Talk:Franz Krommer

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opus 95 and some of those other duplicated opus nos.[edit]

Odd... a search reveals a few scores in libraries of contemporary editions (from the 1800s) of a piano quartet opus 95, and several modern publications (only modern, or anyway 1975 and more recent say) from different sources of a clarinet quintet with the same opus number (and a few recordings- of the quintet only). (Similarly I think I noticed with other duplications: the modern scores vs. the older scores. If issuing a work -never- published before why use the op. no. system at all when the cataloguing system should be replacing it gradually anyway as in the case of Dvorak and Burghauser nos.?)

I think one of these scores may be at the library I have best access to and may specify the source on which it's based, hopefully too why the choice of an opus number already used by the composer (or his publisher...) for another work. (If it's just out of a notion that people now won't play a Krommer piano quartet but will a Krommer clarinet quintet, they're probably right. Of the string quartets that are available in modern editions only one of the very earliest gets recorded, nothing from his maturity. Wind-players have less to choose from among his contemporaries, goes the reasoning, more competition in quartet/symphony/... then- also true. Mostly, not entirely, of course -- to put in that necessary proviso :) ) Schissel | Sound the Note! 14:12, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Symphonies[edit]

This article states that Krommer composed "at least" five symphonies. This is true. I always see it said that he composed nine. I know of at least one other (without opus), so there's six. But the number always given is that he completed 9 during his lifetime, with a few sketches of two or three others known (but not far along). Krommer's Symphony #7 is recognised as being lost, according the liner notes in the Chandos CD and other things I've read, but the music for 8 surviving symphonies still exists. Six of these appear to be available in scores right now from suppliers. Smyslov 13:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes- I wanted to be conservative with information available to me that I could source (German Wikipedia gave a larger number but depending on their source in turn, I wanted to see cataloguing references to each score before I went further... should have checked/should still check to see if I could find Rita Benton's work. And how many violin concertos, string quartets, ... - well, most of the string quartets and quintets are in parts at Cornell's library, actually, I think. Should double-check, but I think I've looked through them... along with Onslow's and Reicha's respectively? Again, will look. And then after counting, details, details, performance history and work information eg... unless that's too much of a muchness for the article... - I see the premiere or perhaps near-premiere of the 3rd sym may have been in the Hague, for instance...) Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Links[edit]

Will try to rationalize the links somewhat so that [2] isn't followed by ^[1] and interspersed and on (I like the newer, though not Spohr-allerneueste (think Ludwig Spohr's symphony no. 6 or anything else that sends up the latest fad...) system better anyway...) Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Separate article for worklist[edit]

Apologies for the worklist- any objection if it's moved to a separate page as with Czerny's, with pared-down references to primary pages etc. and a summary (9 symphonies, about 100 quintets for strings, a few for flute and strings, etc., n flute concertos, oboe concertos, ...) here based on it and on Benton and Padrta's work? Schissel | Sound the Note! 15:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kramer-Krommer[edit]

I've seen him referred to, rather ridiculously, as "Franz Kramer-Krommer". This extremely odd formulation was not intended to suggest he had a hyphenated surname, but to communicate that there has been confusion/disagreement about whether to spell it as Kramer or Krommer, and because both forms are found, this was apparently seen (by someone who obviously wasn't thinking straight) as the middle course. Maybe we ought to make some mention of it. -- JackofOz (talk) 04:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Symphony broadcasts[edit]

Czech Radio (probably Radio Vltava) recorded in 1970, and broadcast a symphony in C in three movements lasting 13 minutes by Kramar. This could be the 9th or the Pastorallis, I think? (http://www2.rozhlas.cz/archivy/index.php?HLEDPO=632110 ) Does the 9th have a scherzo/minuet movement? Schissel | Sound the Note! 07:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Moravia vs. Czech Republic?[edit]

Most references I have found say Krommer was born in Moravia. The Wiki page says Czech Republic, which didn't even exist in the period he lived. Yes, Moravia was later absorbed by Czechoslovakia & later the Czech Republic, but historically this reference seems like an anachronism. Any thoughts? Hifrommike65 (talk) 19:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]