Talk:Female ejaculation/Archive 1

Comment from copious ejaculator

I find this site of much interest as I am a female who ejaculates. The reactions from the men in my life have convinced me that what is a normal experience for me is not ordinary for most women. I would be interested in learning more about this. I can testify that it is not a myth and I've experienced several different types of ejaculation from a spurt of milky white fluid to a draining of fluid that soaks through layers of towels and literally wets the bed!

You're not alone, I'm the same. I think the issue is most women just don't know how to do it, or even realize they can. -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 07:20, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I wish there was better information about this on the internet! I just started having sex 8 months ago but I didn't ejaculate until 2 months ago. It was soooo startling!! At first it looked like something that would only happen every once and a while, but now it happens almost every time I'm with my boyfriend, even three and four times in the same night. For me it comes from the urethra (there is enough of a thicker liquid draining from the other place to leave small spots also) but definitely looks and smells nothing like urine (besides I usually go to the bathroom beforehand)... it's clear and odorless and leaves huge puddles on the bed or wherever. My boyfriend likes it but I think it's kinda weird. I have no one to discuss it with either.128.239.183.207 00:59, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

–My man knew more about this than I did. The first time it happened he asked when did I start doing it and followed up with please do it again :o)

Dispute of references

JamesDay has added reference to a ficticious study. The study is written by a man who got his doctorate in education, NOT medicine. [1] The study is written by the Electronic Journal of Human Sexuality, which is not acknowledged by the American Medical Association. The study is false. Kingturtle 06:27, 3 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Is the study inaccurate, rather than simply appearing in a publication not acknowledged by the AMA? If you believe that it is inaccurate, please say which studies cause you to believe so or have reported that it is inaccurate. Seems unlikely, for it appears to correlate well with the standard views on the subject, though what it found may not be popular with some experiencing the phenomenon. JamesDay 08:37, 3 Nov 2003 (UTC)

First of all, the study is written by a Doctor of Education, *NOT* a Medical Doctor. Second of all, the study involves seven subjects, only *one* of which was tested twice. For any such study to have any weight, it has to be done on a much larger population, and *all* subjects must go through the test a *second* time. That is how the scientific method works. Studies hinge on replicating your results. Kingturtle 10:20, 9 Nov 2003 (UTC)

That makes a lot more sense, since it's presumably not fictitious or false. The person conducting it appears to be a qualified sexolgist and I'll leave you to debate the merits of that title with the AMA if you wish, since what I care about is accuracy. I agree that it isn't anywhere like thorough enough (and not replicated widely by other researchers elsewhere, the vital component of the scientific method) to be definitive on the subject. That aside, do you believe that any of the changes I made were in any way inaccurate? Does any significant population still believe that the vagina rather than the urethra is typically the exit point of the fluid or is it uncontroversial to change that word? Does any significant population believe that the source of most of the fluid when large quantities are expelled is anywhere other than the bladder?

Can we remove the dispute header?

I added a number of citations and references, and a bit to the text, does anybody still dispute this article? Jack 07:31, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

• I still dispute it, whole-heartedly. Kingturtle 07:48, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Do you dislike my references, or some other matter? I did not use any information from the previously disputed source (to my knowledge!). Jack 07:52, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Changes have been made, what do you think? What would you like to have in order for the dispute header to be removed? Jack 08:46, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

It seems weird to me that someone is insisting on keeping a "dispute header" on the article without indicating what statement(s) he is contesting. -- Jmabel 08:54, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Well, I assume there was a very good reason at one point, and there may still be one. On the other hand, I think the fewer disputed articles on the wiki the better, for obvious reasons, so I'd love to see any necessary changes made. Suggestions please? Jack 08:59, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Going toward the opposite POV?

This seems to have moved from being biased in favor of accepting the phenonomenon as real to being biased against it. At the very least, the claims of those who believe the phenomenon is real, even if not firmly scientifically proven, deserve thorough (if contextualized) reporting. After all, a widespread belief merits an article about the belief even if it is not demonstrably true. -- Jmabel 23:10, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Yes, as it stands this article is dreadful, and innacurate (it gives a reference something which is rejected early on in the article!). Jack 10:34, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I removed a sentance, and I feel much better about it now :). Jack 10:36, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Evidently the significance is disputed and/either/or vandalized regarding webcam squirter Joysquirt. All attempts to resolve go in continuous unexplained loop. So article cannot be re-edited after deletion. Does anyone have actual admin email or easy answer to resolve? Many witnesses can attest to the private matter regarding Joysquirt and claims made regarding validity to such. The article told secrets about how to tell what's real or trick squirting within the porn industry. This is informative for those doing research or just curious about the subject of female ejaculation.

If so email me at joysquirt4u at yahoo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by joysquirt (talk • contribs) .

Are we there yet?

Again, I think this page is in great NPOV shape. What say you, oh disputor of the female ejac? Jack 06:07, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Close enough that I've removed the accuracy dispute tag I added some months ago. Thanks to you and the others who added some peer review to the process and made it unnecessary for the discussion to go the one on one edit war route! Jamesday 06:13, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

experiments

Believe me, the phenomenon is real and this is obviously not urine simply medical science as a limited knowledge on the subject because it's hard to conduct experiments. Ericd 03:55, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

• It is easy to conduct experiments. How is it difficult? Kingturtle 01:56, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • I suspect that what would be needed would be to assemble a group of test women and ask them to masturbate using various techniques (with/without a dildo etc...) and have an orgasm in front of a witness or camera, after which samples could be collected. This, as Kingturtle says, does not pose important experimental problems, but I think it would definitely be difficult to do (getting funding, getting test subjects, getting experimentators...). David.Monniaux 06:59, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • I think my wife might object if I took this on as a full time research project... Sam Spade 07:01, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • No original research on Wikipedia please :) Use KaZaa. Dori | Talk 07:02, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
      • Good point dori! The resreach is already out there, all that needs done is a throrough inspection of said materials *retrieves reading glasses* Sam Spade 07:06, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
• To be half-serious as the frequency of the phenomenon is low and the presence of an experimentation protocol will reduce it's probability of occcurence, you'll need to experiment on a large sample and there's not much profit to expect in that kind of research (and your wife may disagree). Thus there's very few experiments. This is somewhat like flying saucers, there's 4 cases :
• You're a witness and you know it exist,
  • You're not a witness and you think witnesses don't tell the truth,
  • You're not a witness and you think witnesses tell the truth,
  • You're not a witness and you're in doubt.
• As of today, I haven't seen any flying saucers. Ericd 10:45, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I disagree that a large sample is needed. Frequency of the experience isn't what is at question, only the existence. Proving existence only requires a sall set of subjects that exhibit the phenomenon. Given this, it is valid for a self-selected group of test subjects to demonstrate in a clinical setting and for the experimentors to validate that the composition of the ejaculated fluid is generally different from "plain" urine. - UtherSRG 00:49, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I've actually experienced female ejaculation, if anybody is interested. Sam Spade 21:51, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Only if she's available for me to experience as well. *grins* - UtherSRG 00:49, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thats 'experiment', not experience, you.. ;) Sam Spade 07:38, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Why am I basically the only woman here? No need to experiment... just ask people. As for me, I do, my boyfriend gladly scrutinizes... and it comes from the vagina, it's not urine, and it has a slight sweet taste. I can only ejaculate if I quickly remove the penis or dildo when I feel the pressure mounting... if it stays inside it still can happen, but it ends up gushing/seeping out the sides... I can squirt an arch if I do time it right. We've both tasted it and it's slightly sweet... thow two facts combined proves it to NOT be urine. Also as stated in one of the threads above, I have experimented by going to the bathroom and not drinking liquids for a while before doing it... and it still happens. I don't know why this has to remain such a freaking mystery... can we all grow the hell up already? Personally I'd like to see it remain a mysterious taboo... that way we "special" girls can have the enigma all to ourselves. On a serious note... it was ever so fun to discover I could squirt a guy in the eye... lol, reverse bukkake! That's what you are all really afraid of. -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 07:35, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

How is this even a discussion? Female ejaculation is real and why are you trying so hard to prove otherwise, claim it urine, or most absurdly that it is fluid ejected due to vaginal contraction? Having dated a woman who was both multiply orgasmic and ejeculated I can tell you from hundreds of hours of experience that it is most definitely real. No one could possibly urinate that much under any circumstances. In fact I initiated a policy of cutting off oral sex at 2 hours because 2) I'm not sure it's such a good idea for someone a few gallons of fluid a couple times a week! 2) that much fluid can seriously damage a bed or whatever else is around 3) muscle cramps (her stomach felt like she had done 500 sit-ups). Female ejeculate does indeed "squirt" especially if both the G-spot and the analogous external area above it are stimulated then it will squirt quite powerfully of its own accord. How is this being contested? I am aghast. If you have not personally witnessed this (or, even better, experienced it!) what information could you possibly have to offer? Again, I am appaled at your behavior. This is something that effects the intimate emotional lives of real people.

It's a discussion because there haven't been many formal studies on the matter, and little is known for sure. Things that effect the intimate emotional lives of real people should be discussed, not ignored. All your histronics will avail for nothing.--Prosfilaes 09:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I absolutely love the articles written by Natsukigirl regarding the phenomena of squirting. Nice to meet all of you, this is Joysquirt4u at yahoo. I really think as a squirter myself, that all who have experienced this will notice a sugary-taste with somethings which are needing more research. But truly this is sugary. (Ironic that I have no sugar in my diet) I would personally love to be part of a actual "college" research team, like a "new age" Kinsey survey (Dr. Alfred Kinsey 1894-1956) This subject is controversial and interesting enough to bring attention to itself. For years I had trouble reaching orgasm. Recently, I believe I either tricked my body to multiple orgasms (after 30 days of masturbation on webcam), or that it happens with age for a few lucky women.....Either way, this subject of climax is obviously important to empowering us all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joysquirt (talk • contribs) .

Personal experience

I have some personal experience on the matter. I have had a fair amount of sexual partners over the years and I never hesitate to "go down" on my women. (That is, to use my mouth and tongue to stimulate the woman in the crotch / genital area.) My experience is that women exert three kinds of liquids during sex while being stimulated and during orgasms. I differentiate these liquids based on taste, consistency, colour, and from where they secrete. Most women exert vaginal juice during sex. Sometimes so much that it more or less flows out of the vagina. Some women also seem to more or less "sweat" vaginal juice out of the area surrounding the vagina, although that might be juices that have flown from the vagina itself. I have never seen vaginal juice "squirt", although I can imagine that could happen since some women produce a lot of vaginal juice during sex and do contract their vagina very hard during orgasm. The second fluid clearly is urine. Some women indeed squirt some urine out of the urethra during their orgasm and I find that pretty natural considering the amount of muscle contractions going on in the area at that moment. Not very nice to get in the mouth but what don't you do to keep your woman happy? (By the way, the suggestion by some writers here to empty the bladder prior to sex to rule out urine won't work. The time it takes for most women to reach an orgasm more than well gives the kidneys time to produce some more urine.) The third fluid seems to be the most unusual. I have only experienced it on some women. It also squirts from the urethra during the orgasm but clearly is NOT urine since it is white, it is thicker than urine (but usually not as thick as a male ejaculation), and it tastes just like the male fluid. And that is at least what I call female ejaculation. Note that I have experienced female ejaculation also when only stimulating the clitoris knob so the stimulation of the G-spot doesn't seem necessary in all cases. By the way, most women do exert a fourth liquid during sex: They tend to sweat a lot!

.../Davidgothberg 07:00, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Sounds like a good research. Perhaps, you should document it properly and convince other sexology experts? --Rrjanbiah 06:32, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

That is vile. If your partners are pissing on you, they clearly have bladder control issues. As my the owner of a genuine vagina, and a boyfriend, we can both attest that my ejaculations originate in from my VAGINA, not my urethra. In fact, when I first had one, I was worried about it, but he said it not, and that if it had been urine, he would have moved out of the way. We both tasted my ejaculate and it was a clear liquid with a slightly sweet taste. I have even experimented by not drinking fluids and frequently visiting the bathroom before having sex to test the theory. I'm sorry to break the news to you... but you are either a blind moron or you have been with some pretty gross women. -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 07:39, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I am a male registered nurse with extensive personal experience with female ejaculation. For a period of about one year, I dated a girl who ejaculated. I will provide for you the facts that I have observed and then state my conclusion. My then girlfriend ejaculated most frequently while being fisted or using a large dildo. She reported that her clitoris was too sensative for direct stimulation so the source of all of her orgasms were vaginal. Her orgams were accompanied by loud vocalization and rhythmic contractions of her abdominal muscles. The fluid produced was different than some that I have seen described. Relatively large quantities were produced, enough to soak the sheets. In every instance the fluid was expelled from her urethra with enough force to travel several feet. The fluid was actually clear to slightly brown in color. It was bitter in taste, thin and slightly malodorous. I have come to the conclusion that in these instances, the fluid was not urine. This is not only due to the fact that it had none of the characteristics of urine, but also due to the fact that large quantities were produced just minutes after a complete emptying of her bladder. It is important to note that the average individual produces 1/2 ml of urine per kg of body weight per hour. (Thats about 30ml or 1oz every hour) The average individual cannot physically produce urine that quickly. Also worth mentioning is that I have reviewed hours of video of more than two dozen women who expereince female ejaculation. All of the videos were amateur pornography and each instance was unique and differed from the others. One must understand that just as with coughing or sneezing, for example, every person's orgams is different. It is not a stretch to say that every woman experiences orgams differently and that one case of female ejaculation may differ very much from another. My advice to anyone who doubts that this is a real phenomenon is this: Have a sexual experience with a woman who ejaculates; watch a few dozen movies; somehow gain some personal experience so that you know what you're talking about before you try to disprove something you know nothing about.

Another Firsthand Account

I can understand all your varying views on this subject. Personally, I never believed that female ejaculation was real, until it happened to me. I can testify that it is decidedly NOT urine that is ejecting from my nether region, in fact it looks and smells nothing like urine. I can't vouch for the taste, having never tasted urine.... but anyway, it does require INTENSE stimulation of the G-spot for me, clitoral stimulation would never do it. As for which hole it is coming out of, I couldn't tell you. I just know that the term "facial" can apply to either partner..............!

What it taste ? Good or bad is a a personnal matter... But I can testify it's not salty like urine is suppposed to be.

I second you. I thought it tasted slightly sweet, my boyfriend said so as well. He is the one who assured me it came from my vagina and was no urine... and knowing my boyfriend, if it had been urine we probably would not still be together, hahaha. -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 07:43, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Peer Reviewed Journal

I recently reverted a POV entry critquing the fact that there are no peer-reviewed medical (AMA?) journals verifing female ejaculation. While it may be appropriate to add this, it should be done in a NPOV way such as. "There are currently no (AMA) peer reviewed medical journals that document this phenomenon. And is therefore not commonly accepted among the medical community." I'm not versed enough on the subject to make this call though. I leave it to the other editors Wynler 03:03:40, 2005-08-09 (UTC)

The person who's been adding it has done it several times. That user needs to come here and talk it out before he makes other edits. Until then, any edits from that user are suspect. DoomBringer 04:47, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

A simple PubMed search for "female ejaculation" returns about a dozen obviously-relevant entries, although some are not in English and some others are letter replies to other listed articles. Understudied or studied in some other context, maybe, but certainly not none. This article appears particularly relevant. — mendel ☎ 01:45, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

— mendel ☎ 01:45, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

My ejaculation comes from my vagina... end of story

I'm amazed so many women are ignorant about this... well, maybe not, as most women still live in the stoneage and are fearful of their hole. Anyway, I've done several personal experiments... such as urinating and not drinking for hours before trying it, the results were the same. My boyfriend has also closely inspected the events, in which he assured me it was ejecting from my vagina, and not my urethra. Also, when I ejaculate and the penis or dildo is not quickly removed, nothing squirts, it simply pours out around the penis. My urine comes out in a criss-cross stream, and I can never arch it... however when I squirt ejaculate it is always a graceful globular-water arch, and it is never cloudy or milk or yellow... always clear like water. We have both tasted it and discovered it has a slightly sweet flavor. The only time I have "milky" discharge is if I've been sexually excited or had a clitoral orgasm... and then fingered the discharge out after a while... for example, if I masturbate before bed, I will find the milky, gooy discharge in the morning when I shower. Also G-spot ejaculation and clitoral orgasm are not connected, my ejaculation is not orgasmic... and likewise my clit orgasm does not cause ejaculation. -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 07:50, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Encouragements

I have the urge to give utmost encouragements to User:NatsukiGirl for steadfastly putting forward her experiences and attesting on occurrences of female ejaculation, despite massive scepticism. Personally I consider it a privilege to induce it successfully and an extraordinary privilege if the women has never undergone it. Without digressing further, please muster up as many testimonies as possible somewhere (here or elsewhere). Mission9801

Thanks! I'm just shocked as to how something so easy to research is still so controversial. Let's update ourselves to the 21st century folks, shall we? Before long we won't even need this debate anymore, as all sexual stimulation will be transmitted directly to our brains via computer. Hahahaha. ;) -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 21:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

These occurrences are not easy to research unless, as I said, we're able to muster up a big body of testimonies. I do not wish your deeds to be just a one-woman crusade, nor your (and your boyfriend's) labour to be in vain. I expect to be privileged, not just gratified, to induce one. Mission9801 01:50, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

porn/urine myth

I've been pondering the porn section of the article... I think the cases of urination trying to be passed off as genuine ejaculation is what is causing confusion. We ALL KNOW dispite wanting to engage in a fantasy that porn is NEVER the genuine article... well, rarely anyway. Trick photography, and fake techniques to get the imagry they want are commonplace. With this in mind, I think all references to porn and urination should be removed from the article until a valid medial reference can be supplied. -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 06:05, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I dated a girl in high school and she too squirted out her nether regions. I just want to agree it was slightly sweet tasting and quite odd. it made a mess in a car. we always had to tote a towell around when we parked. atleast she had leather seats. It was quite alot of clear liquid right out the vagina especially when I fingered her I noticed that it made sex difficult cause it would wash all the lubercant off. well that is my testamony - thegerman

Not a myth

It's not a myth. I, myself, have experienced female ejaculation more than a few times. I know how it feels to urinate, I know how it feels to ejaculate. It is NOT the same feeling. In fact, it's not even from the same place. I'm pretty sure I've read that it is impossible to urinate during sex. Those who say they do urinate are experiencing female ejaculation and are ignorant as to how their vagina works. YourGirlfriend 06:47, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

making the article NPOV

I recently added this blurb to the porno section: "The validity of porn as research media is disputed based on the common belief that porn is an act, or exaggeration of real occurances. It is highly possible that mild urination is being used in this context to provide the illusion of a female ejaculation. this may be because a higher volume of liquid can be seen and photographed/taped by urination as opposed to genuine ejaculation." which I think is a good way to make that section clearly NPOV... before, it was trying to say that porn validly showed that ejaculation was urination... without the other details about porn. I'm mentioning it here to re-spark conversation on this topic as a whole. We now have three anonymous and two signatured wiki-user testimonials that f.ejaculation is NOT urination... but we need more, and we need to discuss. -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 19:41, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, we clearly need much more details about female ejaculation. And we need to discuss. And we need photos. Of NatsukiGirl. Because of the GPL licence. *cough* -- Paniq 23:08, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

LOL, nice try. For real though, I'm almost convinced that the reason this topic is still disputed is because of the social/respect gap between male and female. You would think men would parlay this into a desire to "prove" that not only can THEY ejaculate, but they can also make their girl ejaculate. ;) -- NatsukiGirl\^talk 23:11, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

NatsukiGirl - I agree with you. I was dismayed to find that those arguing about this are guys. I've done it, it's related to intense stimulation of the "g-spot", it doesn't happen to me any other way. It's not urine. It may well have some urea in it, I don't know. For me, it comes out in a much greater quantity than sweat, or the normal vaginal secretions. I can do it by myself or with a partner, pretty much on demand, if you will. Takes about 3 to 4 minutes (if I want it to). The reason there is no research is that western medicine and western society is too uptight about sex. We think sex is bad, dirty, unspeakable. We fetishize it. We need to get over it. Female ejaculation is real. trrish

There's a lot of different people on this planet. When not denied female ejaculation is said to be related to g-spot stimulation or at least vaginal stimulation. My experience is different. I always got it from my partners from clitoris stimulation. Ericd 02:47, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Been there (as a man), done that proving part (almost drowned once with her on top) . Yes i know what urine tastes like (dont ask why). Id be happy to show a team of scientists a thing or two and we'll settle this once and for all ..... sjheesh ...

somehow though , i know this for a fact but am concerned it will take a bit more time with a fresh batch (we said scientific) of women since all women do respond a bit different to the same stimuli , odd that i'm having trouble geting a group of women together so i can practice a bit before making bold statements as i can make at least soandso% of a group of women squirt ..

{im actually 98% serious in this post :D , i havent tried finding a group myself and its not odd i'll likely have trouble finding some volunteers myself :P ) | Bverveen 01:42, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Sources

Female ejaculation is not urine and I can see some people here still think it is. I'll get my books and find the scientific articles on that. Clearly this entry needs to be improved. Also, please, could you all use more recent work on the subject ? A 1981 case study is NOT acceptable to support a whole article.Bragador 21:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC) I found a "prime source" article published in 2001 at my university's library. I'm surprised it seems there is no proof that the ejaculate is not urine. I'll share it with you in the following days after my exams. You can email me if you want me to send it to you. Bragador 02:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

A MYTH?

I didn't have an ejaculating experience until about 2 years ago.I'd split up with my boyfriend of many years and was looking forward to single life,when he called me 2 months later and begged to have sex with me.It was so incredible i did not even notice the bed was soaked all the way through until i came to after multi orgasms.I must say i was stunned.Even though i had heard of the female ejaculation,the first time it happens,you just think:damn,i've just peed the bed!I was freaked,but he was over the moon.Apparently in the 2 months we were apart he had been studying karma sutra and tao methods and this was all a part of his plan.Alas this new discovery wasn't enough to keep us together.I went through various shags,but the sex was never as mind blowing,until i met my current boyf who i have endless love and lust for.I think i ejaculate pretty much every time we have sex now,unless we are just having a quickie and i'm not super aroused.I can definitely testify that the liquid comes from the vaginal wall and that it is most definitely NOT urine.It is a clear liquid that smells completely different to urine,and tastes slightly sweet.It can be a bit of a daunting experience when we go to bed at night and instead of going to sleep- get a bit horny and end up having sex -cause then the bed is wet and we gotta put towels down and go to sleep on them.My boyfriend had never had any woman ejaculate with him before,and he has had many,many partners,so this must be a rare thing,or perhaps none of them have ever felt like it was safe to let go.He says that it turns him on so much,and i must say i definitely experience a sort of a hightened state of pleasure.It is hard to explain.Anyway i decided to write in because i found it hillarious that there are people who doubt female ejaculation exists and say it is a weak bladder instead.I can hold pee for a long time and my pelvic muscles are very strong.I am definitely NOT leaking urine,in fact i couldn't make myself pee during sex anyway.I mean if there is women who know they ejaculate,why would you deny their experiences?For the men out there that don't beleve;well maybe you can start cutting out our clitorises next ,cause you don't think a woman should or can orgasm at all?Female ejaculation has been known and revered in old cultures,but in the west women's sexuality has been so opressed by unnatural attitudes that it is a wonder if a woman can even reach climax,and it is true that many of us still don't.Many of my girlfriends cannot come with their boyfriends at all but can through masturbation if they are alone and some have never had an orgasm at all.Women need to get to know their bodies before they can expect to orgasm,but many have been thought that it is dirty and wrong to touch themselves.If my ex boyfriend's attitude toward my first ejaculation had been disgust,i probably would've been scared of experiencing sex and letting go of myself which would in turn reduce my sex life to a series of uncomfortable and unplesurable experiences.Thank you to the women who have written in.I think this topic needs to be researched and explained and brought into the light.This is the 21 century after all and women make up half of the population-so why are these things not known?

Scientists think the ejaculation is due to a strong contraction of muscles which would make females ejaculate a liquid partially made of what constitute urine. If this hypothesis is true, then the liquid couldn't be classified as something other than a derivation of urine. More research will be done to understand what is happening. Bragador 22:57, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Cum/Come?

Hello. I think we can all agree that "cum" or "come" may refer to Orgasm or Semen, but is it common to apply those terms to female ejaculate? I find no reference to this in the article. Ewlyahoocom 03:54, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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Cum/Come/Coming etc is orgasm or sperm/semen/ejaculate dude, it quotes it in the Durex leaflet in condom packets if you need a quote. And i dont see how that has a gender boundry. I just love the way that so many people have something to say about any sexual element of wikipedia, maybe this phenomina should have a name, i think its probably related to the internet obsession with porn etc. I know from personal experience that the internet gives me knowledge at work and porn at home.

ps. my mate has told me on many occasions that the female orgasm exists and she's had enough sex to know it isn't having a slash (urinating). She loves it, so to all good enough to give or recieve it, well done.

McGraw 21/03/06

Personal Proof.

My girlfriend is multiple kind of girl and I can tell you there are definitely two kinds of orgasms. The more intense rare ones. During one particularly intense intercourse, she started screaming and I felt something warm hit my leg. I thought she has peed since there was so much, but after I had finished I noted the liquid. It was completely transparent and the consistency was much thicker than water, it was almost like male ejaculant that had been left out for more than 10 minutes on something warm (thinner). It was a large spray area on my right leg of about 5 inches in diameter. The bed sheet was soaked in a circular area of approximately 18 inches in diameter, they did not smell like urine.

On another occasion I thought she had done it again. She had very similar looking orgasm as the previous one, but under a small amount of scrutiny it was clear that it was only urine.

I don't know what this was about... I was hoping someone else knows... There was once a very milky thick looking fluid on our sheets afterwards. It seemed... gross. It was not from me... but it was definitely from sex. I am going to ignore that as a fluke, but