Talk:Dimensional modeling

Notability

Does this page meet notability requirements?

86.135.9.51 (talk) 21:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

No. I added WP:PRODNOM, though I imagine it _will be_ contested. So, to bring the discussion to the talk page: Notability has not been contested in 2 and a half years. Article appears to serve interests of Kimball Group (later renamed DecisionWorks), while not addressing Verifiability and Neutral Point of View. Merging should not be done because primary sources are self published.

--FuturePrefect (talk) 17:38, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

• I will probably end up contesting this (if no-one else does)... I think I am seeing suitable reference(s) in Google scholar to the point where I would contest a prod ... but have WP:NPOV concerns. Its also getting a fair number of page hits. Ideal world I'd like to go through the article and address issues (if I am able) then dePROD. What I actually do may be a compromise. Cant really note which if any non-IP editors who may be interested.Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:37, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

I am by this point reasonably certain the topic passes notabilty and would not be taken to AfD on that basis if a thorough WP:BEFORE was performed, and I am somewhat minded the PROD nominator feels the same. However their is a lot of serious WP:NPOV in my opinion and other issues. What to do about it is the question? As it happens Connoly/Begg 9780132943277 (In a Pyrrho (RDBMS) context for which I winged a provo rejoin of Chi Lib for this morning & have it ordered from Crawley today as LeighPark is under emergency closure for automation) does Kimball’s Dimensional stuff in Ch. 32 ... a good bonus ... which is good notability and possibly would help with a neutral treatment ... just realised this as I am writing this!). My plan is:

• Tag dubious section ... I may or may lop them off completely.
• Keep the Dimensional modeling process as its pretty core to the section.
• Redo the lede to describe the methodology in a more neutral way an make it clear.

Because of timings I may need to use an under construction after the deprod which I will liky plan for July 4th. If anyone does sooner can they put an under construction template on please. Thankyou.

While the creator of the methodology has likely benefited from consultancy, training courses and publications it seems the basics of the techniques can be applied by anyone who follows the methodology.

Djm-leighpark (talk) 22:03, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Between Begg and the url above I am reasonably minded notability is met without searching further. I wish to review the Begg resource fully before improving the article, that would not arrive to me within the prod window so I have deprod'd but replaced with an under construction banner. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:22, 2 July 2018 (UTC) In good faith I thought I had mentioned the Moody/Kortink reference above but I hadn't ... it is now in the article.Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

NPOV and issues with specific sections

Dimension Normalization

A variety of things which a not quite right but in the end overall in a way they is not neutral. This section in more core to the article and simply needs to state how normalisation is approached in the context of this methodology.Djm-leighpark (talk) 22:03, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

I've just moved this section under a new section Design Method which strangely as an unintended side effect has slightly lessened improved its neutrality as the content of the section is now bounded within the dimensional modelling methodology.Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:25, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Dimensional Models, Hadoop, and Big Data

This section is not a core section to the article. It is inappropriate writing style ... e.g. we.... Useful and relevant information is lifted from the source (arguably slightly bloggy but of some quality by a recognised Oracle ACE), arguably perhaps with some slight inaccuracies however I believe is presented slightly non-neutrally with a bias to the Article.Djm-leighpark (talk) 22:03, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Potential other references

• http://neumann.hec.ca/sites/cours/6-060-00/MK_entreprise.pdf

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Article improvement

While I had intended to improve the Article using Connolly/Begg (6th edition) as a neutral source ... and I'd suggest any article improver considers it ... I am likely to take a break and will not likely have future access to that resource.

I've done the minimum necessary to help he article keep a balanced view and gone to section based tagging. I've also added strong notability references. I've shorted wat I was doing here so it is unfinished business.Djm-leighpark (talk) 20:45, 10 July 2018 (UTC)