Talk:Ernst Haas

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Untitled[edit]

Quotation section has been deleted because citations are not listed. BSG2420 (talk) 16:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works should move[edit]

The list of works (books, solo, and group exhibitions) is far too long for the page. It should be set aside on its own page. IstvanWolf (talk) 18:07, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, these lists aren't too long. However, the exhibitions need to be sourced. Sourcing so many is a tedious job, but it can be done (see the equivalent lists in David Goldblatt, which otherwise is a feeble article) and must be done. -- Hoary (talk) 02:42, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I'm having second thoughts about books; see below. -- Hoary (talk) 03:29, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Portrait Subjects[edit]

I don't see how a list of notables somebody photographed would be encyclopedic, even if each entry in the list were sourced. (Such people are often photographed, often by notable photographers. The question is instead: What about the photographs? Are they commented on?) This article had a long list, completely unsourced. The people within it were genuinely notable, unlike many superficially similar lists which turn out to be of mere celebs. But as it was unencyclopedic and unsourced, I removed it in this edit. -- Hoary (talk) 02:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Books[edit]

The article has a huge list of books. Books by or entirely devoted to Haas should certainly be listed. As for other books -- "Olympus Optical Co. One Moment Of The World, Photovision, vol 2. Tokyo: Olympus, 1984", etc etc -- I wonder. If a book has a substantial chunk devoted to EH, fine, but if he is merely one of dozens of photographers, I think mention of the book can be skipped. Unless of course the publication was significant to EH, the readers of the time, or readers today, whereupon this significance can be pointed out. -- Hoary (talk) 03:29, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Commissioning, conflict of interest, independent sourcing[edit]

In this edit, User:Wikistag (contributions) writes of File:Ernst Haas, Austrian photographer, early portrait, Munich.jpg:

This image was furnished by the Ernst Haas Estate to be displayed in the wiki article on Ernst Haas, commissioned by the Ernst Haas Estate.

So this article was "commissioned". (Incidentally, we can see an earlier stage of its gestation here.)

The article is bristling with unsourced assertions. I find the assertions credible, and I'd imagine that the Haas estate acted with honorable intentions. But we do seem to have an article that (A) was written with a potential conflict of interest and (B) is grievously undersourced. It should probably have a "COI" template added to its top. I hope that the Haas estate (or other people) will rapidly add references for a high percentage of the claimed accomplishments. The article has already been stripped of language that might seem a little promotional, and if most (ideally all) of the claimed accomplishments are sourced, we can forget about how the article came to be written. -- Hoary (talk) 11:11, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds plausible, I second adding COI. It doesn't alternatively mean that the _photograph_ was "commissioned by the Ernst Haas Estate", I checked too. Wikistag hasn't worked on any other WP articles; we should let them know on their Talk page. Lopifalko (talk) 11:25, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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