Talk:EY-Parthenon

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GNG for EY-Parthenon[edit]

There have been 2 edits / requests to delete / redirect this article on account of WP:GNG. The other Big 4 accounting firms Deloitte and PwC also have independent strategy consulting brands Monitor Deloitte and Strategy& respectively, both having independent Wiki pages as both subsidiaries were from a notable acquisition. EY-Parthenon is in the exact same vein: derived from the acquisition of a tier 2 strategy consulting firm, to roll under the EY umbrella, but operates separately with all separate branding. As such, EY-P should get the same article treatment as Monitor and S&. The fact that the article, in today's state, is a bit light on information, should not change the fact that the article is on a sufficiently notable entity. EY's acquisition of EY-P is the newest, hence why it has the shortest history among EY-P, Monitor, and S&. CDB-Man (talk) 01:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have marked the article as reviewed, as I think it is a borderline pass of WP:NCORP. There is significant coverage of the merger in The Wall Street Journal ([1]) and the Financial Times ([2]). I also found a couple in-depth articles from the Australian Financial Review ([3][4]). Other articles, while not providing significant coverage of the consultancy, do contain in-depth commentary on some of its reports—see, e.g., Handelsblatt ([5]) and Reforma ([6]). Pinging Mccapra and Onel5969 in case they would like to comment. Notability is borderline, so I would not object to taking the article to AfD for further review. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 02:56, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Lord Bolingbroke. Question, mainly for my understanding (relatively new and unfamiliar with all of the WP policies: On the matter of... call it parallelism, Monitor Deloitte and Strategy& are similar acquisitions by EY's competitors. Could you clarify for my benefit why EY-P is a borderline pass whereas those 2 are not? Or perhaps, those 2 are also borderline passes? Deloitte bought out hte Monitor Group, which was also a boutique consultancy in the same vein and size as The Parthenon Group. In PwC's case, Strategy& was an acquisition of the strategy spinoff of Booz Allen Hamilton. CDB-Man (talk) 04:03, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The notability of companies is determined by coverage in reliable sources (see WP:NCORP); the factors that you described in your initial comment—like being merged with a notable company or competing with other notable companies—are not really relevant. Most of the sources currently in the article (like Consultancy.eu and PR Newswire) are not independent or do not provide significant coverage, so it is easy to see why other reviewers wanted to redirect. I think there is enough coverage to establish notability, but it took some digging to find high-quality sources besides the WSJ and FT articles about the merger. After briefly looking at Monitor Deloitte and Strategy&, it appears that sourcing is more plentiful for those two consultancies, probably due to their longer history. The sourcing is the salient factor in determining notability. Hopefully this answers your question. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 04:24, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]