Talk:FLCL/Archive 7

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Items and concepts in FLCL

Active contributors to this article may be interested in commenting at the deletion discussion that I have started for Items and concepts in FLCL. Leebo ^T/C 18:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Fuji Rabbit or Vespa?

Haruko's vehicle is a Fuji Rabbit or a Vespa? She's refered as "The Vespa Woman" in the anime... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.40.35.83 (talk) 18:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I am not certain, but I know the specific model is discussed in the commentary track of the DVDs. It is modeled after a broken vespa owned by the director (as shown in the ending credits). -Verdatum (talk) 19:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Haruko rides a late 60's Vespa 180 ss, Aramaro rides a Fuji Rabbit. The 'P!' sticker on Haruko's Vespa refers to the Pillows, the j-rockers responsoble for the soundtrack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.252.214 (talk) 00:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC) Okay since people seem to agree that her's is a vespa i'll change the part that says her's is a rabbit. 71.65.34.160 (talk) 04:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

K, Confirmed, the liner notes repeatedly say it's a Vespa 180 SS (Super Sprint). -Verdatum (talk) 04:46, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Someone should add this translation notes?

Found here: http://www.synch-point.com/production/flcl/flcl-notes1.html Maybe what are you calling "Trivia" should be calling "Translation notes" and the rest should go with the characters section. I don't do it myself because I'm horrible with english. 200.45.167.54 05:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Mamimi's Camera

Hi everyone. I noticed that the article informs you as to what type of guitar is used by Atomsk, Haruhara Haruko, and Naota, etc., and also the vehicles that some of the characters drive. I hope this is not too minor of a detail, but I was wondering if it might be useful for someone to add what specific model of Olympus camera Mamimi uses, or to add that Mamimi apparently uses an Olympus camera. Thank you.-- One more saturday 22:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

GA Quick Fail

This GA nom has quick failed because 6 images on the article do not have appropriate fair use rationales. Thus, it meets the quick fail criteria. When you fix these problems, please resubmit it. - G 1 ggy ^Talk/_Contribs 22:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Space Pirate

I've taken the liberty of removing the 'space pirate' characterization of Haruko, as I'm unaware of any reason to support that statement, and, indeed, one notes that WP's entry for her characterizes her as I've amended the entry. TealCyfre0 20:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Omission of Manga?

The article needs at least to mention that there is a manga for FLCL. What are the differences and similarities between the manga and anime?

Timothy Perper 14:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

how is FLCL seinen

topic — Preceding unsigned comment added by IguanarayD: (talk • contribs) 22:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

The manga was published in Magazine Z.--Nohansen 17:08, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

ep2 Haibane Renmei references

? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.122.254.139 (talk) 05:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Metaphors

Why don't you get into the metaphorical content of Flcl? FLCL is an amazing work of symbolic Animation and revolutionary in the way it's directed. It's episodic, but it's not entirely linear and borders on experimental in sequence.

Medical Mechanica smoothing out the wrinkles in our brains=Cultural homogenization/conformity/uniformity and industrialization that flattens the beauty of native life/the destruction of the individual and individuality/ the imposition of sameness

What is the significance of the many hands? They are a prevalent icon. Guitars? What do they symbolise? These are new symbols being used with deep significance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watches-Crows (talk • contribs)

Read WP:OR.--SeizureDog 17:57, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

An essay or a source should be invented, if not found, because there is a need to adress the matter. It's creating a gaping hole in the article. The article is more about what surrounds flcl than what it is. I am not suggesting we violate the tennet. I am suggesting that the demand for a discourse be answered by an authority, for the sake of the substance, accessibility and memorability that the show warrants.

Watches-Crows Watches-Crows (talk

We don't invent sources on Wikipedia. If a source for some bit of interpretation can't be found, then it's unsourced, and not fit for inclusion. And keep in mind that blogs, forums, other wikis, and fan sites are almost never reliable sources and therefore cannot be used. — Dino guy 1000 20:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Watches-Crows I'm just saying that the matters that I am addressing are there. It is only that they cannot be addressed for a lack of a source. Keep an open mind. I would like to suggest that someone knowledgeable verify if there is or isn't a published source. Other than that, it's out of the scope of wikipedia. I hope Wikipedia's limitations do not keep it from being as informative as it should be, or that it needs to be to host meaningful articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.175.153.224 (talk) 16:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Watches Crows Again

Hmm. Thoughts: Do the limitations of the Wikipedia standards limit us from creating a faithful representation of the subject, FLCL? Would it then be best to not have one? ... I don't really think so. Perhaps the roll of this encyclopedia is to mention only concretes, but as a reader I would not be able to pick up what makes the show good, or that differentiates it from other anime from here. I am entertaining the idea that it risks being misleading, therefore. If it were authentically a problem, you could put a note: Warning, Article has insufficient resources published, in regards to content. Some Encyclopedias get into content and philosophy, but that's more CLC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watches-Crows (talk • contribs) 21:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

If the show is good, then there should exist reviews that explain why it is good. If it is a particularly notable work of fiction, this notability will be established by notable published writers writing interpretations of things like the use of imagry in the work. You'll see this for plenty of works, such as the works of James Joyce, or films like The Seventh Seal which has a DVD commentary track featuring notable film historian Peter Cowie explaining the importance and signifigance of the imagry through the entire movie. Should something like this exist for FLCL? I, for one, would love to see it! Does it exist? I haven't found it. Go search for one, and don't forget to look for Japanese texts. -Verdatum (talk) 18:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Haruko's Description

I hate to nitpick, but how can Haruko be Mabase's newest resident, if Canti is an even newer resident? I think that should be reworded. -Verdatum (talk) 15:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

You’re free to change it if you see fit. I guess the distinction would be in considering a machine to be a legal resident. But that’s way over-thinking it, so just reword it somehow if you’d like :) Leebo ^T/C 15:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Heh, I should've mentioned I couldn't think of a better alternative opening line, else I would've just fixed it. If someone wants to fix it, good. Else I'll just think about it. -Verdatum (talk) 16:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Merging of episodes into a list

This has been raised on the WP Anime talk page. BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 06:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Ecchi

I know im gonna regret bringing this up but FLCL is an Ecchi! Because an Ecchi has Sexually Erotic Events! Like upskirt, Terms, nudity, and Id say FLCL fits in there! So I demand an explanation on why I dont see Ecchi as a genre!--LoliMedia (talk) 13:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

No it's not. The series has a lot of sexual references, sure, but they're not easy to catch. You have to look at the intent of the creators and the director in including such elements. Were they trying to arouse or titillate? Are the characters presented in an obviously sexual way? A similar discussion came up on the Ranma ½ talk page largely because of the numerous instances of nudity that crop up in the series. This is like saying that just because a movie has a sex scene in it that that makes it a porno. BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 17:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

(-_-)Since when have Director and Producers desided on the Genre? Isnt genre typically discribed by the Critics and Viewers? You know what forget it! If the creator wasnt making a Homerun Swing towards Ecchi then...there is so much Sex Scenes in that [[Anime I cant even count it...well I wont! Even the Name "FOOLY COOLY" screams out, "Hello?! Over here! Im an Ecchi! How many Upskirts, Near Sex Scenes, and Sexual Terms do I need to use?!" That Anime has more Sex Related S*&% in it then a High School Sex Ed. Class! If you can...how do you even know he or She wasnt Swing for an Ecchi? There's more Sexual Inndondo used then The Todd used in the Entire TV Series of Scrubs! I think I've said enought! I dont wanna start Wiki War I! So you win then! Im here to help not to hurt! Happy Editing! =^_^= --LoliMedia (talk) 18:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I think you're trying to get this anime classified as an ecchi. This isn't the same thing as Ikkitousen, where the viewer can immediately grasp that the characters and situations are presented in such a way as to titillate the audience. There you have female fighters with large breasts and in short skirts running around. The FLCL characters are not sexualized in a similar way. Like I said, a lot of the sexual references in FLCL are hard to catch because they are subtle or are shown very quickly. The audience will likely not immediately grasp them unless they go back and read an analysis that they're even present, like I had to do. I had to think why this series might be classified as ecchi. If that has to happen, then the series clearly is not. BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 19:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

There is a simple solution to this. LoliMedia, if you can find a reputable source that declares FLCL is an ecchi anime, then we can potentially add this to the article. If not, then you are synthesizing information from the definition of ecchi and the content of FLCL. That is a classic form of Original Research, which does not belong on Wikipedia. (Also, you may want to take a look at your keyboard. Someone seems to have flipped your period (.) and exclaimation mark (!) keys.) -Verdatum (talk) 20:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

LoliMedia's argument reminds me of Lolicon-r.us's comments in FLCL's peer review. Neither had any evidence of FLCL's "ecchiness" but both are convinced it is ecchi.--Nohansen (talk) 20:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Um, I hate to say this, but FLCL is actually classified as an Ecchi on other websites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.107.135.102 (talk) 22:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I know of no reliable website that does this. Not even Anime News Network, which tends to go overboard with genres, (ANN has Mushi-Shi as "Adventure, Drama, Fantasy, Horror, Mystery, Psychological, Supernatural") classifies FLCL as ecchi. If you know of any (reliable websites) that do, please provide the link.--Nohansen (talk) 21:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I also feel that FLCL is NOT an ecchi anime by any means. It just has a few sexual scenes in it, no more then any other tv/anime show. - Prede (talk) 04:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, there shouldn't be a reason this should be considered Ecchi. The show is meant to be funny, not sexual. I don't sit and watch this show to get off. I watch it to get laughs, and laugh I do, very much. So I definitely feel this is NOT an Ecchi. Leave it classified as it is, like the guy said in the first post, just because they show nudity in a movie, doesn't mean it's a porno.

Music of FLCL

I propose Addict (soundtrack), King of Pirates and FLCL No. 3 be merged into a Music of FLCL article.--Nohansen (talk) 17:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

That sounds like a reasonable idea to me. None of the album articles are much more than a track listing, and since they are a bit old at this point, I doubt they will signifigantly expand any time soon, and most content would be common amongst them. -Verdatum (talk) 17:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Music of FLCL. Done.--Nohansen (talk) 19:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

The Bass

According to the article, it's a Rickenbacker 4001. I think it's a 4003, because I've never seen the "skunk stripe" that the 4001 has down the back of the neck. Did I completely miss it, or is it, in fact, a 4003? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.89.251.220 (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't ultimately matter what you think it is, since that would qualify as original research. It has to be listed according to whatever source was used; therefore, if it's wrong here, that means that the source in question also has it wrong. — Dino guy 1000 18:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Pehaps you should fidn a new scource and compare them both. If the new one says it is a 4003 then the old scource was incorrect. - Prede (talk) 04:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as how the original declaration of 4001 is unsourced, there's no way to compare sources. Also, Her bass is a left-handed, blue 4003 http://www.rickenbacker.com/model.asp?model=4003 . It might be deemed as original research, but looking at the official picture from the wiki article, and this one from rickenbacker.com, really shows the similarity. I'm going to change the wikipedia entry to 4003 while I look for some official word on the bass that I can cite. -FredMcElk (I'll create an account one of these days) 69.251.129.226 (talk) 03:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The link you have provided does not work. Try and find a source that states what guitar she uses. Perhaps some website states it, or it states so in the anime (can't remember) or manga (been awhile sense I read it ) - Prede (talk) 01:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

If no reliable source can be found within a week's time that states unambiguously what model of guitar is used by Haruka, Naota, etc., I'm going to go ahead and remove those specific statements. If this happens, remember that they can always be added at a later time should a source be found. — Dino guy 1000 20:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable to me. I seem to recall the bass being discussed in the commentary track for the american release, but I'm personally too lazy to review it, I don't think it sufficiently effects the article one way or another if it specifies the model of the bass or not.-Verdatum (talk) 21:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, I finally bothered to check my source. It is confirmed explicitly in the liner notes of the Ultimate edition DVD, quote: "Haruko's Rickenboker is a vintage 4001 model with special modifications. The 4001 has been long discontinued, but the current 4003 model is almost exactly like it."

Freudian symbolism

I feel that fooly cooly is about Melta's (Naota's) coming of age, i.e. beginning to explore his sexuality. Most of the story is evidently Freudian symbolism for sex. Notice the emphasis on his learning to "swing the bat". And the competition with and murder of his father is part of the Oedipus complex. JRSpriggs (talk) 08:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

The only problem with that is it constitutes original research, and so is unusable here unless you can provide a verifiable source for it. — Dino guy 1000 18:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I figured it was an Japanese version of Tank Girl, itself a comic with a vaguely outlined anarchist theology. The characters sync up one for one, even as far as Tank Girl having a servile TV headed robot (ripped off more blatantly in Dead Leaves then FLCL) The only original elements appear to be Naota, (probably the writer Yoji Enokido himself) giant robots and aliens.

Of course this is all just original research and it may be pure coincidence that someone made a wildly popular comic strip called “Tank Girl” that features a young vaguely sadistic 20 something anarchist enthused sexpot who has a unspecifically advanced vehicle, a TV headed friend and a musical-pop culture backdrop and that 5 years later someone in Japan made the exact same thing.

Id go further and say that its called “FLCL” because calling it “Vespa Woman” wouldn’t be a protective enough buffer to separate the Japanese product from the source material it was made from. Anyways Tank Girl IS mentioned somewhere in the cultural references area, rather then an inspiration area and Id certainly recommend it for anyone who enjoyed FLCL. The movie however, you can skip, it was rather horrid. Whatever the case is your speculation and mine aren't exclusive, id wager that were both right. Good day Bloody Sacha (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Characters

So i noticed that the character area is a little small, it only mentions what? 4, 5 characters? there are planty of major characters that should be mentioned. not that two guys that chill with naota and ninamori, but Kamon or the eye brows dude. just sayin.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.12.52 (talk • contribs)

I believe they are talked about in detail under List of FLCL characters- Prede (talk) 04:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Weird Wording in First Part

"The industrail town houses and medical mechanica..." What is this trying to say? This is very oddly confusingly worded/written. Are you trying to say "The industrial town's houses and the Medical Mechanica building are the reason for Haruhara Haruko's visit to the usually quiet suburb." meaning the houses in the town and med. mec. building is why she visisted? Or are you trying to say "The industrial towns houses the Medical Mechanica building. It is this bulding that made Haruhara Haruko visit this usually quiet suburb." Or somethign else? I made it the first one right now but if that is wrong please fix it. All I know is what it was before I fixed it made no sense. Whatever is trying to be said should be written more clearly. -Prede (talk) 04:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Bildungsroman

I can appreciate the edits to the genre. It is true, all definitions I can find for the term Bildungsroman specify that it is a type of novel. Still, the intent of the genre applies. (One possible argument could be that the script is effectively a novella, but I do not press this issue). FLCL is in essense a coming-of-age story, and I frequently see it described as such...Anyway, I'm not really sure what I wanna see. I had no objection to Bildungsroman being stretched to include other storytelling mediums. One alternative would be to add "coming of age" to the genre list. If it were to wikilink to something, it probably should be Bildungsroman though, as the Coming of age article focuses on social aspects, not artistic/literary aspects. Another alternative is to just not be so uptight about the genre field, and simply describe it as a coming of age story in the main article (with reference, naturally). This is probably the easiest solution, I can never get terribly passionate about edit disagreements on fiction articles. I'd like to read other people's input though. -Verdatum (talk) 16:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd say leave it as "Bildungsroman " or write it as "Coming of Age story" and link it to Bildungsroman - Prede (talk) 21:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Bunny suit

well i was wondering in epsiode 5 when haruko was flying in why was she whering a bunny suit? do they really have those in real life? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KiravsL7 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I fail to see what this has to do with the content of this article. I doubt a source could be found explaining the bunny suit... -Verdatum (talk) 14:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I guess so but it still puzzles me and why did she where it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KiravsL7 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The bunny suit is a reference to the Daicon IV animation created by Gainax staffers before they established the Gainax studio. It is not related (as far as I know) to the Playboy Bunnies.--Nohansen (talk) 00:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, that bunny suit. Yes, at that point in the action, the character actually says "Daicon V!" (both in english and japanese if I recall). It's a pretty blatent allusion. -Verdatum (talk) 17:32, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Could "Daicon Five!" also be a joke on "Defcon 5" -- as in, for instance, WarGames?) -- jalp, a passing fan . . . and a definitely well-intentioned (and usually pretty well-informed) kibitzer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.172.14.201 (talk) 04:08, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Meccanica vs. Mechanica

There've been people changing back and forth between these for a while now, but which one is correct? And a precursory note to all the fanboys out there, fandubs/fansubs are not valid sources for this type of thing. — Dino guy 1000 20:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Still bouncing back and forth I see. Personally, I couldn't care less. In my opinion, we should just pick one and stick with it barring a strong reference to the contrary. -Verdatum (talk) 17:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm with you there, I just want it settled. — Dino guy 1000 18:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

FLlctonic KLlple Waver Syndrome

Is this spelled even remotely right? I believe the subtitles show it as FLictonic KLipple; but I was unsure as to whether or not this was a mis-sub. Dustin Howett (talk) 04:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

It sounds like it could be true - that is, if you pronounce it with FL and KL, it sounds like FLCL. But that is, I just noticed that the two l's after FL and KL seem like they should be i's. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

List of FLCL episodes

This article is kind of short, and if List of FLCL episodes were merged, it'd add a lot more. Maybe even characters if necessary, but that's only if it's still a bit too short. - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:57, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. That list (of episodes) shouldn't even exist: this article is too short and the series is only six episodes long.--Nohansen (talk) 05:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

This has been mentioned before (I think on the project talk page), and the discussion had the same conclusion, but nothing ever came of it. I also agree, merge away. — Dino guy 1000 16:12, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, since it appears to be a Featured List, someone might oppose. - A Link to the Past (talk) 16:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Not that I'm trying to create a concensus, but I'm doubting the project would be opposed to it. It probably wouldn't hurt to ask about it, though. — Dino guy 1000 16:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

There is consensus at FLC (see the "Length" section) for lists with less than 10 items so long as the individual items are long enough. For instance, List of Macedonian submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film would not be suitable, as the individual items are not large, but this episode list has a bulky summary (considering that the OVAs are longer than regular episodes) for each episode and a substantial lead compared to the submission list. And yes, it needs a FLRC to be demoted. It was a community action that got it featured. It requires more than local consensus here to override that. sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 01:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

The question is "does it need to exist". This article is, in fact, small, and only by merging will we get a very featurable article. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

The notion that FLCL can only be featured by merging the episode list is frankly bullshit. If the article can be featured, it can be featured. It does not need the episode list to be merged. And why you would want to merge a featured list is completely beyond me. sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

The same reason why Torchic, Bulbasaur, etc. were merged. Being featured means "it's good", not that "it needs to be an article." FLCL is substantially small. In all intents and purposes, the list has been split from this article in the first place, but for no good reason. It may be good as a list, but it hurts the main article. The article isn't strong enough to have the list of episodes split up from this article. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate the fact that you, Sephiroth, have (almost single-handedly) promoted tons of anime FLs, but I honestly don't think this list is necessary. Again: this article is too short and the series is only six episodes long. When you take out the lead, the list of FLCL episodes is nothing more than a blow-by-blow account of the OVA's plot (something that is discouraged in most WP:ANIME articles). The well-written prose and sources found in the list's lead should be here, fleshing out the "Music" section and drafting the beginnings of a "Distribution" section.--Nohansen (talk) 04:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Though I must admit, Link was a "bit" (less than 24 hours of discussion? really?) too hasty in redirecting the list. Also, a cleaner merger of the list's contents would've been nice.--Nohansen (talk) 04:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

It's a reversible edit, so it's not a problem. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I've been aware for some time (possibly more than a year, at the very least since the last time AS aired FLCL) that the episode summaries are in need of rewriting/cleanup, but never got around to doing it. I'd rather do the cleanup immediately after watching the series, so everything is fresh in my mind. Unfortunately, though, I suffer under the delusion of being unable to (re)write good plot summaries, despite having done so with the Elfen Lied OVA episode and volume 1 of the Case Closed manga. — Dino guy 1000 19:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Haruko's "bass guitar", sourced to Adult Swim wiki

I have serious reservations about sourcing *anything* on Wikipedia to another wiki, since they are editable by anyone by default. I looked around the AS wiki and couldn't find any way to edit it myself, even after logging in, but that does little to alleviate my concerns. If anyone wants, though, I can ask about whether it's a reliable source. Until then, stop adding the "bass guitar" information back in, unless you have an undisputedly reliable source that mentions it. Also, changing "drawn by the industrial town houses and the Medical Mechanica building" to "drawn by the mysterious Medical Mechanica building" constitutes personal interpretation (actually, the whole statement sounds OR-ey to me, now that I really look at it), and the change should not be done again. — Dino guy 1000 19:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Just because it is a wiki doesn't mean it is editable. xwiki in particular is well suited at restricted editing priviliges. I likewise couldn't see any way to edit this wiki. Still, I don't consider this a reliable source. Just because the network has in the past had license to air the show, doesn't mean they're honor-bound to create accurate fan-content. I do believe it's a Rickenbocker, and I do believe a reliable source exists to that effect, but until a source is uncovered, it doesn't need to be mentioned in the article. -Verdatum (talk) 19:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

BTW, before an angry fan comes in here with accusations that I don't want this mentioned on the article, let me say that I am not against its inclusion, but rather against its unsourced inclusion. I've stated previously that if the information can be properly sourced, it can be added back in, and I'm restating it now. — Dino guy 1000 19:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

It's been a while since I've seen FLCL and I don't remember if the type or model of Haruka's guitar is ever mentioned (and to be honest, I tend to forget such trivialities). But if you go to the Official website, you'll find this: "An older girl by the name of Haruko appears on her Vespa and smashes [Naota] over the head with a bass guitar".--Nohansen (talk) 02:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

No one argues that. The issue is that some editors have stated that it's a Rickenbocker bass (or possibly other specific models), but the only evidence provided so far is that it really looks like one, which ain't good enough for WP. -Verdatum (talk) 17:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Argued, no. Removed, yes. I suppose technically a source wouldn't be necessary to state that her guitar is a bass guitar, but it definitely wouldn't hurt (and I'm adding it right now, with the source anyways). On a related note, the official website spells the name of the plant "Medical Mechanica", so that finally answers that question. — Dino guy 1000 19:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I got a better source, so it's settled. See "The Bass" section above for the exactly quote. -Verdatum (talk) 04:36, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

What is N.O.?

This is mentioned in this article, and many times in List of FLCL characters but the concept is never explained and the article never says what the acronym stands for. Conical Johnson (talk) 04:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

This was explained in a (now deleted/merged, not sure which) FLCL technology/concepts article, but the information never got merged anywhere. I agree that the acronym needs some explanation, but I haven't seen the series in too long to remember any details besides that it's a portal. — Dino guy 1000 20:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

(I was wondering this for years). The acronym is never explained in the dialogue. If I recall correctly, NO is in reference to Nitric oxide, which is an important signaling molecule in the body. I vaguely seem to recall this being explained better in GunbusterDiebuster, which is more or less in the same fictional universe as FLCL; however I'm not certain about that. Another place it may be explained is in the DVD commentary track; again it's all very hazy to me. If a decent source can be identified, I think a sentence or two about this definately belongs in the article. -Verdatum (talk) 18:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't have the DVD (although I would really, really like to get it), so I can't help at all there. Wait, FLCL isn't alone in its universe (LOL)? How do the two series relate to each other, and are there any sources for it? What about the series Diebuster (linked to from Gunbuster#See also)? BTW, Adult Swim is reairing FLCL on Sunday mornings now... they aired episode 2 yesterday morning, I've been watching. ^_^ — Dino guy 1000 20:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

My mistake, I meant to say Diebuster. It was a project Gainax did shortly after FLCL, involving a lot of the same production staff. It's a bit confusing, Gunbuster and FLCL are unrelated, FLCL and Diebuster are related, and Diebuster is the sequel series to Gunbuster. -Verdatum (talk) 16:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay... so it's basically a Gunbuster universe and a FLCL universe that intersect with Diebuster, but otherwise have nothing to do with each other? Interesting... — Dino guy 1000 22:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Content vs. Subject-Matter

The symbolic nature of the show should be adressed, which differentiates it from the general formula. The climax, for example, is a massive metaphor. This is important to the casual reader perusing and to the familiar one making a study. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.175.153.224 (talk) 12:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

FLCL is a very symbolic, metaphoric series, and some stuff on the symbolism would be awesome, but it's vitally imperative that sources be provided for any such interpretation. — Dino guy 1000 20:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)