Talk:GM Buffalo bus

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The V-drive is not "unique" to GMC buses -- many competing models such as Flxible used the same power pack (Detroit Diesel + V-drive) because properties owning GMCs already did not want to invest in additional parts, tools, training, etc. Mack buses used a V-drive with the engine on the right and transmission on the left.

The page says later buffalos used a "synchronized" transmission. Is there a citation? The claim is almost certainly a mistake especially given the description of shifting. The manual transmission in essentially all V-drive GMCs was a non-synchromesh Spicer (two models with varying gear sets). The 4107/08 and 4903/05 were fitted with a wet clutch which had improved service life over the earlier dry clutch but more drag when disengaged. This made cold shifts problematic (sometimes requiring the driver to turn the motor off if the bus was stopped) and even warm shifts need more skill than with a dry clutch.

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I believe the V-drive was a GM development that was later either given or licensed to Flxible. This is something I have heard; I have no written evidence to back it up. AFAIK, no Buffalos had synchronized transmissions. Autonerd (talk) 08:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC) Autonerd[reply]

I took the opportunity to correct the mistake of a synchro transmission and added the major difference of 24 volt electrical systems in the 4903 and later models. I also noted that Greyhound's last GM was a 1967 4107. It could be noted that the spicer transmission did have a 'clutch brake' but it was only effective on some specimens so some shifted better than others. lieblerj@windstream.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.19.246.8 (talk) 03:37, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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