14:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to make note that all the information on this page comes from the program given out at the event. I tried searching online to see if maybe there was a copy of a program online to use a source for the page but there wasn't, but this is just to let everyone know that all information on the page is true and accurate. There may be a couple of spots that might be a little off, mainly in the sub-section "Former categories" in the main section "Layout", but everything else is right, rewording might need be done though. JDC808 (talk) 18:10, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

High Schools location and deceased schools dates[edit]

It makes is easier for the readers to see where these high schools are from without having to go to that particular high schools page. It lets them know which part of Kanawha County the schools are coming from. For the dates of the deceased schools, this lets the readers know when these schools became no longer apart of the festival. JDC808 (talk) 15:14, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is of such local interest, if it is of interest at all, that one could hardly call it worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. The same goes for the long, long list of majorettes and grand champions--even if all that information were verified, how would it be notable? If this were some kind of national competition, or even a statewide competition, this is possibly notable, but I fail to see the importance and relevance of this information. Drmies (talk) 19:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you don't consider it worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia, but there are others, like myself, that do. "How would it be notable?" Why is it not notable? Just because it's a festival within the state, more specifically the main county of the state? I mean, maybe you don't see the significance of this article, but there are those that do. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not notable. JDC808 (talk) 21:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's specious. Look at WP:ATHLETE, where athletes are considered notable if they have competed at the highest level of their sport, not below. Surely that rationale makes sense also when applied to a majorette festival in a county in West Virginia. Yes, it is not notable because it happens at a very local level. Drmies (talk) 23:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You know, you are the only person having a problem with this. The article is here giving us information just like all the other Wikipedia pages. Does it really matter to you that it isn't notable as you say? There was a run in with the notability before when the page was first made, but as you can see in the first section on this talk page titled "Notability", the guy says there is some notability for this page. This festival just doesn't bring in people from the county, it brings in people from around the state as well. It attracts around 3,000 each year. It's the longest running music festival in the state. A nationally recognized college band who won the Sudler Trophy in 1997 performs there every other year. JDC808 (talk) 01:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't know that, and your misreading of Eastmain's comments is pretty bad: they said notability was asserted, not proven--and an assertion of notability is enough to remove a speedy deletion tag. 3,000 visitors? Sorry, but that's hardly impressive. And besides, I'm not arguing that the article should be deleted--I'm arguing that the ridiculous list of non-notable winners of non-notable trophies should be deleted. Maybe I am the only who has voiced some criticism of some of the contents of this article, but by the same token you are the only one who is contributing to it. I would appreciate it if you would attempt to read Eastmain's as well as my own remarks correctly: no one here is arguing for deletion (so leave your straw man at home--your argument is deceitful); Eastmain was not saying "the article in all of its glorious contents is notable" (and even if they did, that doesn't make it so--Wikipedia is a community); and all I'm saying is that this article is bloated with unverified and trivial information. And stop talking about other editors' comments as opinions: this is not a matter of taste but of policy. Pff. Next thing you know, you're saying that I hate majorettes or the state of West Virginia. Drmies (talk) 15:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm sorry that there isn't a program for the festival located online. The list for all of the majorettes and all of the grand champions comes from the program that is sold at the festival each year, so yes the list of the majorettes and champions is true. If I was able to locate this program online, I would, but have had no luck. If I was able to upload a scanned photo copy of the program online, I would, but I don't have the equipment to do so. And sorry about taking your comments as opinions, they just seem very opinionated. JDC808 (talk) 15:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I find the "long, long list" of previous majorettes and champion winners very helpful. Sandy J Aug 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.81.140.5 (talk) 06:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Gazette-Mail Kanawha County Majorette and Band Festival/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Check out WP:MOS and WP:REF for more on how to properly format and cite an article. A little work on the references could get this up to Start-class in no time. youngamerican (wtf?) 00:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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