Talk:Edward Proger

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Did you know... that nonagenarian Edward Proger (pictured) died of cutting teeth?

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Death plausible?[edit]

Is teething in a 90+ year old plausible? — RockMFR 02:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Young adults can definitely have problems if wisdom teeth become impacted without the benefit of dental attention: inflammation and infection to the point of severe illness. I'm not a dentist, so I don't know if it's possible for teeth to remain embedded in the jaw for so long into one's life. However, I speculate that this account of Proger's death is 1. an error and should have named someone else, 2. the cause of death is an error or gross exaggeration, or 3. the author had something else in mind and didn't mean that the man was literally cutting teeth: maybe his teeth were infected and required surgical intervention to open abcesses from which he never recovered? If only we could read minds! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordreader (talk • contribs) 04:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to permanent teeth, "In rare occurrences, a third set of teeth is possible. It's been reported to happen to very elderly humans and in even more rare cases of younger people who have had their permanent teeth removed." Now, I'm not sure of the degree of confidence in this statement, which is not sourced in its parent article - a while back I looked up what I could find on this, and although there are many such anecdotal cases, there's a distinct lack of reputable sources willing to go out on a limb and say this is definitely true. It's sort of in the flying saucers/rocks falling out of the sky class of anecdote. But I think I believe this one. Wnt (talk) 05:33, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When I was checking the likelihood of this the other day I found this reference 'Sometimes, likewise, a third set of teeth appears, about the age of sixty or seventy' in the 1851 version of Encyclopedia Americana. JMiall ₰ 17:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This paper from 1979 claims that early Anglo-Saxons showed continuous tooth eruption and gives some references that might offer more information - 'The notion of continuous human tooth eruption has had its advocates (e.g. Sicher 1949, Begg 1954, Sarnas 1957, Murphy 1959) and opponents (e.g. Williams 1949, Cran 1957, Tallgren 1957), but few workers appear to have supported their opinions by detailed measurement (Begg 1954, Murphy 1959).'

The advocating references in full are:

Sicher H (1949) Oral Anatomy. Mosby, St Louis; p 273
Begg P R (1954) American Journal of Orthodontics 40, 298, 373
Sarnas K V (1957) Acta odontologica Scandinavica 15, 213
Murphy T R (1959) Australian Dental Journal 4, 312 JMiall ₰ 18:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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