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Science behind Freddie Mercury's voice

I had recently made a contribution concerning the science behind the appeal behind Mercury's voice. It was, in my view, summarily reverted (and yes, it had sources, and they were very reliable...here is the text that was deleted, and I would like some feedback.

A recent scientific paper detailed the science behind the appeal of Mercury's voice, particularly his vibrato and use of subharmonics.[1][2] Swilliamrex (talk) 01:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

I should also note the person who reverted the article has a habit of both summary reversions and getting into edit wars. I prefer to have this resolved without any drama. Thanx. Swilliamrex (talk) 02:06, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

I believe the user User:RyanTQuinn is summarily reverting pages. I made an addition, more detailed than the last, and as far as I am aware, well within the scope of Wikipedia guidelines, and with verifiable sources, and this user has reverted the page without reason or discussion. This is the text I added: A research team in Europe recently undertook a study to understand the appeal behind Mercury's voice.[3] Led by Professor Christian Herbst, the team noted Mercury's notably faster vibrato and use of subharmonics, particularly in comparison to opera singers. The research team studied vocal samples from 23 commercially available Queen recordings, his solo work, and a series of interviews of the late artist. They also used an endoscopic video camera to study a rock singer brought in to imitate Mercury’s singing voice.[4]

I would like this resolved, and soon. I feel the material is relevant to the article, and meets the standards, and if not, I would like to know why. Thank you. I would also wish to file a complaint on the user in question, as he has been guilty of this before. Swilliamrex (talk) 20:16, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://bigthink.com/brandon-weber/the-science-behind-why-freddie-mercurys-voice-was-so-damned-compelling
  2. ^ http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/14015439.2016.1156737
  3. ^ http://www.npr.org/2016/04/25/475611808/why-freddie-mercurys-voice-was-so-great-as-explained-by-science
  4. ^ http://news.discovery.com/human/life/freddie-mercurys-incredible-singing-voice-explained-160419.htm

Marital status

I have noticed that in the articles for John Deacon, Brian May and Roger Taylor, there is information on their respective marriages as well as the children that they had. How come there are no details on marriage or fatherhood for Freddie Mercury? CapeDragon (talk) 20:26, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

He was unmarried and not a father. DuncanHill (talk) 20:53, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Infobox musical artist vs. person

Mercury is a musical artist, if "infobox person" allows more parameters then embed it towards the bottom, but musical artist should be first. Mlpearc Phone (open channel) 15:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Asteroid named

The International Astronomical Union has named Asteroid 17473 Freddiemercury.[1] 167.123.240.35 (talk) 23:45, 4 September 2016 (UTC) 

Would someone please add this? http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37275294  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2vo6VR51eA Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.27.254 (talk) 17:12, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
Could someone put a paragraph break before the sentence about the asteroid? It's a bit lost at the moment. Also, I wonder if it's worth mentioning that it was previously designated 1991 FM3. Kudos to Brian May, btw, for getting them to give the name to one that already had the initials FM. 2.99.207.130 (talk) 20:38, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
Also, I think the wikilink should be to just 17473 Freddiemercury per Wikipedia naming conventions for minor planet articles (they should never have "Asteroid" or whatever in them. As I understand it). 2.99.207.130 (talk) 20:58, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Claims of Freddie Mercury's 4-Octave Range

As of yet, the claims that Freddie Mercury had a 4-Octave Voice Range have not yet been proven.; http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/music/news/claims-of-fouroctave-singing-range-for-queens-freddie-mercury-bite-the-dust-34638262.html

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/04/19/scientists-explain-freddie-mercurys-incredible-singing-voice.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Byronclynch (talk • contribs) 03:05, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

John Deacon

I feel his band mate John Deacon should be mentioned somewhere, as he had a close relationship with Freddie and retired pretty much solely because of Freddie's death. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfpack40351 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Freddie Mercury's nationality

His roots are Indian. Nationality should be written as British Indian. Nozerdinshaw (talk) 14:27, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Notability as British. His ancestry he was notoriously coy about. His Asteroid citation (read by Brian May) states Freddie Mercury British songwriter. As a self confessed Freddie Mercury superfan I've probably read more about Freddie than any other human being. Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 16:14, 16 September 2016 UTC)
I'm a Freddie superfan too and I can tell you his birth nationality was British Indian as can be seen from his birth certificate. He was from the Parsi-Zarathustri community of India, of which I'm also a part, which includes such famous people as Zubin Mehta (world renowned conductor), the Tatas (Indian equivalent of the Rockefellers), and a bunch of other notables. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.87.73.241 (talk) 05:19, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
British Indian would be his ethnicity, not his nationality. We do not put the ethnicity in the WP:LEDE. Please look through the archives as there have been numerous discussions about this before. Karst (talk) 06:58, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

See Notes. ILikeCycling (talk) 15:54, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Freddie Mercury attended St. Mary's School in Bombay from where he eventually graduated after his stint at St. Peter's. This ought to find mention in the article in the 'Early Life' section.

You may see the following links for reference: http://www.mid-day.com/articles/the-incubator-of-excellence/15091077 http://www.linnrecords.com/artist-freddie-mercury.aspx http://www.last.fm/music/Freddie+Mercury/+wiki?setlang=en https://freddiemercury4ever.wordpress.com/biography/

The link to the St. Mary's wiki page is (for the purpose of cross-reference): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary's_School,_Mumbai

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  15:55, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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Barbara Valentin

During the early- to mid-1980s, he was romantically involved with Barbara Valentin, an Austrian actress, who is featured in the video for "It's a Hard Life".

During the early- to mid-1980s, he was good friends with Barbara Valentin, an Austrian actress, who is featured in the video for "It's a Hard Life". He was in a relationship with Winfried Kirchberger, a restaurateur from Munich.

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/musikgeschichten-die-liebe-vom-sebastianseck-1.872519 http://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/menschen/freddie-mercury-die-koenigin-von-bayern-1359707-p2.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitney Schnuck (talk • contribs) 20:17, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2017

Mercury was born of (Change Parsi descent to Indian Parsi descent) in the Sultanate of Zanzibar and grew up there and in India until his mid-teens, before moving with his family to Middlesex, England — ultimately forming the band Queen in 1970 with Brian May and Roger Taylor. Mercury died in 1991 at age 45 due to complications from AIDS, having confirmed the day before his death that he had contracted the disease. Edeeeth (talk) 01:59, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP (talk • contribs) 02:29, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

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Kenny Everett

Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page? There was even a TV programme about it; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/information/a7520/when-freddie-mercury-met-kenny-everett.html#~oABrKHu1h26LBo Yet nothing on here Why? --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

LGBT is written as GLBT. I was not able to correct it, so I'd like to ask the admin to do so. Appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omniavincitamor (talk • contribs) 13:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC) Does anyone have any proper ref about the Friendship with Kenny Everett, before I start looking up books etc.--Crazyseiko (talk) 12:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I need other people to explain: WHY cant we use the ref from the TV show? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Film, TV, or video recordings[edit] Citations for films, TV episodes, or video recordings typically include: name of the director name of the producer, if relevant title of the film or TV series in italics: - When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett name of the studio : - Blackwatch Productions year of release  : - Sunday, 2nd June 2002 medium (for example: film, videocassette, DVD) = TV approximate time at which event or point of interest occurs, where appropri

Im having real trouble getting this in book form, It might explain why the TV Doc was made in the first place.... Freddie Auto bio is rather poor about the subject and seems to whitewash alot!

Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett became close friends over the years they knew each other. First meeting in 1974,http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f Kenny had invited Freddie on to his breakfast show on Capital FM; the pair hit it off instantly. During the 1970s, their friendship became closer, with Everett becoming advisor and mentor to Mercury - and Mercury as Everett's confidante, helping Kenny to accept his sexuality. Throughout the early-mid 80s, the pair continued to explore their homosexuality - in addition to drugs - and while the pair were never lovers, they did experience London night life on a regular basis together. During this time Kenny and Freddie became involved with Nicolai Grishanovitch and a Spanish waiter named Pepe Flores. By 1985, the pair had also fallen out over a disagreement on their using and sharing of drugs. During 1988, Audrey Lee "Lady Lee" Middleton completed her autobiography, with the foreword from Kenny. Unusually, shortly after its publication and newspaper serialisation, Kenny denounced the book for outing him. The fallout resulted in the pair only speaking via lawyer, with their friends - including Freddie - choosing to support Lee. source]] Kenny and Freddie started talking again in 1989, with their failing health. Their closeness was not on the same level as years previous, but they were able to reconcile their differences. [1]

What are we going to do about this, IT will have to get put back in,. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
The entire section needs to be referenced, point by point. Go to google books, search for Everett and Freddie Mercury. You dont need to use several sources, just the one published source and then refer to a specific page in the book that verifies each point. I'd also mention Everett being a huge factor in the band getting significant airplay as it was he who played Boh Rhapsody constantly.--Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Here the issues, FM auto has little about Kenny it, and also pretty much whitewashes his involvement with the song. Said book is pretty poor. Goolge books also has not been helpful! I was also hoping someone else would help but that seems alas a no.

References

  1. ^ When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett Ch4 Documentary - Channel 4

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2017

Freddie Mercury was an Asian-British singer, songwriter and record producer. Freddiemercuryisasian (talk) 04:33, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - Mlpearc (open channel) 04:35, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

was a British singer, songwriter and record producer was an Asian-British singer, songwriter and record producer

please change British to Asian-British

source: http://ethnicelebs.com/freddie-mercury Freddiemercuryisasian (talk) 04:37, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Ethnicelebs.com is not reliable. See User_talk:XLinkBot/RevertList#EthniCelebs.com --Ronz (talk) 22:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

West London to Liverpool

One minute Freddie is selling clothes at Kensington Market and working at Heathrow, the next he's joined Ibex / Wreckage and is living in Liverpool. It isn't at all clear from the article how that happened! JezGrove (talk) 22:18, 22 June 2017 (UTC) JezGrove (talk) 22:18, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2017

Add new information: Freddie Mercury's image to appear on Norwegian aircraft" Image of late Queen vocalist Freddie Mercury will appear on the tail fin of 2 Norwegian aircraft to mark what would have been his 71st birthday" Mjr524 (talk) 08:37, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:29, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

His first name

A while back, I noticed that the article has no indication that Farrokh Mercury ever had his first name legally chaged to Freddie; specifically, the article simply says "It was also at St. Peter's where he began to call himself 'Freddie'". Although my edit has not seen any opposition as of yet, I wondered why this went unnoticed for the past 12 years or so. Does somebody have extended information on whether he actually did change his first name? Lordtobi (✉) 11:04, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia Photo Standards

why is wikipedia the source for extremely poor or poorly chosen biographical photos? here we have a photo of freddie mercury with a microphone in front of his face. if we turn to the bio of shirlie holliman we find a photo of her with a microphone in front of her face. it is exasperating and inexplicable to run time and time again across poorly lit film or music festival photos, group photos from ComiCon, long shot stage photos from SFSX, fan photos taken with a smartphone. is this editorial policy? it must be, because it occurs so often. so why is it wikipedia editorial policy to use photos that make the subject of a biography unrecognizable, badly presented, or inappropriately posed? where is this policy laid down? how can i work to get it changed? Drollere (talk) 01:27, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

I believe the policy you're referring to is WP:NFCC. Good luck. Sro23 (talk) 01:30, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

"British" singer?

He was born at the Sultanate of Zanzibar (1856–1964) in the actual Tanzania. Isn't wrong say that he is "british" instead of say that he is tanzanian? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.130.76.152 (talk) 20:07, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

It doesn't matter where he was born, it only matters what nationality he identified as when he was an adult. DonQuixote (talk) 21:01, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Zanzibar was under British rule in 1946 so he was a British national.[2] ... discospinster talk 00:48, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2017

2601:204:D480:144F:74D0:6968:2396:6C92 (talk) 04:42, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Freddie could not be a Virgo as he was born n November 24, which makes him a Sagittarius Sagittarius November 22 - December 21 Virgo August 23 - September 22 Check for yourself http://www.astrology-zodiac-signs.com/ Elizabeth eaphillips0072@comcast.net

Not done: Mercury was born on 5 September 1946. nihlus kryik (talk) 05:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Zoroastrianism and cremation

Freddy Mercury was an alleged Zoroastrian. On the other hand he was cremated, which is forbidden in Zoroastrianism (i. e. see Tower of Silence). This contradiction needs to be explained in the article--Prandr (talk) 15:23, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Kenny Everett

STILL three years later and we still cant get this sorted, WHY? --Crazyseiko (talk) 16:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page? There was even a TV programme about it; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/information/a7520/when-freddie-mercury-met-kenny-everett.html#~oABrKHu1h26LBo Yet nothing on here Why?

LGBT is written as GLBT. I was not able to correct it, so I'd like to ask the admin to do so. Appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omniavincitamor (talk • contribs) 13:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC) Does anyone have any proper ref about the Friendship with Kenny Everett, before I start looking up books etc.--Crazyseiko (talk) 12:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I need other people to explain: WHY cant we use the ref from the TV show? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Film, TV, or video recordings[edit] Citations for films, TV episodes, or video recordings typically include: name of the director name of the producer, if relevant title of the film or TV series in italics: - When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett name of the studio : - Blackwatch Productions year of release  : - Sunday, 2nd June 2002 medium (for example: film, videocassette, DVD) = TV approximate time at which event or point of interest occurs, where appropri

Im having real trouble getting this in book form, It might explain why the TV Doc was made in the first place.... Freddie Auto bio is rather poor about the subject and seems to whitewash alot!

Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett became close friends over the years they knew each other. First meeting in 1974,http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f Kenny had invited Freddie on to his breakfast show on Capital FM; the pair hit it off instantly. During the 1970s, their friendship became closer, with Everett becoming advisor and mentor to Mercury - and Mercury as Everett's confidante, helping Kenny to accept his sexuality. Throughout the early-mid 80s, the pair continued to explore their homosexuality - in addition to drugs - and while the pair were never lovers, they did experience London night life on a regular basis together. During this time Kenny and Freddie became involved with Nicolai Grishanovitch and a Spanish waiter named Pepe Flores. By 1985, the pair had also fallen out over a disagreement on their using and sharing of drugs. During 1988, Audrey Lee "Lady Lee" Middleton completed her autobiography, with the foreword from Kenny. Unusually, shortly after its publication and newspaper serialisation, Kenny denounced the book for outing him. The fallout resulted in the pair only speaking via lawyer, with their friends - including Freddie - choosing to support Lee. source]] Kenny and Freddie started talking again in 1989, with their failing health. Their closeness was not on the same level as years previous, but they were able to reconcile their differences. [1]

What are we going to do about this, IT will have to get put back in,. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
The entire section needs to be referenced, point by point. Go to google books, search for Everett and Freddie Mercury. You dont need to use several sources, just the one published source and then refer to a specific page in the book that verifies each point. I'd also mention Everett being a huge factor in the band getting significant airplay as it was he who played Boh Rhapsody constantly.--Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
Here the issues, FM auto has little about Kenny it, and also pretty much whitewashes his involvement with the song. Said book is pretty poor. Goolge books also has not been helpful! I was also hoping someone else would help but that seems alas a no.

References

  1. ^ When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett Ch4 Documentary - Channel 4

Bisexual

I've read in several places that he identified as bisexual, including some bio's.

Got a link too

http://www.queenarchives.com/index.php?title=Freddie_Mercury_-_11-25-1991_-_The_Star_-_AIDS_Kills_The_King_of_Rock

Yes, that is the truth. And I've a reference, too:-- http://queereka.com/2015/09/21/fyi-freddie-mercury-was-bi-why-bisexual-awareness-week-matters/ Nuttyskin (talk) 23:39, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
One's a tabloid and another is a blog post so no. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 08:00, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

'record producer'

Should we have 'record producer' in the lead sentence? The only thing about record producing is a phrase in the lead stating he "occasionally served as a producer and guest musician for other artists." If anything, I would imagine being an instrumentalist would rate higher on the scale of notability. LK (talk) 12:22, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2017

All lines Mary Austin changed to Mary Austin (Celebrity) Daniel Bruvik (talk) 17:12, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: No article exists on Austin at that title. Even if it did, only the first mention of her would be linked. —C.Fred (talk) 17:20, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Freddy sorry you died 😢

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New entry under Other Portrayals

Recently, on Netflix's animated series Big Mouth, singer Brendan McKian imitated Mercury's voice for the original song "I'm Gay" (third episode, "Am I Gay?"). Please add to the Other Portrayals section. 72.197.9.171 (talk) 19:09, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Request to add photo

Please consider including this just-posted photo, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Decaying_Photo_of_Freddie_Mercury_outside_Mercury_House_-_Stone_Town_-_Zanzibar_-_Tanzania_(8830680686).jpg, perhaps immediately below the existing photo of Mercury House. - Adam Jones Adam63 (talk) 01:11, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

@Adam63:  Not done Apologies. The idea with images is that they should go towards something definitive. In the case of people, we want clear, high-quality pictures so we know what they look like. I can tell this is Freddie Mercury because I know what he looked like; would this give a reader who's never seen him as much information about his appearance as a clear photo? CityOfSilver 19:43, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2018

Freddie Mercury worked at a second hand clothing stall in the kensington market with bandmate Roger Taylor from 1968. Although Roger Taylor stopped working at the stall in about 1970 Freddie continued on his own until about 1973. Tbruce19 (talk) 18:31, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
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Help request

sockpuppet

Please can someone change British to English singer in the introduction to be more specific. He is of English descent born in Zanzibar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlobalPower (talk • contribs) 21:22, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Traditionally we refer to such people as British. Primefac (talk) 21:53, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Also, "His parents, Bomi (1908–2003) and Jer Bulsara (1922–2016), were Parsis from the Gujarat region of the then-province of Bombay Presidency in British India." On his birth certificate they identified as "Nationality: British Indian". How does that make them, or Freddie Mercury, English? Huon (talk) 21:56, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Freddie, not Frederick, and other name issues

Thanks everybody for all your contributions! There has been some back and forth on the name question, but please, do not change the lede to "Frederick Mercury". It should be Freddie Mercury and here's why:

  • He is universally known as Freddie. I found one source that said the name in his passport was "Frederick Mercury" and one source that said the name on his death certificate was also. These are insufficient to make the claim that "Frederick Mercury" was his legal name. The first source makes the point that he only ever called himself "Freddie", and death certificates often contain erroneous information about the deceased. His entry in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biographies only calls him Freddie. His NYT obituary makes no mention of "Frederick Mercury", and neither does his obituary in the Guardian. MOS:BIRTHNAME, MOS:MULTIPLENAMES, and MOS:NICKNAME, all presume his legal name is known, and here, we don't have a reliable source on that. In the absence thereof, we should go with Freddie. Even if they do apply, they only say that the full legal name should "usually" be used, not that it must always be used.
  • None of the sources cited in the article call him Frederick Mercury. The content of the lede (like all the other content should reflect the content of the sources. If the sources all refer to him as Freddie, so should the article.

As for the infobox, "Other names", it does appear that he called himself Freddie Bulsara in a professional capacity, so I think that belongs. In his NYT obituary and in the Guardian, his birth name is given as "Frederick Bulsara", however, in the foreword to his biography, Freddie's own father calls him "Farrokh Bulsara", so I'm thinking the NYT and Guardian were in error.

If someone wants to put together some reliably-sourced content about names other than Freddie Mercury, go for it! Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 07:51, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Freddie himself used the name Frederick in his message to the Queen Fan Club's 1991 convention, as shown in [3]. Although death certificates can be erroneous, it is unlikely to be a common occurrence. His death certificate can be found with a simple image search (I can't link it because the link is on Wikipedia's blacklist). I have a strong belief that he legally changed his name from Farrokh Bulsara to Frederick Mercury. With these two factors in mind, I will revert the edit back. If anyone disagrees, reply here and I'll try to respond when I get a chance.
--Braveb1rd PokeMC (talk) 12:02, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Please DO NOT revert back to Frederick without a clear consensus here. I think InformationInjustice puts it pretty clearly. That Freddie may once have used the form "Frederick" in a light-hearted message to fans is nothing like enough to over-ride the numerous reliable sources giving his name as Freddie. A "strong personal belief" that he legally changes his name is utterly irrelevant to Wikipedia content. DuncanHill (talk) 12:08, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
To be fair he also calls himself kim basinger in "Queen Talks". The Official website Bio calls him Fredrick [4], I do think this, the death certificate and the Fan Club recording are at least enough for the other names box to contain Fredrick. Emrabt (talk) 09:15, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
His name appears as "Farrokh" (Bulsara) on what is said to be a copy of his birth certificate([5]) and as "Frederick Mercury otherwise Frederick Bulsara" on his death certificate([6]). On what is allegedly a copy of his last will he refers to himself as "I Freddie Mercury of 1 Logan Place London"([7]) and in another document from the High Court of Justice of May 1992 he is referred to as "Frederick Mercury otherwise Freddie Mercury" (same source). Iblardi (talk) 19:50, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Why is there no mention of the fact that some believe he was bisexual not strictly gay?

While he never confirmed what his true sexual orientation was when he was alive, I have heard both claims asserting that he was strictly gay or that he was bisexual but only the claim that he was gay is mentioned and addressed in the section of his sexual orientation while the possibility of him being bisexual,, as some have claimed, is absent. Surely their must be some reliable sources that mentioned the longstanding claim by some that he was actually bisexual not strictly gay. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 03:39, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

@Notcharliechaplin: Thanks so much for contributing! If you have a reliable source claiming he was bi, I would create a new section here with your proposed content and ask for feedback. Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 05:35, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
A lot of the people who knew him, including Mary Austin say he was gay, During his life he was never public with his sexual orientation (I think "I'm as gay as a daffodil" is the nearest we ever get directly from him), but we can assume based on what his friends say, that he felt he was Homosexual. Some people, for example George Michael felt he was bisexual due to his long relationship with Mary, but She herself has said he was gay. Brian May has said he didn't know if freddie was gay, as Freddie used to sidestep the issue. I think Freddie experimented a lot before he finally settled with Jim Hutton. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emrabt (talk • contribs) 10:50, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Emabt! Awesome! Can you create a new section on this talk page with your proposed changes, including citations to sources supporting any new content? Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 18:07, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Obviously, we can never truly know exactly what he thought his sexual orientation was (Gay, straight, or bisexual). But even if he was in a strictly gay relationship with Jim Hutton, that does not preclude him from being bisexual. Bisexuality simply means sexual and/or romantic attraction to both sexes regardless of whether you have romantic or sexual relations with both sexes. So either he could have been experimenting earlier in life before realizing he was strictly gay or was always bisexual but simply decides to have a monogamous gay relationship with a man later on. Since there seems to be a concessions that his sexuality is not definitively proven or pinned down but that he likely was gay or bisexual, I should think their should be a reliable source that suggests he was bisexual. If I or someone else can find such a source then I think we should at least include the speculation the he was bisexual in the article as we do with the idea he was exclusively gay currently. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 23:22, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I found this article from the The Uk newspaper, The Telegraph which mentions F.M. being labeled bisexual: Bryan Fuller accuses Bohemian Rhapsody trailer of hiding Freddie Mercury's bisexuality - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/05/16/bryan-fuller-accuses-bohemian-rhapsody-trailer-hiding-freddie/ Since this is a reliable source that mentions Freddie as being labeled bisexual by various people, it should count justification for adding the claim into the article, so unless someone can spell out another objection I would add the claim based on this article. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 23:33, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm unable to fullest or anything anymore as I no longer have a computer, there was an interview with Brian in the daily express a few years ago, so searching through their archive might be an idea. It's where this quote is from:

"I know that all through his life Fred didn't think that whether he was gay or not was important. He loved music, he love his work, and he didn't want anything to get in the way. Anyone who portrays Fred as purely a gay story is missing a lot of the point." Emrabt (talk) 19:20, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

There are researchers who say that there's no such thing as "bisexual", for instance J. Michael Bailey, who says that 75% of men who identify as bisexual respond physically exactly like a homosexual man, and 25% respond exactly like a heterosexual man, and that there is no measurable sexual response which falls in between. Many gay men report that, before they came out publicly, they often said they were bisexual, but they were really homosexual. Many gay male celebrities have reported being bisexual because it is less of a public relations problem than pure homosexuality. So there's a gigantic disconnect between saying one is bisexual and what one does in private life. Regarding Freddie Mercury, I don't see any benefit to the reader in trying to ferret out what he said about being bisexual, nor is it helpful to find which newspapers reported him to be bisexual. Instead, we should tell the reader what actually happened in his sex life, as best we know it. Binksternet (talk) 23:00, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

There are also researchers, including one recently published study that made the national news, that state clearly that bisexuality does indeed exist. This fact is backed up by countless bisexual identifying individuals that would attest on their mother's grave that indeed bisexuality does exists and they are not just confused or undecided as some gay and straight individuals claim. The fact that some people insists that bisexuality is bunk, an illogical claim IMO, whether do to misconceptions about sexuality or biphobia does not change the fact that he could have been bisexual. I realize that some gay people have reasons for wanting him to be strictly gay but the does not preclude the fact that he might have indeed been bisexual regardless of whether some people have a hard time accepting the existence of bisexuals. Of course it's very likely that some bisexual turned gay people where really just gay all along only later either able to see it, except it, or admit it. But of course some bisexuals may choose to identify as straight or gay depending on the type of relationship they are currently in to avoid biphobia or arguments that bisexuality does not exist. The issue here is simply that we cannot know for sure just what Freddy's sexuality was, only that it was almost certainly either gay or bisexual. If we mention he might have been gay then we should equally mention he might have been bisexual, regardless of whether everyone excepts the existence of bisexuality or not, since it's not Wikipedia's place to take a stand on that debate. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 20:24, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
@Notcharliechaplin: Thanks for the contributions! Can you show your proposed edit here as an rfc? Were you able to find any other sources? Alas, @Binksternet: I fear that that conversation belongs elsewhere :-) Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 19:02, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Here are two more reliable sources: NEW BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY TRAILER RECOGNIZES THAT FREDDIE MERCURY WAS, IN FACT, BISEXUAL - http://www.mtv.com/news/3082324/bohemian-rhapsody-trailer-freddie-mercury-bisexual/ Freddie Mercury's Life Is the Story of HIV, Bisexuality, and Queer Identity - https://www.advocate.com/hiv-aids/2016/11/23/freddie-mercurys-life-story-hiv-bisexuality-and-queer-identity I would propose something as simple as a sentence that "while some have describe or alleged that Freddy was gay other sources have describe or ellledaed that he was actually bisexual" with links to the three sources above. The advocate article touches on the argument I have made above that those claiming he was strictly gay may be doing so as the result of being unable to accept the existence if bisexuality or simply not wanting it to exists. We don't need to get into the debate about bisexuality's existence here though. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 20:49, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
The take-away is that the act of a man calling himself "bisexual" is very often a subterfuge. We should not be using this term. Binksternet (talk) 00:06, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Wrong! While some people may use the term bisexuality to hide that they are strictly gay or because they are confused, many bisexual identifying people who have never wavered on being bisexual would take great offense to calling the term bisexual a subterfuge. Like I said above, studies back that it does indeed exists as a sexual identity/orientation. The existence or homophobic and biphobic individuals make determining whether any bisexual-identifying or for that matter straight or gay identifying individual is being honest or not very difficult to determine. The bisexual closet does indeed exists IMO. The main issue here is whether notable people believe Freddy was bisexual not whether the identity exists or what some gay people want him to be. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 20:37, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
@Binksternet:As a non-cis member of the LGBTQ community, I share your frustration at the limits of our language and its ability to keep up with our evolving understanding of gender and sexuality. Please consider watching and contributing to the relevant topics, where your knowledge and passion can be put to good use. :-) Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 23:08, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
@Notcharliechaplin:I agree with your point about self-identifying members of the bi community, but calling another editor's comment "Wrong!" is not in keeping with WP:CIVIL. That said, I agree with you that the sexual orientation section needs help. I would start with the fact that he himself never directly addressed the issue. I would then present the fact that he was in two long-term relationships, one with a man and one with a woman and use that to present you content on being bi. Please do it here, though, to give other editors the chance to weigh in. Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 23:45, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
One's sexuality has to do with that person and that person only. Not others. That said, he seemed to privately tell people he was gay, not bisexual. He began cheating on Mary with men as early as 1973 after Queen's first album was released. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 01:25, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

@BrothaTimothy: Thanks for contributing. Sexual orientation is still such a fraught topic. Couple that with all of us to whom he is so important and making changes to that section of his article is like editing in a minefield. That's why I have been stressing making proposed changes here, as an RFC first, and the need for all added content to be thoroughly supported w/reliable, verifiable sources, keeping in mind MOS:BIO and WP:UNDUE. Informata ob Iniquitatum (talk) 02:19, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Instruments

Well. Why only vocal is mentioned? Freddie was brilliant pianist and he created his music on piano its obvious thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.42.136.198 (talk) 07:08, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

According to the "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" article, Freddie composed the song on guitar (although he acknowledged his lack of skill helped, telling Melody Maker "I can't play for nuts, and in one way it was quite a good thing...") and also played rhythm guitar when performing it live. JezGrove (talk) 22:19, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Bedside vigil

The article seemingly has a conflicting statement between Jim Hutton and Dave Clark based on the two statements below in the article. Hutton was present at his bed, wouldn't the vigil be his, vs it says that Dave Clark had taken over the beside vigil?

Hutton, who was tested HIV-positive in 1990, lived with Mercury for the last six years of his life, nursed him during his illness, and was present at his bedside when he died. Hutton said Mercury died wearing the wedding band that Hutton had given him.[90]
Mercury's close friend, Dave Clark of The Dave Clark Five, had taken over the bedside vigil when he died. Austin phoned Mercury's parents and sister to break the news of his death, which reached newspaper and television crews by the early hours of 25 November.[122]

Also, according to this source, Hutton was at his beside and in fact changing Freddy's clothing when he passed.

https://www.irishcentral.com/culture/entertainment/freddie-mercury-irish-partner-jim-hutton
"He was dosed on morphine and in Neverland," Hutton recalled. "He wet himself. I knew that if he woke up and saw that there'd be blue murder so we changed his underwear and while I was putting his boxers on I knew he'd gone. I went into my bedroom and stopped a carriage clock Freddie had given to me: the time was 12 minutes to 7."
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4898:80E8:3:606D:12B1:D12C:437B (talk) 17:04, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Name

The article leads with Freddie's name at birth, but... Didn't he legally change it? Shouldn't it read:

Freddie Mercury (5 September 1946 – 24 November 1991), known professionally as Farrokh Bulsara...

Or would that be wrong? --Daniel J. Hakimi (talk) 20:54, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

It was changed to Freddie. ...not the other way around.--Moxy (talk) 21:33, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Since he legally changed his name, Freddie Mercury is the real name and should headline the article, ie. Freddie Mercury (5 September 1946 – 24 November 1991), born as Farrokh Bulsara ... 158.140.1.28 (talk) 21:39, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2018

Change date of death from 24 November 1991 to 24 September 1991 [1] Dcalhoun56 (talk) 13:31, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done That would be adding a factual error. ... discospinster talk 14:16, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ The Story of Queen: Mercury Rising (FULL DOCUMENTARY) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OWPADFASFM

St. Mary's School, Mumbai

Freddie attended St. Mary's School (ISC) in Mumbai after his stint at St. Peter's, Panchgani. It was from here that he completed his schooling (matriculation). This ought to find mention in the 'Early Life' section.

For reference: http://www.linnrecords.com/artist-freddie-mercury.aspx https://www.last.fm/music/Freddie+Mercury/+wiki?setlang=en https://freddiemercury4ever.wordpress.com/biography/ https://www.mid-day.com/articles/the-incubator-of-excellence/15091077

St. Mary's wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary%27s_School,_Mumbai — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.7.178.1 (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Too much detail about the film?

Seems to me most of the section about the recent movie doesn't need to be in this article -- it has nothing to do with Freddie Mercury but rather with the movie itself (casting issues, that sorta stuff.) We have a perfectly good article about the movie, of course. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 06:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Link to reference 33 is broken

Sutcliffe, Phil; Hince, Peter; Mack, Reinhold (2009), Queen: The Ultimate Illustrated History of the Crown Kings of Rock, London: Voyageur Press, ISBN 978-0-7603-3719-6

404. That’s an error.

The requested URL /?id=adNONbUWLjgC&pg=PT25&dq=Bulsara,+to+Mercury&redir_esc=y was not found on this server. That’s all we know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephengulliver (talk • contribs) 10:14, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2018

Freddie Mercury was an Indian origin British 115.96.29.84 (talk) 20:31, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:32, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

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why does this article try to paint a bisexual as a homosexual?

The whole sexuality section is a bunch of garbage in garbage out nonsense68.117.93.248 (talk) 08:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

My reading of the section seems to have Wikipedia quite deliberately not saying he was gay or bi. Instead, it relies -- as it should -- on what reliable sources say. If there are sources which directly state Mercury's orientation, they would be a useful addition to the section. - SummerPhDv2.0 18:20, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Yet amazingly his decade long hetero relationship and self proclaimed love of his life is not even mentioned anywhere in that section. The section seems to be purely attempting to inject homosexuality into a bisexuals wiki page Both the "openly gay" cites do not back up the claim. One doesn't even exist/wok and the other is just some random dudes claim that has nothing to do with Mercury, so how in the world does he know he's "openly gay". If he was openly gay there should be no lack if friends/family to back up the claim, yet to get this bogus quote they rely on "commentators". It's already been established by firsthand sources(austinin this case) that he considered himself Bsexual, not homosexual68.117.93.248 (talk) 10:04, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Both the "openly gay" cites do not back up the claim. "The Zanzibar-born singer who was openly gay…" is pretty clear, IMO. (Granted, the cite isn't formatted correctly and I'm not sure how to fix it.) In any case, an article in Time is hardly some random dudes claim.
You'll have to trust me when I say I am quite familiar with bi erasure and am sensitive to the concern. That said, Wikipedia cannot/will not combine sources saying Mercury was gay with indications he had heterosexual relationships and declare that he was bisexual.
For this project, the gold standard is self identity. If we had a reliable source having Mercury state directly that he was bisexual, the section would lead with a statement that Mercury was bisexual, followed by the speculation in the press that bounced around throughout his career. We don't seem to have that.
Failing that, for a deceased subject, we are looking at not only whether or not we have a reliable source saying he was bisexual, but the weight of the sources.
You seem to be hoping for the article to state that Mercury was bisexual. For that to happen, we will need several reliable sources directly stating that, such that the "openly gay" statement becomes the minority view. We are nowhere near that right now.
From the sources that we currently have, I highly doubt any change to the article would survive. The best bet here is to look for more sources.
I already told you there are firsthand accounts recorded of him saying he was bisexual. Austin's testimony is a million times more of a standard than random nobodies refereed to as "commentators" who knew absolutely nothing about him. Further, the nonsnse about "Acting like a tart" or whatever trash is written that have nothing to do with sexuality in the first place should be removed. That or sasha baron cohen needs a section on his homosexuality because of characters he portrayed. Ridiculous. The section is 90% trash detached from anything remotely encyclopedic68.117.93.248 (talk) 02:40, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
I am trying to help. I'd appreciate if you would moderate your tone.
If you have a reliable source, please provide the source and quote the relevant material. - SummerPhDv2.0 02:44, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2301718/Freddie-Mercury-Queen-stars-lover-Mary-Austin-cursed-fortune.html "’ Afterwards he felt good about having finally told me he was bisexual.". Earlier she mentions his apparent intent to lead a bisexual lifestyle and how if she had taken parrt she'd probabaly have aids and be dead, too.68.117.93.248 (talk) 04:32, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
You aren't going to like reading this: WP:DAILYMAIL. - SummerPhDv2.0 05:06, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
Not only can we not use The Daily Mail as a reliable source, but even if we could, 68.117.93.248, you seem to have conveniently missed the very next sentence of the Austin quote you provided, namely, [H]e felt good about having finally told me he was bisexual. Although I do remember saying to him at the time, 'No Freddie, I don’t think you are bisexual. I think you are gay.' She's quoted saying that in plenty of RS, too. Armadillopteryxtalk 10:25, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
I feel it should at least be mentioned that he has been interpreted by many as bisexual. We shouldn't declare him "bisexual", "homosexual", "pansexual", "questioning" or anything else specific in my opinion, he did not identify openly and any claims by people around him seem to be at worst contradictory and at best personal interpretations with some interesting thoughts. The section is going to be speculation and interpetations no matter what we try to do with it.★Trekker (talk) 17:30, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

John deacon

Why leave John out?? He was a member of queen too Queenfan2 (talk) 01:10, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Freddie Mercury s ethnicity

The reason I am writing is I feel it’s not right to completely ignore the fact his parents hailed from India and yes Parsi did come from Persia but in that case you want to let pp know of the originality of their origins then you will have to make changes to all the famous pp mentioned in Wikipedia. He was born in 1946 so a year after brits left India most of the immigrant Indians you people show descent as the original contry but not in his case as he was famous and did not like being associated with India. That’s pretty lame excuse I say. Florasrr (talk) 15:07, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

The quotations from his brother in law and his mother in this article seem to indicate that he identified himself as Parsi as far as his ethnicity is concerned. Iblardi (talk) 18:34, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
The source you provide also states pretty explicitly that his parents were Indian and that they left Zanzibar due to revolution targeting Indians (as was common in parts of Africa during decolonization). Mother never said he wasn't Indian, she said he was Parsi, which is accurate. Objectively speaking, Parsis are regarded by the wider Zoroastrian community and by others as Indian Zoroastrians, even though their ancestry is Persian. While within an Indian context, they are a Persian-descended ethnic-religious group and often do identify themselves as Persian or Iranian within an Indian setting, outside of India its not accurate to say they are just "Persian" or "not Indian". Parsis are not simply Persians interchangeable with modern Iranian Persians whose stay in India is merely incidental as is the case with Armenian diaspora groups or Straits Chinese in Southeast Asia. Their presence in India for almost 1.5 thousand years has fundamentally changed them significantly making them a very VERY distinctive community within India and throughout the world. Their names are distinct (a hybridization of Persian, Indian and English influences), their food is distinct, their culture is distinctive, their dress is distinct and their language is distinct from anything in Iran. They are fundamentally Indianized. They're a hybrid community not unlike other such minority communities in Western India which historically traded heavily with the Middle East, giving rise to distinct minorities like Kerala Syriac and Nestorian/Assyrian Christians, Cochin Jews, Mappila Arab Muslims, Arab communities in Karnataka and Maharashtra, Dawoodi Bohra's of Yemeni origin in Gujarat and Parsi-Zarathustris in Gujarat. Freddie Mercury's own name is indicative of this hybrid identity. His first name Farrokh is Persian while his last name Bulsara is Indian/Gujarati. He grew up in India and finally his birth certificate states that he was nationally Indian (British Indian to be exact given it was still the British Raj) and ethnically Parsi (which was common for classifications of Indian populations as they were fragmented by ethnicity and religion, Parsis were no different). East Africa, including Zanzibar, had a huge Gujarati Indian population with different Gujarati communitis such as Hindu Banias, Ismaili Shias and Parsi Zoroastrians, the latter particularly in places like Mombasa and Zanzibar, as well as Goan Catholics. Freddie may or may not have not felt particularly attached to India due to having been separated from his family when living there and in a racially charged Britain with extensive racism to Asians, may have felt more comfortable just calling himself Persian as it wasn't particularly targeted by British racists, it was part of his ancestry and it sounded more exotic than just being a "paki." But objectively speaking, Parsis are an Indian Zoroastrian community of Persian origins and the article should not indulge in this pattern of distinguishing Parsis from Indians which isn't done for any other article on a Parsi celebrity or famous personage on Wikipedia. Scarsdale.vibe (talk) 17:16, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

more on attempts to obscure his sexuality straight from mercury's own biographer

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/10/23/bohemian-rhapsody-film-accused-airbrushing-freddie-mercurys/ She even just cmes out and says it: they are trying to erase his bisexuality. And her comments on barbara don't even remotely find agreement with what tiny little bit of nothing is written in the article about her.97.88.145.106 (talk) 00:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Range reference under Career>Singer

I have the book that was referenced (Popular Singing: a practical guide) in referral to Freddie's range and cannot find information about his range anywhere in the text. He is only mentioned two times, and both times only in passing. Should another reference be put there instead? Zasdercom (talk) 01:28, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

I suspect that book is referenced just for the definitions of F2 and F6, and that other references in the paragraph refer to his range. Note that at the end of that section, there are citations to a research study that was unable to confirm the range claimed by prior sources. The Popular Singing should be replaced with something else. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:44, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2019

Freddie Mercuries name Bob Frank 2A00:23C5:3E80:A601:8572:CD91:C98:801A (talk) 21:55, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 22:21, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Did Freddie Mercury have four supernumerary incisors?

Currently the article cites a review of the movie 'Bohemian Rhapsody', which is maybe not the most reliable source for such a claim. Other, equally unreliable sources (e.g. this, this, this, this, or this), claim that at least some of his extra teeth were in the back of his mouth, so probably premolars or molars. I would suggest to change the sentence to "He was born with hyperdontia, to which he attributed his enhanced vocal range." until a good source is found which specifies where the extra teeth were located. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.2.167.223 (talk) 09:26, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

"...born with four additional incisors."CBS News - merPhDv2.0 18:08, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2019

Freddie Mercury’s didn't leave a will. Freddie Mercury commissioned Queen's bass guitarist John Deacon as the executor of his wealth. The only requirement is: "Don't make me bored!" The first person to release a solo album was the drummer Roger Taylor. The band and each member chose to rest and develop independently after eight years of exhausting tour and constant disagreement. Freddy Mercury didn't betray the band. Guitarist Brian May wrote the epitaph for Freddy Mercury. Freddy Mercury, who believed in Persian Zoroastrianism, was buried publicly. The information above came directly from BBC's documentary "Days of Our Lives" and the first-hand interviews of the band members. The immortal music genius Freddie Mercury! Always remembered by real fans! Forever Freddy Mercury — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:648:8500:7640:D01D:ED78:B77F:EAF6 (talk) 11:39, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2019

Songs, Reviews, Credits 182.57.103.164 (talk) 13:01, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. General Ization Talk 13:08, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2019

REMOVE the claim that he is one of the greatest vocalists of all time because it is a fancruft statement. Thats exactly what was told to me by Discospinster, Binksternet and Flight time when i added the same kind of statement in Bruce Dickinson's article supported by a reliable source which publishes the biographies and facts about famous peoples. So why this isn't fancruft or does fan following is what that matters here. 2409:4063:200C:E5CD:0:0:1EC0:C0AC (talk) 18:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 18:56, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Please note I said no such thing to the user, and I don't appreciate words being put in my mouth. Here is the exchange in question. ... discospinster talk 20:45, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
FlightTime Congratulations brother! You washed up your sins. Regards 2409:4063:200C:E5CD:D54D:6774:269B:C13D (talk) 04:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
PD Rivers restored the information with a bit of rewording, to tell the reader that Mercury was regarded as one of the best lead singers in rock music, which is well-sourced. Good work, PD Rivers. I don't think we should be removing this assessment, which is found in many sources. Bruce Dickinson doesn't have anywhere near so many sources describing him the same way. Binksternet (talk) 23:21, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Good point, agreed. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:27, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Add more information about his time in India.

More information about him and his family during their stay in India can be added & prominent stories can be discussed. Additionally in the Education section this can be added: 'St. Peter's Boys School, India' Joy Akaia (talk) 19:12, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

‘Undisclosed’ my foot

It is a well known fact that Mercury entrusted the care of his ashes to the executor Henry James ‘Jim’ Beach. On February 25 2013, public attention was drawn to a plaque bearing his birth name and the French words ‘Pour Être Toujours Près De Toi Avec Tout Mon Amour’. This translates to ‘To Be Forever Close To You With All My Love”’. However on March 5 2013, it was discovered that the plaque had been removed. Marie Murphy, the manager of Kensal Green Cemetery says ‘We get people coming here all the time thinking Freddie Mercury’s buried here, but he isn’t. The family took the ashes away.’ Lesley Ann Jones, stated in Freddie Mercury’s biography, that he is buried in an unmarked grave next to his grandmother, Devkor Bulsara in Brookwood Cemetery. But there is no evidence for this. But the truth is that on an unknown day and hour Bomi Bulsara took Freddie Mercury’s ashes to a dahma known as the Tower Of Silence on Mount Malabar in Bombay alongside the remains of his ancestors in accordance with Zoroastrian tradition. Because in Zoroastrianism it is considered a sin to burn or bury a body. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rivirian King of the Rails (talk • contribs) 17:48, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

The article says "undisclosed" because the sources say "undisclosed". If you have a reliable source giving the location, please add it here. - SummerPhDv2.0 15:06, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

How do u add a source Rivirian King of the Rails (talk) 09:17, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

born a British Citizen?

Article states: «As Zanzibar was a British protectorate until 1963, Mercury was born a British citizen.»

Is this possible in 1946 for someone born in Zanzibar? In 1946, he would have been born a British subject, I believe.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_British_nationality_law#British_Nationality_Act_1948)

In 1948, he would have become a Citizen of the UK and Colonies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.143.210.74 (talk) 02:46, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I am not an expert but I don't understand how he could have been born a citizen. Wouldn't he, and/or his parents, have had at some point to claim the "Citizen(ship) of the UK and Colonies" after the 1948 act? I don't think it was automatic:
Until they acquired one or other of the national citizenships, these people continued to be British subjects without citizenship.
I guess he might have been born a British subject through his parents even though Zanzibar as a British protectorate and not under direct rule.
I don't think "British Indian" means anything other than being born in, or having parents from (in this case), India while it was under British rule.
I'd like to know if I am right or wrong. Please help if you know more.
Óli Gneisti (talk) 18:48, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Include something about Paul Prenter

It seems weird that Freddie's manager for almost 10 years it not mentioned once in this article, especially given the prominence of Paul in the Bohemian_Rhapsody_(film) (I understand that he may not be popular with Queen fans, but his omission from the Wikipedia page seems to be a gross historical misrepresentation). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doddieaj (talk • contribs) 09:37, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

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