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A list of works by Edgar Allan Poe.

Browsing through the wikipedia article for Edgar Allen Poe I found that the listed works by the writer were fewer in number compared to the book "The Complete Tales and Poems of Edgar Allen Poe" which I have currently in my possession. The list provided at the bottom of the wikipedia article provides 22 items accounting for both 'Tales' and 'Other works' and 14 items under 'Poetry'. The items in the aformentioned book amount to a total of 73 tales and 53 poems. There are three sections which divide the items. They are entitled; TALES, POEMS, and POEMS WRITTEN IN YOUTH.

I came by the book in one of the City of Swan Libraries located in Australia. The cover of the book depicts a piece of parchment with a human skull sitting on its upper-right corner. Also, at the bottom of the page, there are 3 interlocked keys, two of which are resting on the parchment, a third overlapping the point of a quill. The feathered part of the quill is lying on the lower-right corner of the parchment. To the left of the skull, starting at the upper-left corner of the parchment, a sentence reads; "Tales of terror and the supernatural, murder mysteries, science fiction, poetry and more in" with the books title residing directly beneath this. The illustration was done by Malcolm Chandler.

The back of the book provides the following text; (bold characters) "Classic stories and poems from the arch-priest of Gothic horror". Below this (normal characters) "The Fall of the House of Usher, The Murders in the Rue Morgue, The Pit and the Pendulum, The Gold-Bug - " and continuing on from the hyphen (smaller font size) "some of the most famous tales of terror, the most macabre detective stories ever written. Acknowledged master of suspense, Poe was also a poet and - as his stories of mesmerism and time travel prove - a pioneer of science fiction. In this collection, probing to the depths of the human psyche, Poe's haunted genius will chill and enthrall you."

The spine of the book provides the title and, situated beneath, is accompanied by another skull with a missing jaw. I believe enough visual description has been provided.

The following is a complete list of the tales and poems in the book: 

           TALES

1. The Unparalleled Adventure of One Hans Pfaall . . . . Page 3
2. The Gold-Bug . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 42
3. The Balloon-Hoax . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 71
4. Von Kempelen and His Discovery . . . . . . . . . . . Page 82
5. Mesmeric Revelation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 88
6. The Facts in the Case of M. Valdemar . . . . . . . . Page 96
7. The Thousand-and-Second Tale of Scheherazade . . . . Page 104
8. MS. Found in a bottle . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 118
9. A Descent into the Maelström . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 127
10. The Murder in the Rue Morgue . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 141
11. The Mystery of Marie Roget . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 169
12. The Purloined Letter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 208
13. The Black Cat . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 223
14. The Fall of the House of Usher . . . . . . . . . . . Page 231
15. The Pit and the Pendulum . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 246
16. The Premature Burial . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 258
17. The Masque of the Red Death . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 269
18. The Cask of Amontillado . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 274
19. The Imp of the Perverse . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 280
20. The Island of Fay . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 285
21. The Oval Portrait . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 290
22. The Assignation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 293
23. The Tell-Tale Heart . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 303
24. The System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Fether . . . Page 307
25. The Literary Life of Thingum Bom, Esq . . . . . . . Page 322
26. How to Write a Blackwood Article . . . . . . . . . . Page 338
27. A Predicament . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 346
28. Mystification . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 354
29. X-ing a Paragrab . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 361
30. Diddling . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 367
31. The Angel of the Odd . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 376
32. Mellonta Tauta . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 384
33. Loss of Breath . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 395
34. The Man that Was Used Up . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 405
35. The Business Man . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 413
36. Maelzel's Chess-Player . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 421
37. The Power of Words . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 440
38. The Colloquy of Monos and Una . . . . . . . . . . . Page 444
39. The Conversation of Eiros and Charmion . . . . . . . Page 452
40. Shadow-A Parable . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 457
41. Silence- A Fable . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 459
42. Philosophy of Furniture . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 462
43. A Tale of Jerusalem . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 467
44. The Sphinx . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 471
45. The Man of the Crowd . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 475
46. Never Bet the Devil Your Head . . . . . . . . . . . Page 482
47. "Thou Art the Man" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 490
48. Hop-Frog . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 502
49. Four Beasts in One: The Homo-Camelopard . . . . . . Page 510
50. Why the Little Frenchman Wears His Hand in a Sling . Page 517
51. Bon-Bon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 522
52. Some Words with a Mummy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 535
53. Review of Stephens' "Arabia Petræa" . . . . . . . . Page 549
54. Magazine-Writing--Peter Snook . . . . . . . . . . . Page 564
55. The Quacks of Helicon-A Satire . . . . . . . . . . . Page 574
56. Astoria . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 582
57. The Domain of Arnhei, or The Landscape Garden . . . Page 604
58. Landor's Cottage . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 616
59. William Wilson . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 626
60. Berenice . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 642
61. Eleonora . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 649
62. Ligeia . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 654
63. Morella . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 667
64. Metzengstien . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 672
65. A Tale of the Ragged Mountains . . . . . . . . . . . Page 679
66. The Spectacles . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 688
67. The Duc De L Omelette . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 708
68. The Oblong Box . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 711
69. King Pest . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 720
70. Three Sundays in a Week . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 730
71. The Devil in the Belfry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 736
72. Lionizing . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 743
73. Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym . . . . . . . . . . . Page 748

           POEMS

1. The Raven . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 943
2. Lenore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 946
3. Hymn . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 947
4. A Valentine . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 947
5. The Coliseum . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 948
6. To Helen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 949
7. To - - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 951
8. Ulalume . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 954
9. The Bells . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 957
10. An Enigma . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 957
11. Annabel Lee . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 959
12. To My Mother . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 959
13. The Haunted Palace . . . . . . . . . Page 960
14. The Conqueror Worm . . . . . . . . . Page 962
15. To F-S S.O-D . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 962
16. The One in Paradise . . . . . . . . Page 963
17. The Valley of Unrest . . . . . . . . Page 963
18. The City in the Sea . . . . . . . . Page 965
19. The Sleeper . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 966
20. Silence . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 967
21. A Dream Within a Dream . . . . . . . Page 967
22. Dream-Land . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 969
23. Eulalie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 969
24. Eldorado . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 970
25. Israfel . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 971
26. For Annie . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 972
27. To - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 975
28. Bridal Ballad . . . . . . . . . . . Page 975
29. To F- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 976
30. Scenes from "Politian" . . . . . . . Page 977

           POEMS WRITTEN IN YOUTH

31. Sonnet- To Science . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 992
32. Al Aaraaf . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 992
33. To the River - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1005
34. Tamerlane . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1005
35. To - . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1012
36. A Dream . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1012
37. Romance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1013
38. Fairy-Land . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1013
39. The Lake-To- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1014
40. Song . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1015
41. To M. L. S- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1016
42. Spirits of the Dead . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1016
43. To Helen . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1017
44. Evening Star . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1018
45. "The Happiest Day" . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1018
46. Imitation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1019
47. Hymn to Aristogeiton and Harmodius . . . . Page 1020 (Translation from Greek)
48. Dreams . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1020
49. "In Youth I Have Known One" . . . . . . . Page 1021
50. A Paean . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1023
51. To Isadore . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1024
52. Alone . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1026

I will allow myself to be slack and not indicate which of these poems and tales are already acknowledged in the wikipedia article. Some extra information; this edition first published as a Modern Library Edition by Random House, Inc., New York 1938. Published in Penguin Books 1982. This edition published by arrangement with Random House, Inc. 15 17 19 20 18 16 14. Printed in England by Clays Ltd, St Ives plc. Something has gone amiss with the formating; the "Page <number>'s" are out of alignment.

The rest I leave to you. Au revoir und auf wiedersehen.
-115.69.12.196 (talk) 21:17, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure who this "Edgar Allen Poe" fellow is (apparently he's the "arch-priest of Gothic horror"... ugh), but if you're curious about the writer this article is about, see Bibliography of Edgar Allan Poe for his list of works. --Midnightdreary (talk) 22:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

My narrow search field led me to believe that there was one article on Edgar Allen Poe, not several. Foolish of me to think the reknowned poet's works would elude recognition in the greatest encyclopedia ever assembled. From my misinformation arose my contribution. The works appear all to be listed and the list I typed has been of no use, apart from being a sleeping aid for myself. Having said this however, with some added detail, perhaps it could act as an extra source or reference of sorts.

If it is mentioned somewhere without my knowing I give an apology in advance and humbly request a point in the right direction. Alas, this method of enlightenment I find more appealing as apose to wandering around cyberspace. Allen v Allan. Verstanden. A quick slap on the head and we'll be on with deciding the fate of my hope-to-be contribution. 115.69.12.196 (talk) 15:47, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I now understand that modern anothologies are not to be listed whilst my book is just that. Apology due and thus given. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.69.12.196 (talk) 21:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Edgar a Necrophiliac

I heard from friends and a couple of history teachers of mine that Edgar Allan Poe was a Nerophiliac and that he kept his wife in the bed with him weeks after her death. I was wondering if anyone knew any facts pertaining to this or if it is a myth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.79.15.162 (talk) 10:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

The facts are these: this is ridiculously untrue. Tell your history teachers to learn history themselves before they attempt to teach it. --Midnightdreary (talk) 14:37, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Edgar Allan Poe's Death

How come there are so many different assumptions of his death? How was he found and around what time? I also wanted to know how he looked when they found him. --76.101.45.233 (talk) 21:06, 18 March 2010 (UTC)Kimberly

See Death of Edgar Allan Poe for a good survey of all that is known. --Midnightdreary (talk) 21:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Picture

Why isn't the featured picture of Edgar Allan Poe not on his very own article? I personally find that one nicer then the cropped picture.99.241.220.157 (talk) 18:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

That's a good point. I know it used to be the main image here but I'm not sure when it was changed. I'm going to go ahead and switch it back. --Midnightdreary (talk) 19:08, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 68.42.67.238, 30 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Change:

In Baltimore in 1835, he married Virginia Clemm, his 13-year-old cousin. In January 1845, Poe published his poem "The Raven" to instant success. His wife died of tuberculosis two years later.

To:

In Baltimore in 1835, he married Virginia Clemm, his 13-year-old cousin. In January 1845, Poe published his poem "The Raven" to instant success. His wife died of tuberculosis eleven years later.

Because: Virginia Eliza Clemm Poe died in 1847, not 1838, as would be the case if she died two years after her marriage to Poe.

68.42.67.238 (talk) 00:50, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —fetch·comms 01:17, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Memorial marker to Virginia Clemm, Maria Clemm, and Edgar Allan Poe in Baltimore, Maryland
Err, I think you may misunderstand the anon's request. There's no question of Virginia Eliza Clemm's death date -- nowhere does it imply it is 1837 (see her article) -- it's a question of wording. The anon sees the "two years later" as hinging on the 1835 marriage date, when in fact most readers will relate "two years later" to the date mentioned in the immediately preceding sentence, 1845 ("In January 1845, Poe published...") I don't think it's an ambiguous wording, but if we want, we can clarify to say "His wife died of tuberculosis in 1847." Antandrus (talk) 01:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
That's a strange assumption - that the "two years later" refers to two sentences prior, rather than the words just before. Even so, perceived ambiguity has been fixed. --Midnightdreary (talk) 03:39, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Ultima Thule

I've been thinking about the image used at the top of this article. It is the "Ultima Thule" of Poe (see: http://www.eapoe.org/geninfo/poepicud.htm). It is probably the most famous image of Mr. Poe but it is also generally regarded as the most unfair because it was captured shortly after his suicide attempt. He still looks ill-used in the image. I think the Osgood portrait of Poe would be a better image but it lacks the celebrity status that the "Ultima Thule" enjoys. So, in fairness to Poe and to encourage scholarship, I added the phrase "Ultima Thule" to the caption below the image. Hopefully this will provoke people to investigate the nature of the deguerrotype and also lead them to other portraits of the author. Just a thought. MorbidAnatomy (talk) 02:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

The image is a featured picture and may lose its recognized status if not on the appropriate page (i.e. this one). Further, it's his most famous image. Using a different one because of personal concerns might imply bias rather than neutrality. For the record, I see few sources that support that it is regarded as an unfair image; provide some? --Midnightdreary (talk) 03:41, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Rob, it appears that you didn't read my post. I did not suggest that we change the image. I said that there are better images of Poe but I am well aware of the fact that the Ultima Thule is the most famous and, therefore; the most appropriate for this article. So rather than change it, I added a caption which points to the nature of the image. Thereby, hopefully, encouraging people to make their own inquiries regarding the Ultima Thule and other images of Poe.

I'm not sure what you mean by "personal concerns." I have no vested interest ("a special concern or stake in maintaining or influencing a condition, arrangement, or action especially for selfish ends"--merriam-webster.com) in the image or the article. I was merely observing that with a few seconds of research we find that the Ultima Thule carries with it some unfortunate baggage (the physical effects of Poe's suicide attempt). It is not a personal issue--it is a scholastic one. Furthermore, regarding your request for a source which supports the opinion that the image is "unfair," please follow the link which I provided in my first post. I provide it here again for your convenience: http://www.eapoe.org/geninfo/poepicud.htm. Later. MorbidAnatomy (talk) 23:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, what I meant is that you had an issue with the image being a bad representation, as if that was a personal assessment. eapoe.org, as awesome as it is, is not a good source because it's run by one person who (obviously) has a pro-Poe bias. But, again, the featured picture concern is still overriding. --Midnightdreary (talk) 00:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I did read this a little too quickly. Ultimately, what you're basically saying here is, "Oh, hi, I changed the caption." Sounds good. ;) --Midnightdreary (talk) 00:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
I re-read some of my wording above and wanted to qualify a thing or two. When I suggest that eapoe.org has an obvious "pro-Poe" bias, I meant only that they are furthering a single subject/topic. I do not meant to suggest that they flub things up or sugar-coat Poe for the sake of cleaning him up, etc. I use the site quite often and it is, simply put, the greatest resource on Poe out there. Even so, a more removed source or, really, several sources that substantiate this concern, would be better in order to avoid "perceived" bias. --Midnightdreary (talk) 16:42, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Quarles

I just created a link here from Quarles, but is does not appear here or at The Raven. The name was given for the author of the "first authorised publication" of the poem, s:The American Review, Volume 1, February/The Raven. Any one have an idea where this should go, I imagine here although I don't think he used the name again. Maybe next to the mention of the poem? cygnis insignis 09:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that's a huge omission! I think it's best in the article for "The Raven" because the name is really only associated with that single work by Poe. I better find a source so I can incorporate it there (and maybe here too, of course). --Midnightdreary (talk) 12:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
I was afraid I'd forget so I've already incorporated the Quarles info into both this article and "The Raven". I also like how you added it to the Quarles disambig page so ignore my above comment... Do you think it works this way? --Midnightdreary (talk) 13:02, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Perfectly I think. Does Silverman give contemporary evidence for that connection, or is it an educated guess; perhaps he cites an earlier ref. Just curious, its seems obvious and quite in keeping with Poe's phony ref's and toying with authorship. cygnis insignis 14:23, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Silverman says it as if it is definitive; Dawn Sova's book makes it more of a guess (but she also incorrectly attaches the pseudonym to the publication in Willis's paper, so...). From Silverman: [Quarles was] "a continuation of Poe's practice of sometimes taking over the names of other poets." I'm not sure I agree there, but he clearly connects it to Francis Quarles. --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:38, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Much appreciated! I knocked up a stub on his son, John Quarles, and it reminded to chase this up. cygnis insignis 16:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Information adding

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Allan_Poe — here is very good article about Edgar and it would be good if someone translates some infromation in english — Taro-Gabunia (talk) 20:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

This English language version of the article is already a featured article... Is there something specific from the Spanish version that this one is missing? --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:37, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Just look at size of that Spanish article. It's bigger and is Featured article—Taro-Gabunia (talk) 10:32, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
So... nothing specific about it is better, it's just longer and in violation of recommended article length? This article is already a featured article, has a forked good article, and a forked featured list. --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:01, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Sources

I found:

WhisperToMe (talk) 07:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Not hard to find but the info is already added. See Poe Toaster. --Midnightdreary (talk) 12:15, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

list selection

Pardon if this seems like a trivial request, I like citations for lists. The selection probably resembles short lists given by good sources, but a few refs for the 'list of most notable ..." would give this some way of weighting inclusion. Anyone else have some thoughts on this? cygnis insignis 11:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

As it stands, this is not necessarily a list of "notable" works but just "selected." I think the shorter the list, the better, but that's just me. It's worth talking about though. --Midnightdreary (talk) 17:18, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Poe's father

I wrote a page about Poe's father, David Poe Jr. Can that be added as a link on this article, since it's currently a View Source only article? (BagInACampfire)

Done. Thank you for writing the new article! You may want to look at the manual of style to verify the naming (David Poe Jr., David Poe, Jr., or just David Poe) Antandrus (talk) 03:05, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
No, thank you! :-) The sources I used referred to him as David Poe, Jr. although I am not sure if that is correct. (BagInACampfire) —Preceding undated comment added 21:04, 15 March 2011 (UTC).
For a useless additional opinion, I'd keep the "Jr." "David Poe" could be a potential future article of its own, referring to Edgar's grandfather who was involved in the American Revolution. --Midnightdreary (talk) 22:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Ditto – what Midnightdreary said. David Poe is also an entertainer. – Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  13:37, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Were some of Poe´s published works, in fact ´self publish´

we are talking of a time long before Print-On-Demand technology, but I wanted to ask here, because I get the impression that some of the early works Poe published were self publish. is this true?

This is not the place for general discussion about the topic. But, to answer your question, see Tamerlane and Other Poems. --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Spanish translation

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I'm sorry. I thought I put the note about the translation 3 years ago... --Sürrell (talk) 17:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Maryland Sports Hall of Fame

I seem to recall a mention, possibly in The Sun, that Poe is a member of the Maryland Sports Hall of Fame, I guess for swimming. Despite having lived in Maryland for nearly thirty years, I cannot find a reference to this anywhere on the Web, and have never seen any memorabilia, such as a plaque or proclamation, referring to this. Can someone help? TIA. Bucinka (talk) 18:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

If no reference is found it's possibly not true. I've never heard of it. Probably not deserving of mention in this article. --Midnightdreary (talk) 19:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Here's a list of members, 1982-2009. A search for "Poe" yields "no matches found". (The UM Athletic Hall Of Fame was founded in 1982) – Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  17:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

You may be confusing Edgar with John P. Poe, Jr., who I believe is in the College Hall of fame for football (at Princeton). The poem "Poe's Run" is about John Poe. Or, I may be confusing John Poe with his brother Arthur (there were several of the Poe clan at Princeton, and they all seem to have been football heroes), but you get the point. (Edgar was athletic in his youth, but I do not think he did anything worthy of a sports hall of fame.) Outis001 (talk) 14:18, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

"Poe as a young man was decidedly athletic, a noted swimmer and the holder of a record for the broad jump of twenty-one feet, six inches." --T. O. Mabbott, The Selected Poetry and Prose of Edgar Allan Poe, The Modern Library, 1951. Introduction. Naaman Brown (talk) 20:35, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

scientific errors?

What exactly are scientific errors? Today's wrongs are tomorrow's rights. Better change this to Poe said blah while Newton, on the other hand, said bleh.82.171.167.118 (talk) 23:11, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Scientific error occurs either when reasoned conclusions are drawn from flawed data or flawed conclusions are drawn from objective data. Eureka, published in a day of comparatively primitive astronomical knowledge, encompasses and evidences both. To claim that Eureka is full of "scientific errors" is not a knock against Poe; it is an observation that Poe's "truth" is based on then-current information which, in time, became either convincingly supported or definitively contradicted to Poe's detriment. It is not appropriate to say that "Poe said this and Newton said that" because, despite any intuition, what they each said are statements based on physical evidence, not mere opinion. aruffo (talk) 00:30, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I fail to see how it is the place of an encyclopedia to, while looking backwards, cast into doubt the veracity of any claims as they pertain to historic understanding and contemporary information. Regardless of intent, the article as written, specifically; "Even so, Eureka is full of scientific errors." reads more as criticism and less as exposition. Accepting that a sentence of this novel sort is appropriate, wouldn't it be better to state "Even so, Eureka is full of what are now generally accepted to be scientific errors." or something of that nature. Perhaps it would be much better to not call into question the content of a particular work in an article dedicated to the author of said work? Regardless, I acknowledge that I must leave such decisions to those possessed of the authority to make them, but do consider making a better judgment that the one here evidenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.230.239.172 (talk) 03:03, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Education

I am loathe to tamper with an FA without impeccable sources to hand. I would just note that the school he attended in Stoke Newington appears to be given more context in Newington_Academy_for_Girls#Location_and_neighbours. Manor House was also known as Abney House, which was next door to and shared significant grounds with Fleetwood House, location of the girls' school founded a handful of years after Poe left. Stoke Newington was a village (not really a suburb in the modern sense), with a significant number of Quakers, and thus Poe would have been exposed to their anti-slavery ideas. BrainyBabe (talk) 00:30, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Poe and democracy

Although I appreciate the idea that some of Poe's works may be interpreted as anti-democratic, I am completely ignorant of any evidence, outside of literary interpretation, that suggests Poe supported such a philosophy. Although I don't disagree that the information one editor has (repeatedly) attempted to insert into this article is a legitimate source, it seems to me that such an assertion belongs not in an article about the man himself, but in an article about whichever of his writing(s) may be so interpreted. aruffo (talk) 16:34, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

We are discussing this on our respective talk pages as well. Feel free to join in. -Midnightdreary (talk) 17:38, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 June 2012

Dear Wikipedia, I am writing to request permission to make edits to this page. The information found is very reliable and trustworthy,however, my group and I would like to add more details in reference to Poe's life as a person and a writer. This is a part of a college level Englsih course assignment. We are not looking to make any personal sugguestions or add misinformation. We are only interested in added more detail to your information about Edgar Allan Poe. For example, x: "Poe parted ways with the Allans." This should be changed to y: Poe cut all ties with the Allans because his adopted father did not support his failure at West Point and his general lifestyle. If this change was made, the reader would be provided more useful information regarding Poe and his paternal relationship. As far as sources go, the information I am planning to use came from Gale Virtual Reference Library and Google Scholar. Listed below are their specific citations:

Belbanco, Andrew. Stories for Young People: Edgar Allan Poe. China: Sterling Publishing Co., Inc, 2006. 4-5. eBook. <http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=JBv-bocMY9IC&oi=fnd&pg=PA4&dq=Edgar Allan Poe&ots=Vw2hO4Y5j8&sig=vRgteYA4X-5nKzMhznZcCVmB0yY

Hoffman, Daniel. "Poe, Edgar Allan (1809-1849)." World Poets. 2. (2000): 323-331. Web. 12 Jun. 2012. <http://go.galegroup.com/ps/retrieve.do?sgHitCountType=None&sort=RELEVANCE&inPS=true&prodId=GVRL&userGroupName=viva_lwc_main&tabID=T003&searchId=R3&resultListType=RESULT_LIST&contentSegment=&searchType=BasicSearchForm¤tPosition=2&contentSet=GALE%7CCX1386400083&&docId=GALE%7CCX1386400083&docType=GALE&role=>. Thank you for your time and I hope you consider our request. Taylor Seamster and group PoePower (talk) 14:18, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I disagree with this proposed change; this makes us assume that John Allan disapproved of Poe's "general lifestyle", which we can not prove. It's also awkward: by saying "Poe call all ties" it implies that Poe made the decision, but saying Allan disapproved of him it implies that Allan made the decision.
Further, if I may add: If you're thinking of spending more time on Wikipedia on a class project, I'd recommend a different article - one that really needs help, and not an approved featured article like this one. --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. If you post the edit you want here, and changed the2nd part of the template at the top to |answered=yes}}, I will review it Mdann52 (talk) 15:42, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Also, this sounds like a Conflict of Interest Mdann52 (talk) 15:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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