Talk:Garden Party (Marillion song)

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Most Sucessful Single?[edit]

I seriously doubt that this song was more successful than 'Kayleigh'. Unless someone can back that up, I'm removing that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Retrorocker (talk • contribs) 15:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Miming/frolicking etc[edit]

Regarding the lyric, I bought a cassette of Jester's Tear in England in 1983 and it sounds like "frolicking" to me, although it is garbled and could be a deliberate ambiguity on Fish's part. Thatcher131 04:36, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right Thatcher - now that I remember, the lyric on the album version was different again from the other two versions (and the 'live' perfomances). I'll ammend the article to reflect that in a while. --Mal 14:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Now I'm confused. If it was frolicking on the album and miming on the single, when was it ever fucking? I may have mis-heard my cassette version, thinking frolicking since it was a better rhyme for rocking (if I knew all along it was rucking, I might have heard it differently.) Interestingly, the lyrics printed in the remastered CD omit this section entirely so they're no help. Can you clarify when if ever it was fucking or frolicking? Thatcher131 18:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have the original CD version of the album from 1983 and it clearly sounds like "fucking" to me. I can't hear "frolicking" even if I try. But then again I'm not a native English speaker. Jajws 23:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with Jajws. He draws out the u sound (sort of "Fu-huh-king") but no way does it say "frolicking". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.108.214.3 (talk) 08:12, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On the 12" single I believe it was "fucking". On the Album it was "frolicking". On the 7" version it was "miming". In live performances he usually gets the crowd to sing.. I'm sure you can guess what they sing! This is the case as far as I remember. Unfortunately, I have all my music basically as MP3s in collections on my hard drive. I'm sure I have the vinyl 12" (which included the 7" version) and the LP somewhere.. but I don't have a record player at the minute. --Mal 19:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
""Social climbers polish ladders, wayward sons again have fathers." is fairly obvious." Not to me, I'm afraid! :) --kingboyk 08:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I attended at least one live Marillion concert where they played this song and the "fucking" was VERY clear. Both Fish and the audience shouted the word "fucking". On a different note, it is funny to notice that "I'm punting" was not considered offensive enough to be changed. In British English, "punters" can be people ("Johns") using the services of prostitutes... 97.103.81.29 (talk) 23:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever it is, thanks to whomever put the controversy section here to let me know what the words are that every concertgoer seems to know in all the Marillion bootlegs and Real To Reel, etc..75.79.161.32 (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Singles guidelines[edit]

Thatcher and myself have had some discussion about the songs of Marillion and the singles notability guidelines. I'm not redirecting this one though, as it might just fall into the acceptable category considering its controversy and length. The article is duplicated in a new article I have started though: Marillion singles (1982 - 1988). If you have any objections or comments, feel free to add them here. --Mal 19:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC) delinked as it's currently in Mal's user space pending work and a decision on what to call it. --kingboyk 00:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be surprised if you have problems with any of them. Be bold, and should they ever be deleted I can userfy them for you. --kingboyk 08:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Timing?[edit]

I'm usually good with time signatures, but this song has me stumped. Is it really just 4/4? Because it almost sounds like 17/16 to me. If the timing really is so odd, it might be worth noting in the article. 72.136.191.254 20:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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