Talk:Exodus (Battlestar Galactica)

Removing awards section

The fact that someone submitted an episode for consideration isn't notable enough for a section like this. I'm deleting it.

Synopsis wrong

As I understand it, the issues discussed are from the entire season, not just the next episode. Instead of a "next week on Galactica" they ran a "this season on Galatica," no? I've added the TvGuide synopsis instead.

--Correct; the preview after 3x02 Precipice was Season-specific.

Wrote up the episode

I forgot to log in... oh and I'm still not sure how to use this talk thing... how to i make those little comments appear by my name in history?

when you edit a page, it will have a box called Edit Summary, where you can put the comments. its right above the save page button.-Xornok 20:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Picture

Someone has to change the picture for this episode. The preview from which this was taken included scenes from the whole season and not necessarily events of the episode proper.

Levelistchampion 06:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. We need an Exodus pic. The current pic is not from Exodus, and the current text doesn't even make any sense.

Waiting till friday (-: thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 21:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Two pages

This article needs to be split into two pages, each episode needs its own dedicated page. --Basique 23:25, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Why would it? Two part episode, same title, nice page, cant see the benefit of spliting it. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 23:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Starboard Launch Bay

The trivia section erroneously claims that the starboard launch bay is used in this episode. Very close examination of the CGI shot only shows the top of a launch bay and part of the ribbed hull. It is impossible to tell if it is the starboard or port launch bay in use. However, the fact that Tyrol sends civilians returning to Galactica to the starboard bay as a temporary refuge heavily indicates that the starboard launch bay remains inoperative. However, it is possible that the starboard launch bay (underneath the actual hanger deck itself) is operational whilst the deck is now serving as a refugee shelter. Furthermore, the episode Collaborators sees a launch bay used as an interrogation and execution chamber. It is possible that this is one of the starboard bays, since the port bays would be full of people and machinery and the bay in this episode appears unused. Given the fact that Galactica is now holding all of Pegasus' vipers and raptors as well as her own, it seems unlikely that they can continue using just the one hanger deck efficiently.--Werthead 21:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

The "Adama manoeuvre"

This is a neologism with no credible sources. I'd strongly advocate its removal. Chris Cunningham 09:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I've rollbacked the edit again, fanism has no place on Wikipedia. I concur with your above statement as well. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 09:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Personally I've encountered the expression several times across message boards (note: I'm not the one who originally added the information). Isn't it the very definition of trivia? --Energman 14:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

and? Forums are not citable and also are not good enough for a cite for this article, furthering it is a fannish term. Provide a reliable source and get a consensus to add it.. the addition of it is disputed (by two people) and hence you will require a consensus for its addition. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay then: http://www.tv.com/battlestar-galactica-2003/show/23557/reviews.html?review_id=281687 http://charlieballard.typepad.com/buzz_the_bridge/2006/10/the_adama_maneu.html http://www.mediavillage.com/jmentr/2006/10/23/Battlestar-10-23-06/ 3 non-forum sources from editors of online magazines. Google is full of them and even more of people calling them in the forums. Think about it this way: someone reads a forum and someone mentions "The Adama maneuver" but that person doesn't know what it is. A quick search on wikipedia will get him to this episode. Seems to me reason enough to include two lines of text about it in the Trivia section of an encyclopedia. --Energman 14:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

TV.com is not verifiable as it is user submitted, the 2nd is some non-notable blog, the 3rd is another blog by "unnamed (and likely non-notable at best..)" - Trivia sections are bad enough at present (WP:AVTRIV). thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Proof enough for me; it'd be nice to have something external to the show linked into a BSG article for once. If you feel like rewriting the inclusion in a more objective style I'd support its inclusion. Chris Cunningham 14:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I called it the "Adama Drop" myself - however the reference to the Picard Maneuver is purely fan speculation. Just because a bunch of fans have labeled it the "Adama Maneuver" and it reminds them of the "Picard Maneuver" doesn't mean it's relevant enough to be mentioned here. Cyberia23 22:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

If the term "Adama Maneuver" does become part of Battlestar Galatica fandom lore, how long should we wait until adding it to the article as Trivia? I mean, how is it decided whether it's relevant to a Wiki article or not? Is anything controversial always scrapped? (Note also that the term should use the American English spelling, since it's an American TV show.) — Loadmaster 16:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I spell everything the American way however Wikipedia isn't supposed to belong to any one country. But, for the sake of argument the new BSG is filmed in Canada/England and both countries spell the British way - In fact, most of the actors are British and the miniseries premiered first on British television before airing on SciFi. What I don't unserstand is why people use the stupid "& mdash ;" tag when you have a perfectly good M-dash — button under INSERT below. Anyway, I don't see why it should be mentioned because I really don't see how Adama's atmospheric drop to launch Vipers and Picard's using warp to make two Stargazers to fool the Ferengi are remotely the same. Besides, it's all a matter of personal opinion and personal opinions violate Neutral Point of View rules. Cyberia23 05:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Re the spelling: I might have to spell it the US way in the article itself, but I certainly don't have to lower mysefl to that level for talk ;) Chris Cunningham 13:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

"Lower yourself"? - Sorry if Americans are idiots for deleting unpronounced letters. Cyberia23 21:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

This doesn't answer the question: If enough fans really do call it the "Adama Maneuver" (regardless of how you spell it), should it be mentioned under Trivia? — Loadmaster 16:28, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I'm happy. Cyberia23 21:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

No — Wikipedia isn't fan-o-pedia; if you wish to add something like that to a Wiki then BattlestarWiki is probably your best option. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:30, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

So the distinction is that the "Picard Maneuver" was actually mentioned in the show so it deserves mention in an article, while the "Adama maneuver" is only a fan-created term and does not belong in an article. That's reasonable. — Loadmaster 18:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

So I agree that the "Adama Maneuver" has been created by fans and such and is NOT canon. However, if enough other sources refer to it, why not add a line to the Trivia section to the effect of "Admiral Adama's tactic of having the Battlestar Galactica use its FTL drive to jump into the atmosphere of the planet to launch its vipers under cover has quickly become called by many fans the 'Adama Maneuver', in obvious reference to the Picard Maneuver from Star Trek." --Kraw Night 02:35, 1 December 2006 (UTC) ...especially since many terms created by online internet discussions, such as "Caprica Six", have come to be standard names used within the show.

Her name is just "Caprica" - at least that's what Three calls her. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)