Talk:Edward Evans, 1st Baron Mountevans

Family

Teddy Evans may or may not have married, and had children. I really need to know this for an essay in school. "If anyone could edit this post to say what happens" to Teddy Evans, "I would be extremely grateful". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.232.41.20 (talk) 20:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Scurvy

The comment that since the remainder of the polar party died, suffering from scurvy may have saved Evans life is speculative and factually unsupported. Lt Evans had returned with the last supporting party before he began to suffer from Scurvy. It was not the reason that he hadn't been selected to carry on to the pole itself. Evans Lashley and Crean began their return jouney on 4th January 1912. Had Evans been so unfit would it be likely that Scott would decide to take an extra man to the pole and leave Lashley and Crean, enlisted men, to make the journey home with only a sick officer to navigate?

Evans makes the first mention of his discomfort "On 30th January Lashley and I had been fourteen weeks out..... By this time I had made the unpleasant discovery I was suffering from Scurvy. It came on with a stiffening of the knee joints, then I could not straighten my legs, and finally they were horrible to behold, swollen bruised and green.

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86.165.246.193 (talk) 09:22, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Suggestions of incompetence or even sabotage

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/polar-record/article/why-didnt-they-ask-evans/224A49CABBF71E72B99C8C9C3B7236A4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:14BA:8300:0:0:0:0:4F49 (talk) 18:42, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

This makes interesting reading but ignores some very simple logistical points. Evans would have returned far too late to give any instructions to send dogs to the bottom of the Beardmore glacier, or send tobacco and chocolate to Oates. Atkinson had already set out to meet Scott 6 days before Crean reached Hut Point. He was only still there because he couldn't travel due to bad weather. Atkinson and Meares were the last people that Scott spoke to who could have any control over the supply chain.

Using newspaper reports 40 years after the events as a primarary source with no cross reference to the first hand accounts that have been published makes for a poor project. The notion that Evans wouldn't eat seal meat is not supported by his own account. Evans mentions "seal fry" many times, perhaps more than any other food but pemmican and does not express a distaste for it.

(April 13th 1911) I shall never forget the breakfast that Clissold prepared for us at 10.30 that morning. It was delicious - Hot rolls, heaps of butter, milk, sugar, jam, a fine plate of tomato soup, and fried seal cooked superbly.

(June 21st 1911) [Menu for midwinter's day] "this much looked forward to meal" Consomme seal, Roast Beef and Yorshire pudding.

(Oct 26th 1911) Meares and Bowers cooked a fine seal fry for us all and we spent a happy evening at Hut Point.

(Oct 29th 1911) Meares made me laugh, by saying, as if I was calling on him at his English home, "Stay and have lunch, won't you, Teddy? Of course I did, but as I was wanted by the motor party, it was a somewhat hurried meal of fried seal and bacon. We were not allowed to eat bacon on account of scurvey precaution, but it was my birthday and nobody let me forget it. Feeling much better ... I swung out onto the barrier...

(Nov 21st 1911) Atkinson's tent gave us some biscuit, cheese and seal liver, so that day we lived high.

The British explorers suffered from scurvey at a higher rate because hhey tended to prefer adding pony meat to their pemmican rations and boiling into a stew they called Hoosh. Prolonged cooking in this way breaks down the vitatim C in meat. Amundsen had learned from the Inuit (without understanding why) that lightly fried meat prevented scurvey. Casual remarks reported in newspapers 40 years after the fact do not make a reliable source 86.165.245.199 (talk) 08:12, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

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