Talk:Frank Hedges Butler

I certainly didn't cut and paste from this website, which in fact I have never seen: the material comes from the cited sources. Any resemblance is coincidental: biographies tend to have the same information in similar order, and sometimes it is almost impossible to avoid using identical or very similar phraseology.TheLongTone (talk) 10:52, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Regarding sources, I note that the bot-identified source uses much the same phrasing as the ODNB article, which in turn is very similar to the obit in The TimesTheLongTone (talk) 08:10, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

It could be (I don't have access to either to be able to check). The point here, however, is not where artwarefineart.com got its content from, but where the content in this article came from. It seems to me unacceptably close to the supposed source. Examples:

Source	Initial version of the article
Hedges Butler was one of the first persons in England to own a motor-car. He acquired a Benz car in 1897, and in the same year was appointed first honorary treasurer of the newly-formed Automobile Club of Great Britain, a post which he held until 1902	He was was one of the first people in Britain to own a motor car, buying a Benz in 1897, and was the first honorary treasurer of the newly formed Automobile Club of Great Britain, a post which he held until 1902
... in 1894 founded the Imperial Institute Orchestral Society, in which he played one of the first violins	... in 1894 he founded the Imperial Institute Orchestral Society, in which he played one of the first violins

That seems to me to be a closer resemblance than could be accounted for by coincidence - as, say, "was born in London on 17 December 1855" reasonably might be. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:23, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I've edited or removed the offending phrase.TheLongTone (talk) 13:13, 4 August 2014 (UTC)