Talk:David Roth (magician)

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On 27 May 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from David Roth to David Roth (magician). The result of the discussion was moved.

Recent revert of "objective" and "encyclopedic" edits[edit]

Recently, an editor removed basically everything in this article and left the info that 1) Roth does coin magic 2) he's produced some videos and book materials. 3) He won some awards at the Magic Castle. This was done, according to the edit summary, in order to make the article more "objective" and "encyclopedic".

Unfortunately, this removal of content (including the quote by Dai Vernon, one of the 20th century's most influential magicians), makes Roth seem like a garden-variety above-average magician rather than the living legend he is. The kind of content removed is not impossible to justify. It would take some work. But removing it, and essentially destroying any utility to this article, is not the answer. Those wiki-gnomes that find it easy to just tag this page and then come by and remove valuable content would do better to invest some elbow-grease for once and work on sourcing. --C S (talk) 23:52, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 27 May 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) Lennart97 (talk) 18:55, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

David Roth → David Roth (magician)
David Roth (disambiguation) → David Roth

– No primary topic. The writer receives just as many pageviews (I count 53% for the magician, and that includes a spike for his death), and searching "David Roth" on google primarily brings up the writer before the magician. And that's not counting David Lee Roth, though that's a PTM. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. The magician is indeed not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 22:52, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support the magician gets the most but views for the writer are close (18,429 v 15,141). Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:15, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. No clear primary topic for this name. The safest bet is to have the disambiguation page at the basename. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:16, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. There is no clear primary topic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:29, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Reports on his death[edit]

Does anyone have any RS that confirms his death? I would like to add some, but I could not find any, though his website does now have an "In Memoriam" section. Natg 19 (talk) 21:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]